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Old November 14th, 2012, 08:57 PM
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An email was just sent to Carnival Legend cruisers... several of the overseas dates for next year were cancelled.

It's all cruises dated 9/25/13, 10/7/13, 10/19/13, 10/31/13 & 11/12/13.


adding a 15-day Transatlantic (Dover to New York), then a "unique" 11-day Caribbean (New York to Tampa), then a 5-day Western Caribbean and then resuming the normal 7-day Western Caribbean sailings.
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Old November 14th, 2012, 09:42 PM
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I think they were right to do so....get it back to Caribbean sooner.
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Old November 15th, 2012, 12:22 AM
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Ever been to Iceland or Greenland?

ITINERARY

DAY DATE PORT ARRIVE DEPART
Wed Sep 25 London (Dover), England 5:00pm
Thu Sep 26 At Sea
Fri Sep 27 Dublin, Ireland 7:00am 8:00pm
Sat Sep 28 Glasgow (Greenock), Scotland 8:00am 7:00pm
Sun Sep 29 Belfast, Northern Ireland 7:00am 5:00pm
Mon Sep 30 At Sea
Tue Oct 1 Reykjavik, Iceland Noon 11:00pm
Wed Oct 2 At Sea
Thu Oct 3 At Sea
Fri Oct 4 Qaqortoq, Greenland 7:00am 5:00pm
Sat Oct 5 At Sea
Sun Oct 6 At Sea
Mon Oct 7 St. John's, NL, Canada 8:00am 4:00pm
Tue Oct 8 At Sea
Wed Oct 9 At Sea
Thu Oct 10 New York (Manhattan), NY 8:00am
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Old November 15th, 2012, 02:31 AM
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Presumably the lack of interest from the UK market has prompted the change, and I have to say that the only things I find surprising about this are that ..

a) Carnival are still going to trial one of their ships in the UK market when other Carnival Corp brands are doing the same routes for the same price, and the likes of NCL & RCL have already got a strong hold on the party end of the market
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b) that they chose Dover which isn't the best place to transport people to/from.

I am sure that they would have done better if they had gone for either the standard Southampton, as all crsuie pax are used to that journey, or the emerging markets of Liverpool with their new terminal, Newcastle for the untapped market there, Portsmouth as it's starting to develop as a cruise port, or Harwich for it's ease of access from London & the main airports. I would even suggest that Dublin or Belfast would be a good choice for an American product, as I don't think any cruiselines start their sailings from those ports.

I guess the departmental heads will see how the season goes, and then think again about 2014/5.

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In the past Carnival has used Dover, they they must have their reasons.

Carnival Sunshine will be in the Med so perhaps 2 Carnival ships in this economy was one too many. At least after the summer.
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Europe is going downhill economically, and Carnival Corp already has plenty of ships in Europe, no need to have an extra "all-American" ship over there.

There are a lot of recent indications that companies were counting on economic and political changes to happen before next summer, but it isn't turning out that way.

The eastern Med, especially, is only getting less attractive with Syria, the Gaza Strip and even Turkey getting embroiled in war. Libya and Egypt are pretty much off-limits as far as average Americans are concerned.

If things get really bad over there even the Balkan Peninsula (which has many Muslims north of Greece) could get dicey. That's the route to Venice.

Remember that Dan Hanrahan (former CEO Celebrity) basically got the hook because Celebrity had too many ships in Europe in 2011 and 2012. The Med is not what it used to be.
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For admitted selfish reasons I wish they had cancelled one more. I'm on the 9/1 cruise and the Transatlantic is following the 9/13 cruise. If they had cancelled that one I would have just stayed on board and cruised the TA home.

There are some cheap Med cruises right now for next season on the Sunshine. The Venice/Barcelona ones specifically.
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