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Old March 31st, 2006, 03:20 PM
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Default Cirque on Summit--AWful!

I will post a very positive & glowing mini review of our Summit trip to Hawaii (3/12) very soon--but want to get the Cirque thing out of the way. This is just my opinion & with "art" it is hard to tell who thinks what...... I was expecting a changein the nightclub area from the way it used to be but was in utter shock when I walked into the Bar at the Edge of the earth to see the beautiful club area destroyed with outlandish decor..looked like a cave....lots of white rags/sheets hanging here & there, chairs covered in same type material & getting very dirty & "beds" set up near the windows where folks snoozed & slobbered on them during the bingo etc,. during the day. It all looked very unsanitary, closed in and not much like a dance club at all. We were there for a few events but it felt so claustrophobic that we really stayed away at nights enjoying other music venues..too bad cause I love to dance. .
The masked ball was held once ...It was a very well-attended event (which we skipped,) but the video show alot of folks enjoying themselves so I guess they have succeeded in that regard--the masks (very grotesque) were selling at a deep discount.... There is a cirque store with some bizare and soft porn items to purchase in addition to the masks & overpriced feathery things-- stuff like sensual massage gel, strip cirque game etc...not very approriate for family cruising& not very well visited...would rather have had a Hawaii store!
The Taste of Cirque in the theater was again VERY crowded & well-received by some but certainly not all! . IMHO It was awful. There were a few wonderful acrobats, trapeze artists etc but this was woven in between a prolonged skit of a man & woman who seemed to take turns abusing each other on the stage & interacting fairly aggressively with the audience by sittiing on people laps, coming on to them & even taking one persons handbag... There was simulated sex on stage (I think) & The abuse in my opinion was mainly directed at the woman making it an inappropriate skit for this century...I inquired & was told that the skits change for each cruise so maybe you may see something better! Hope they do not spread cirque to other ships as now I would avoid Connie & Summit--two great vessels--since I like to go to the club at night & this was not my idea of a nice venue.... I am sure others may disagree...but that's my take & last comment on CDS.
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Old March 31st, 2006, 06:56 PM
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I will post a very positive & glowing mini review of our Summit trip to Hawaii (3/12) very soon--but want to get the Cirque thing out of the way. This is just my opinion & with "art" it is hard to tell who thinks what...... I was expecting a changein the nightclub area from the way it used to be but was in utter shock when I walked into the Bar at the Edge of the earth to see the beautiful club area destroyed with outlandish decor..looked like a cave....lots of white rags/sheets hanging here & there, chairs covered in same type material & getting very dirty & "beds" set up near the windows where folks snoozed & slobbered on them during the bingo etc,. during the day. It all looked very unsanitary, closed in and not much like a dance club at all. We were there for a few events but it felt so claustrophobic that we really stayed away at nights enjoying other music venues..too bad cause I love to dance. .
The masked ball was held once ...It was a very well-attended event (which we skipped,) but the video show alot of folks enjoying themselves so I guess they have succeeded in that regard--the masks (very grotesque) were selling at a deep discount.... There is a cirque store with some bizare and soft porn items to purchase in addition to the masks & overpriced feathery things-- stuff like sensual massage gel, strip cirque game etc...not very approriate for family cruising& not very well visited...would rather have had a Hawaii store!
The Taste of Cirque in the theater was again VERY crowded & well-received by some but certainly not all! . IMHO It was awful. There were a few wonderful acrobats, trapeze artists etc but this was woven in between a prolonged skit of a man & woman who seemed to take turns abusing each other on the stage & interacting fairly aggressively with the audience by sittiing on people laps, coming on to them & even taking one persons handbag... There was simulated sex on stage (I think) & The abuse in my opinion was mainly directed at the woman making it an inappropriate skit for this century...I inquired & was told that the skits change for each cruise so maybe you may see something better! Hope they do not spread cirque to other ships as now I would avoid Connie & Summit--two great vessels--since I like to go to the club at night & this was not my idea of a nice venue.... I am sure others may disagree...but that's my take & last comment on CDS.


The response to the "Bar at the Edge of the Earth" was consistently and vehemently so negative that Celebrity Cruises and Cirque du Soleil restructured the program to replace the actors in the "Bar at the Edge of the Earth" with the "Taste of Cirque du Soleil" show in the theater. The previous repsonses to the show had been genuinely positive, though. Unfortunately, the awful "Bar at the Edge of the Earth" covers and draperies have not disappeared even though the room has reverted to its original function. The problem was that this year's brochures, which advertise the "Bar at the Edge of the Earth" quire prominently, were already in circulation when they restructured the program, so it's likely that the company's attorneys advised them to maintain the "Bar at the Edge of the Earth" for the diuration of the cruises listed in those brochures.

In particular, I'm really stunned to see your comments about "soft porn" in the Cirque du Soleil shop and off-color actions in the Taste of Cirque du Soleil show. I sincerely hope that you made specific comments about these items on your evaluation at the end of the cruise. Celebity Cruises does read and act upon your comments. Also, Celebrity Cruises seems to be very serious about entertaiment being suitable for all ages so I'm sure that the company's management will take comments about sexually suggestive elements in the Cirque du Soleil shows very seriously.

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Old April 1st, 2006, 07:15 PM
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Cirque du Soleil usually has something distracting the audience whilst set changes are made. I really find it hard to believe that such a class organisation as Cirque would use soft porn in their shows. The only one that does this is Zumanity in Vegas but it is widely advertised as being about Human Sexuality and as such warns showgoers of the content.

Is the Bar at the Edge of the Earth still in existence? I would definitely go on the Summit or Infinity to see this.

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Old April 1st, 2006, 11:25 PM
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Jenn,

Is the Bar at the Edge of the Earth still in existence?

The "Bar at the Edge of the Earth" decor (draperies, chair covers, post covers, etc.) are still in place aboard the original two vessels, GTS Constellation and GTS Summit, but the characters who changed the lighting and mood of the room, etc., are gone. The original program bombed so badly that Celebrity Cruises scuttled tentative plans to deploy the "Bar at the Edge of the Earth" on more ships and worked with Cirque du Soleil to reconfigure the program, replacing the original characters in the bar with half hour shows in the Celebrity Theater a couple evenings during the cruise. The space converted to the "Bar at the Edge of the Earth" has reverted to its original use as observation lounges in the daytime and a noghtclub and disco in the evening even though the "Bar at the Edge of the Earth" decor is stil there.

Celebrity has not made an official announcement as yet, but I suspect that the "Bar at the Edge of the Earth" decor is still in place only becasue the company had already distributed marketing brochures for 2006 that advertise the Bar at the Edge of the Earth, so corporate counsel probably advised the executives that they had to fulfill what they advertised. The decor probably will go away when the new brochures take effect.

would definitely go on the Summit or Infinity to see this.

Don't take a cruise for that. It really bombed in a big way.

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Old April 2nd, 2006, 11:11 AM
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I was on Summit and saw the "Taste of Cirque" show. The best adjective one could use to describe it would probably be pretentious, followed by boring, trite, sophomoric, and unimaginative. If you're hoping for the type of performance one usually sees in a Cirque event, forget about it! This performance was pure schlock. Actually, the best thing I saw the Cirque performers do was leave the ship.
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Hcat, I don't recall meeting you in person aboard Summit. I wish I had. I was at the sail away for the other site, seated near the middle table, on the cusp of the smoking/nonsmoking side of the patio. You are likely to have noticed me, though not knowing who I am. My wheels and my eccentric attributes are far more memorbale than my face.

My wife attended the Taste of Cirque in the Theater show without me. I knew from seeing their shows on HBO that Cirque is not my parituclar cup of tea. I agree that their skits, scenes, whatever, look a bit pretentious. But Chris reported that she enjoyed the show. And I did notice the hanging tarps in the Bar on karaoke nights [No--I did not sing] but it never occurred to me that they were Cirque sets.

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Sal7202,

I was on Summit and saw the "Taste of Cirque" show. The best adjective one could use to describe it would probably be pretentious, followed by boring, trite, sophomoric, and unimaginative. If you're hoping for the type of performance one usually sees in a Cirque event, forget about it! This performance was pure schlock. Actually, the best thing I saw the Cirque performers do was leave the ship.

If the show was that bad, I really do hope that you gave it the marks that it deserved and made clear adverse comments about it on the evaluation form. The evaluations to get serious attention from the company, especially when many passengers make similar comments.

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We were on Summit, 16-30 Sept, Alaska to LA. There were numerous complaints at that time. The night before arrival in LA, I spoke to the Cruise director, and he told me that CdeS was leaving the ship. Later, it seems that Celebrity decided to put them in the theater.

I guess that the awful decorations were never removed.

Too bad. The decoration (couches, tents, etc) really blockec the view when we visited Hubbard Glacier.

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i thought that the performance on the ship was unqiue and delightful. if you have not seen another cirque show then you might think that it was a little off. but that is the way that every cirque show it. also the two characters that come in the beginning are supposed to add to the show. they are supposed to be obnoioius and humerous.

as for the bar at the end of the earth i can see why u said that it might seem a little unsanitary. i saw many people sleeping and drooling all over the sofas. for the rest of the decor it was all very nice. it is something that would not see on any other ship and it adds to the xperience.
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Originally Posted by hcat
I will post a very positive & glowing mini review of our Summit trip to Hawaii (3/12) very soon--but want to get the Cirque thing out of the way. This is just my opinion & with "art" it is hard to tell who thinks what...... There was simulated sex on stage (I think) & The abuse in my opinion was mainly directed at the woman making it an inappropriate skit for this century...
Wow, two people can go the the same show and see entirely different things! I was also on this same cruise, and went to the Cirque show.

I never saw anything even close to simulated sex on stage. The clowning was somewhat heavy-handed, I agree, but it seemed to lampoon the man and the woman equally. The acrobatics were impressive. I went in with a bad attitude, expecting not to like the show, but I really enjoyed it.

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