Go Back   CruiseMates Cruise Community and Forums > Cruise Lines (Mainstream) > Carnival Cruise Lines
Register Forgot Password?

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #61 (permalink)  
Old August 22nd, 2013, 02:18 AM
zydecocruiser's Avatar
Senior Member
Admiral
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,969
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cruizer View Post
Ferries provide transportation for people and cars. A garbage scow provides transportation for garbage.
both are basically barges. both are insults.
Reply With Quote
  #62 (permalink)  
Old August 24th, 2013, 07:47 PM
Junior Member
Welcome Newcomer
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Manchester, UK
Posts: 2
Default

You quote "60 people died on a train accident in France just last month because the conductor fell asleep at the wheel."

I presume you are refering to the accident in Paris on July 13th this year, which makes your statement wrong in so many ways and gives people the totally wrong information.
The accident at Bretigny-sur-Orge station, outside Paris, resulting in the deaths of 6 people, was caused by a loose connecting plate in a junction switch in similar circumstances to the derailment at Potters Bar, North of London, England in 2002 where 7 people died. All this information can readily be verified on the internet.

John (cruising for over 10 years, and like the smaller ships best)
Reply With Quote
  #63 (permalink)  
Old August 24th, 2013, 08:24 PM
Mike M's Avatar
Administrator
Admiral
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: You're Looking At Me
Posts: 23,885
Default

They are referring to the Spanish train accident in July.

Take care,
Mike
__________________
Cruisemates Community Leader/Moderator

"There is a great difference between being well traveled and just having been to many places." ~Me

"Fear is the assassin of dreams." ~Me
Reply With Quote
  #64 (permalink)  
Old August 28th, 2013, 04:25 AM
zydecocruiser's Avatar
Senior Member
Admiral
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,969
Default

My next Carnival cruise sails in 16 days - on FRIDAY the 13th! No worries.
Reply With Quote
  #65 (permalink)  
Old August 28th, 2013, 01:46 PM
ToAdam12's Avatar
Member
Familiar Face
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 79
Send a message via AIM to ToAdam12
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by zydecocruiser View Post
my next carnival cruise sails in 16 days - on friday the 13th! No worries. Rofl
have fun!!!!!!!
__________________
CCL Conquest 7 Day Western 2013 (December)
CCL Imagination 4 Day Western 2013
CCL Glory 7 Day Western 2010
CCL Destiny 5 Day Eastern 2009
CCL Fascination 5 Day Western 2008
RCI Majsity Of The Seas 4 Day Eastern 2007
CCL Imagination 4 Day Western 2005
Reply With Quote
  #66 (permalink)  
Old August 28th, 2013, 02:05 PM
Paul Motter's Avatar
Administrator
Admiral
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: in my office!
Posts: 10,913
Send a message via AIM to Paul Motter
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike M View Post
They are referring to the Spanish train accident in July.

Take care,
Mike
See how quickly people forget? 60 people died, and he didn't even know what I was referring to. But if I said "30 people missing from a cruise ship that hit a rock" he would know immediately.
Reply With Quote
  #67 (permalink)  
Old August 28th, 2013, 02:08 PM
Aerogirl's Avatar
Senior Member
Admiral
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: A little south of insanity
Posts: 4,155
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Motter View Post
See how quickly people forget? 60 people died, and he didn't even know what I was referring to. But if I said "30 people missing from a cruise ship that hit a rock" he would know immediately.
Your so right Paul!
__________________
~Robin~



Need some cruise help?
Carnival - Fantasy 1998
RCCL - Majesty of the Sea 2000
Carnival - Inspiration 2009
Carnival - Freedom 2011
Carnival - Liberty 2013
Carnival- Breeze 2014
Reply With Quote
  #68 (permalink)  
Old August 28th, 2013, 02:23 PM
Paul Motter's Avatar
Administrator
Admiral
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: in my office!
Posts: 10,913
Send a message via AIM to Paul Motter
Default

I think the thing that I disagree with is what i would call "Monday Morning Quarterbacking."

It is very easy to say someone should have seen something coming in hindsight - but how many of us can say we have never been blindsided by an unexpected event?

I was in a car accident where somebody pulled out in front of us - it was actually following another car that had crossed the highway in front of us about 30 seconds earlier.

When the first car went I said "that was the stupidest maneuver I have ever seen a driver do in my entire life."

I was wrong, the stupidest was yet to come, the second car that pulled out directly in front of us which we hit while going 65 miles per hour.

I have seen and heard cruise reporters saying they "know" Carnival went slack on their ship maintenance. I asked them how they know and the answer was "look at how badly they handled the PR on the situation," and "Micky Arison tweeted from a basketball game during the Triumph crisis."

Yes, that was really bad handling of public relations, but how does that prove a completely separate division in Carnival slipped up and cheated on maintenance before the event. It doesn't. I personally disagree with people being negatively judgemental of the actions of others in one situation based on things they may have done in unaffiliated events. I call that prejudicial thinking.

John Heald said that his biggest fear was that the passengers on the ship would lose control. He did a great job of keeping them calm. Unfortunately, (as you said Mike) you cannot control what others decide to do, and the same was not true of the Triumph passengers. And after that Carnival took action by cutting off the alcohol, for example.

But there is no way anyone can predict everything a person will do. And based on what I heard, the famous "onion sandwich" situation only happened once. They adapted, but I don't think it is fair to expect people to be able to read minds and anticipate what people will do.
Reply With Quote
  #69 (permalink)  
Old August 29th, 2013, 09:56 AM
zydecocruiser's Avatar
Senior Member
Admiral
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,969
Default

I sometimes refer to those as Armchair Admirals.
Reply With Quote
  #70 (permalink)  
Old August 29th, 2013, 09:58 AM
zydecocruiser's Avatar
Senior Member
Admiral
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,969
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ToAdam12 View Post
have fun!!!!!!!

Thank you!
Reply With Quote
  #71 (permalink)  
Old August 29th, 2013, 11:12 AM
Aerogirl's Avatar
Senior Member
Admiral
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: A little south of insanity
Posts: 4,155
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Motter View Post



And based on what I heard, the famous "onion sandwich" situation only happened once.
From what I remember reading and I believe it was from some a journalist the famous onion sandwich was never served , they served sandwiches with minimal abouts of meat and cheese and the passengers were opening them and taking the meat & cheese leaving them with an onion sandwich.
I did post the artical here on the boards somewhere as she talked about what she witnessed .


By the way 99 days until I cruise Carnival and not a worry in site!
__________________
~Robin~



Need some cruise help?
Carnival - Fantasy 1998
RCCL - Majesty of the Sea 2000
Carnival - Inspiration 2009
Carnival - Freedom 2011
Carnival - Liberty 2013
Carnival- Breeze 2014
Reply With Quote
  #72 (permalink)  
Old August 29th, 2013, 11:45 AM
Junior Member
Welcome Newcomer
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 1
Default

Zydeco do you have any suggestions what to do in Cabo ?
Reply With Quote
  #73 (permalink)  
Old August 29th, 2013, 01:15 PM
ToAdam12's Avatar
Member
Familiar Face
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 79
Send a message via AIM to ToAdam12
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerogirl View Post
From what I remember reading and I believe it was from some a journalist the famous onion sandwich was never served , they served sandwiches with minimal abouts of meat and cheese and the passengers were opening them and taking the meat & cheese leaving them with an onion sandwich.
I did post the artical here on the boards somewhere as she talked about what she witnessed .


By the way 99 days until I cruise Carnival and not a worry in site!
I have notably said I wouldn't mind being on that ship for what they were compensated and knowing what I know from first hand accounts from people that were on board. I would totally take the 5 extra days.
__________________
CCL Conquest 7 Day Western 2013 (December)
CCL Imagination 4 Day Western 2013
CCL Glory 7 Day Western 2010
CCL Destiny 5 Day Eastern 2009
CCL Fascination 5 Day Western 2008
RCI Majsity Of The Seas 4 Day Eastern 2007
CCL Imagination 4 Day Western 2005
Reply With Quote
  #74 (permalink)  
Old August 29th, 2013, 07:09 PM
zydecocruiser's Avatar
Senior Member
Admiral
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,969
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Baby Huey View Post
Zydeco do you have any suggestions what to do in Cabo ?
Suggest you ask MrPete.
Reply With Quote
  #75 (permalink)  
Old August 29th, 2013, 07:12 PM
zydecocruiser's Avatar
Senior Member
Admiral
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,969
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerogirl View Post
From what I remember reading and I believe it was from some a journalist the famous onion sandwich was never served , they served sandwiches with minimal abouts of meat and cheese and the passengers were opening them and taking the meat & cheese leaving them with an onion sandwich.
I did post the artical here on the boards somewhere as she talked about what she witnessed .


By the way 99 days until I cruise Carnival and not a worry in site!
Wasn't there a journalist from this board on that ship?

Someone did write a "book" on the experience. I got the kindle edition free when it first came out.
Amazon.com: Triumph over Calamity: What Really Happened on the Carnival Triumph A Memoir (9781482588217): C. A. Peaden: Books
Reply With Quote
  #76 (permalink)  
Old August 29th, 2013, 07:18 PM
Dave Beers's Avatar
Moderator
Admiral
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Alabama
Posts: 1,752
Default

One of my moderators from cruisereviews (sister website to this one) was aboard and we interviewed him for the article on Cruisemates. You can read it here.
__________________
Dave
Forum Moderator
Reply With Quote
  #77 (permalink)  
Old August 29th, 2013, 10:32 PM
Aerogirl's Avatar
Senior Member
Admiral
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: A little south of insanity
Posts: 4,155
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by zydecocruiser View Post
Suggest you ask MrPete.
__________________
~Robin~



Need some cruise help?
Carnival - Fantasy 1998
RCCL - Majesty of the Sea 2000
Carnival - Inspiration 2009
Carnival - Freedom 2011
Carnival - Liberty 2013
Carnival- Breeze 2014
Reply With Quote
  #78 (permalink)  
Old September 2nd, 2013, 10:11 AM
Junior Member
Welcome Newcomer
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Worcester, Massachusetts
Posts: 1
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Motter View Post
I think the thing that I disagree with is what i would call "Monday Morning Quarterbacking."

It is very easy to say someone should have seen something coming in hindsight - but how many of us can say we have never been blindsided by an unexpected event?

I was in a car accident where somebody pulled out in front of us - it was actually following another car that had crossed the highway in front of us about 30 seconds earlier.

When the first car went I said "that was the stupidest maneuver I have ever seen a driver do in my entire life."

I was wrong, the stupidest was yet to come, the second car that pulled out directly in front of us which we hit while going 65 miles per hour.

I have seen and heard cruise reporters saying they "know" Carnival went slack on their ship maintenance. I asked them how they know and the answer was "look at how badly they handled the PR on the situation," and "Micky Arison tweeted from a basketball game during the Triumph crisis."

Yes, that was really bad handling of public relations, but how does that prove a completely separate division in Carnival slipped up and cheated on maintenance before the event. It doesn't. I personally disagree with people being negatively judgemental of the actions of others in one situation based on things they may have done in unaffiliated events. I call that prejudicial thinking.

John Heald said that his biggest fear was that the passengers on the ship would lose control. He did a great job of keeping them calm. Unfortunately, (as you said Mike) you cannot control what others decide to do, and the same was not true of the Triumph passengers. And after that Carnival took action by cutting off the alcohol, for example.

But there is no way anyone can predict everything a person will do. And based on what I heard, the famous "onion sandwich" situation only happened once. They adapted, but I don't think it is fair to expect people to be able to read minds and anticipate what people will do.
First to answer your origanal question, YES we are booked on the Freedom for Feb. 8 and can't wait.

As for the details from the Triumph incedent, most people only know what the mainstream media let them know. Which I learned quickly thru a friend who is a news director for a tv station in Dallas. Was coming from ABC affilates first in Houston then Moblie. And of course Disney news, Oppps ABC wouldn't have any hidden reasons for making the light on Carnival to be negitive.
Reply With Quote
  #79 (permalink)  
Old September 3rd, 2013, 03:12 AM
psumustang's Avatar
Junior Member
Familiar Face
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 10
Default

I also prefer Carnival to Royal Caribbean any would book a Carnival cruise in a heartbeat.
__________________
  • Imperial Majesty Ocean Breeze, Bahamas, June 1999
  • Norwegian Dawn, Eastern Caribbean, August 2002
  • Carnival Spirit, Alaska, August 2003
  • Scotia Prince, Nova Scotia, June 2004
  • Norwegian Pride of America, Hawaii, August 2005
  • Royal Caribbean Grandeur of the Seas, Western Caribbean, July 2010
  • Norwegian Sky, Bahamas, December 2010
  • Norwegian Gem, Bahamas, March 2011
  • Royal Caribbean Majesty of the Seas, Bahamas, October 2012
  • Royal Caribbean Majesty of the Seas, Bahamas, September 2013
Reply With Quote
  #80 (permalink)  
Old September 14th, 2013, 09:56 PM
Junior Member
Welcome Newcomer
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Burlington, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 7
Talking

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Motter View Post
You bet I would - the line has suffered so much ridiculously negative press lately where bad things affects well under 1 in 10,000 cruiser (or something like that) that the prices are dirt-cheap for the same quality of cruise they have always offered.

That's my opinion, anyway.

Some people may say Carnival has gone down hill (and some of those people may be travel agents who are not happy the line cutting some commissions - those agents have the right to say what they want - but if an agent steers you away from a Carnival cruise you want because of his commission, he is not doing you any favors).

As I look at pricing I generally see Carnival as the least expensive - and three years ago that was not always true.

Now - keep in mind Carnival is unique cruise style (all cruise lines have a unique style) - it is more "fun and frolic" oriented. But the food is good, and there are not so many onboard options to spend extra money (like a dozen alternative restaurants or cupcake shops), so you may spend less on board (or drink more alcohol).

But, yes, I would definitely take advantage of the current downturn in Carnival prices to take a Carnival cruise.

Agree or disagree?
VERY well said, I agree 100%!!!! I love Carnival, always have, always will!!!!
Reply With Quote
  #81 (permalink)  
Old September 15th, 2013, 10:11 AM
Senior Member
First Mate
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: SPRING, TX
Posts: 327
Exclamation

I definitely prefer RCCL to Carnival, but that may be an age thing. That being said, I have taken 10 Carnival cruises in the past three years and am going on another one in October of 2013. So far we have had no problems. It is just so convenient driving to Galveston in less than an hour and getting on a ship.
Reply With Quote
  #82 (permalink)  
Old September 23rd, 2013, 06:20 PM
NexCruise's Avatar
Junior Member
Familiar Face
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 17
Default

Totally agree Paul. Keep in mind other cruise lines have had their issues too. Royal Caribbean's Grandeur of the Seas (i believe that was the ship) also had problems recently as well as Celebrity's Millennium just last month.

Also if you remember, SilverSeas recently failed a health inspection. Keep in mind this is an all-suite luxury cruise ship.



Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Motter View Post
You bet I would - the line has suffered so much ridiculously negative press lately where bad things affects well under 1 in 10,000 cruiser (or something like that) that the prices are dirt-cheap for the same quality of cruise they have always offered.

That's my opinion, anyway.

Some people may say Carnival has gone down hill (and some of those people may be travel agents who are not happy the line cutting some commissions - those agents have the right to say what they want - but if an agent steers you away from a Carnival cruise you want because of his commission, he is not doing you any favors).

As I look at pricing I generally see Carnival as the least expensive - and three years ago that was not always true.

Now - keep in mind Carnival is unique cruise style (all cruise lines have a unique style) - it is more "fun and frolic" oriented. But the food is good, and there are not so many onboard options to spend extra money (like a dozen alternative restaurants or cupcake shops), so you may spend less on board (or drink more alcohol).

But, yes, I would definitely take advantage of the current downturn in Carnival prices to take a Carnival cruise.

Agree or disagree?
__________________
Adrian Teixeira
NexCruise
(305) 390.8266 Direct
(888) 543.1193 Toll Free
adrian@nexcruise.com

www.nexcruise.com/cruisemates


"Let us book your next cruise!"
Reply With Quote
  #83 (permalink)  
Old September 23rd, 2013, 07:00 PM
nighthawk65's Avatar
Senior Member
Cruise Maniac
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Mesa, Arizona
Posts: 116
Default

Just booked the Breeze for 9/27/14. Can't get the countdown clock to work though.
__________________
Read and post cruise reviews

Read and post cruise reviews

Read and post cruise reviews

Read and post cruise reviews


Need some cruise help?
LIBERTY - 5/2013
SPIRIT - 9/2012 (PLATINUM)
INSPIRATION - 9/2012 (B2B)
PARADISE - 4/2010
VALOR -3/2010
CARIBBEAN PRINCESS - 10/2009
SPLENDOR - 4/2009
VICTORY - 4/2008
GLORY - 11/2007
ELATION - 6/2007
PARADISE - 10/2006
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
carnival, cruise, deal, good, mates, miricle, spirit

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Need a cruise mate for 7 day carnival cruise leaving tampa april 24 kikitam00 Seeking Cruise Companion 1 May 11th, 2014 06:24 PM
5 day Carnival Fascination Cruise out of Jacksonville, FL - Seeking Cruise Mate edinburghlassie Seeking Cruise Companion 15 October 2nd, 2013 02:24 AM
Carnival Cancels Several Carnival Legend Cruise zydecocruiser Carnival Cruise Lines 6 November 15th, 2012 08:04 PM
Do you wish that you could purchase Carnival ship cruise items after your cruise? dhudd Carnival Cruise Lines 8 May 27th, 2011 12:40 PM
Labor Day cruise on Carnival Miricle with singles cruise.com aimsters Singles 1 June 7th, 2005 10:23 AM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


 

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:40 PM.
design by: Themes by Design

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.1