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Hi. My 75 year old father is in declining health and has recently told me he wants to go on a cruise (August 2006), before he gets "too old". Neither of us has been on a cruise and he wants to go because he hears it's "nice". He's not much for sightseeing but does enjoy gambling. He likes the idea of "all inclusive" food on the ships.

I'd honestly rather be in Vegas or the mountains of Colorado, but I'm sure I would enjoy this and it will be good for him. Can someone please suggest a 3 or 4 night cruise on a nice ship that isnt too pricey? We would be traveling from Missouri, so airfare will basically be the same to any of the ports.

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Hi. My 75 year old father is in declining health and has recently told me he wants to go on a cruise (August 2006), before he gets "too old". Neither of us has been on a cruise and he wants to go because he hears it's "nice". He's not much for sightseeing but does enjoy gambling. He likes the idea of "all inclusive" food on the ships.

I'd honestly rather be in Vegas or the mountains of Colorado, but I'm sure I would enjoy this and it will be good for him. Can someone please suggest a 3 or 4 night cruise on a nice ship that isnt too pricey? We would be traveling from Missouri, so airfare will basically be the same to any of the ports.

Thanks for your help!
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Hi Todd,
I'm from California so I can't be to much help on the port front. But for my grandmom's 90 birthday she went on her first cruise it was a seven day to Mexico. She had an inside cabin with a shower not a tub. She had no problems getting in and out of the shower and the inside cabin had no light so she had the best sleep. We got her a wheelchair to help her go around the ship and ashore. There was one tender port and she was able to do it. But you may want a cruise won't have a tender port if he has moblity problems.

I have done the 4 day to Baja California Catalina and Ensendena Mexico. I loved Catalina island but Ensendena is a college drinking town and wouldn't be right for a 75 year old. Plus you tender in Catalina. I would not suggest that as a first cruise. I hope that helps.
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Hi. My 75 year old father is in declining health and has recently told me he wants to go on a cruise (August 2006), before he gets "too old". Neither of us has been on a cruise and he wants to go because he hears it's "nice". He's not much for sightseeing but does enjoy gambling. He likes the idea of "all inclusive" food on the ships.

I'd honestly rather be in Vegas or the mountains of Colorado, but I'm sure I would enjoy this and it will be good for him. Can someone please suggest a 3 or 4 night cruise on a nice ship that isnt too pricey? We would be traveling from Missouri, so airfare will basically be the same to any of the ports.


Welcome to the world of cruising! I suspect that you are in for a very pleasant surprise when you get aboardt he ship of your choice. With excellent cuisine and service (the main dining rooms of most cruise ships are "five star" restaurants), full buffets, a different show every night, and full sercice casinos and spas, you'll find the amenities of your beloved Las Vegas in a much more compact package.

That said, the very short cruises (less than a week or so) probably are not the best cruises on which to take your dad. In particular three-day to five-day cruises tend to be fairly wild party scenes, which is not exactly what most of our parents would enjoy. The ships that operate the short cruises also tend to be older vessels that have taken a beating due to the frequent turnover of passengers and the roudy partying, and they tend to show it.

On the positive side, cruising has become quite affordable. It's fairly easy to find a seven-night cruise for two on the "premium" lines, like Celebrity, for $750 per person or less if you are flexible as to when and where you go. That fare includes lodging, all meals (except specialty restaurants) and entertainment aboard ship, and transportation between the destinations on your cruise. In August 2006, Celebrity is showing the southbound Alaska cruise (departing from Seward on the 19th and ending in Vancouver on the 26th) for $799 per person. You'll need to add on your air fare and transfers, which are available through the cruise line. Cruise lines in the "mainstream" segment of the market, which might be closer to your personal style, would be significantly less expensive and just as inclusive as Celebrity.

I should also point out that August is still the peak season because many schools are still on summer break. A cruise to the Caribbean or to the Mexican Riviera in October or November, when ships start to return there, probably would be less expensive because it's not the peak season.

Your best bet is to find a reputable travel agent in your area who specializes in cruises, who could help you to find a nice cruise on a line that's a good match for your personal style at a reasonable price.

Have a great cruise, whatever you decide!

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Could not agree with Norm more!

Short cruises tend to be Port intensive...

A longer cruise is calmer...there's no rush to unpack or hurry like you would on a shorter cruise. Also...the passengers tend to be a little older. NOT OLD...just older than lets say the crowd on a short 3-4 day cruise.

We recently completed RCCI's MOS 4 day Baja cruise...had a great time...but it was FAST, and Furious...because we hit a port everyday. Also, the passengers were more collage types, now that's not a bad thing...but this type of cruise would not be one my Dad..who is 89 yrs old would enjoy. This type of cruise is more for the Family, young married, or single crowd...We enjoyed it, even though we are none of the above...but would NOT take my Dad or Mom...it would be too hectic for them.

Just like there are different vacations to suite every personality...there are different types of cruises and cruise ships to fit every personality.

I think taking Norm's suggestion and checking with a GOOD TA is a wise decision. They can not only give you the background of the ship, etc. but fix you up with the cruise line that will suite your personality and your Dads special needs! Some cruise lines market more towards the mature passenger...and as Norm said...it doesn't have to be expensive either!!!

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Hullo

I agree a 3 day cruise is not a good idea.

Check out a 7 day cruise that has a port day and then a day at sea,this way is not so trying, also a 7 day cruise is likely to be less of a party ship. Try to avoid school vacation times if you can.

Choose traditional dining, set table , will your father enjoy having a large table with say 4-6 other people or would he prefer to be just the two of you. This is important.

All ships have a casino, and there is also shows, and movies. as well as the TV in your cabin. As regards cabin, will he want to have one with a window, or would an inside cabin be acceptable. (inside is less expensive.)

By the way, I did have to smile at your description of "elderly" I am over 80 years YOUNG and I cruise SOLO, This year have done a 30 day Sth Pacific , a 10 day Carribbean, and have a 26 day Alaska/Panama Canal coming up. Next year at 81, I have a 28 day Canal/Hawaii cruise and in Aug 2007, I have a 31 day LA to Sydney booked. So you see cruising is possible after 50-60.
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All ships have a casino, and there is also shows, and movies. as well as the TV in your cabin. As regards cabin, will he want to have one with a window, or would an inside cabin be acceptable. (inside is less expensive.)
I just wanted to warn you the Hawaii cruises on NCL that don't go to fanning island will not have a open casino. You must be in international waters and those cruises on ships: Pride of America, Pride of Aloha and Pride of Hawaii do not go into international waters. However all others cruises do and the casino will be open on thoses cruises.
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Aviod the short cruises.

Out of Missouri?

Fly into Houston, try Royal Caribbean's Rhapsody of the Seas. Wonderf ship, great crew, good food, nice casino and good ports.

Pricing is good too!
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My ninety year old sister in law had always wanted to go on a cruise... and she on a Carnival ship as I write.. She is in an Assisted Living, uses a walker, but was going to have a wheel chair waiting for her.. Several of my nieces friends are taking their aged parents and one is bringng a relative to help care for their mother.. I say take him...get a wheelchair and let him gamble as long as he wants.. and eats as much as he can.. he will alway remmemver it.. BTW Parrot Pop amd I are both white heads..lol..seniors, but we keep going... If you can possibly get a handicapped cabin (Carival is not too good about allocating them) it will make it easier..
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Parrot Mom,

BTW Parrot Pop amd I are both white heads..lol..

... or, as (Boston radio talk show host) Howie Carr would say, "Q tips"...

BTW, growing older is a good thing. Those who have doubts should consider the alternative. The fact that we are growing older does not mean that we have to grow old, though -- and I can tell that you have not!

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Thanks for all the help and suggestions. Sorry about the "elderly" comment; where I come from ELDERLY means WISE and besides, you are only as "elderly" as you feel...

Unfortunately I couldnt get away from work for more than 5 days so I found fantastic rates on airfare and cruise out of Jacksonville for 4 nights. We're booked for August 18 and I can't wait. The more I hear, the more excited I am. I have a feeling I'll be booking about 4 of these a year

Thanks again!
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BTW Parrot Pop amd I are both white heads..lol..

... or, as (Boston radio talk show host) Howie Carr would say, "Q tips"...

BTW, growing older is a good thing. Those who have doubts should consider the alternative. The fact that we are growing older does not mean that we have to grow old, though -- and I can tell that you have not!

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Norm.....your true colors just came out.......Howie Carr...lol Q-tips...never heard of that before...Actually, your only as young as you feel. and age is only a number.. Parrot Pop and I don't hang around senior citizen centers that's for sure.. If the "man above" wants me... he/she is going to have to find me..lol Our 2007 cruise is going where the average cruiser hasn't been or won't get off the ship (Ive heard of that before)...Casablanca...and Tangier...I have places still to see in this world and I'm making a list....A cruise friend reminded me yesterday of advice she received about going to Cartegena, Colombia...DON'T., get off the ship..Six of us rented a driver/van and had a blast in the Old City and the Dungeons..
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Parrot Mom,

your true colors just came out.......Howie Carr...

What assumptions are you making that might or might not be valid?

One of the first rules of warfare is to know your enemy -- which is why professional sports teams spend large sums on armies of scouts who go watch the future opposition and report back on what other teams do and how they do it. So, too, in politics, strategists like Dick Morris and Karl Rove pay a lot of attention to the other side's public statements so they can figure out how to neutralize them or, better still, turn them against the other side.

The truth be told, though, Howie Carr's radio program is more entertainment than serious politics. Then again, entertainment is what plays smong the "blue collar" crowd....

lol Q-tips...never heard of that before...

I think that Howie Carr's use of the term actually was promoted by a white-haired woman with Marge Simpson's 'do who was so short that she could barely see over the dash. When you looked at the vehicle from the outside, all you saw in the window was the 'do -- which really did look like a jumbo "Q Tip"....

Actually, your only as young as you feel. and age is only a number.. Parrot Pop and I don't hang around senior citizen centers that's for sure.. If the "man above" wants me... he/she is going to have to find me..lol

Yes, I could tell -- and that's very healthy! So long as you maintain that youthful spirit, you probably will have many years of cruising ahead of you.

Our 2007 cruise is going where the average cruiser hasn't been or won't get off the ship (Ive heard of that before)...Casablanca...and Tangier...I have places still to see in this world and I'm making a list....

I'm with you on that! With Celebrity's new itineraries, I'm having a tough time deciding between the Eastern Mediterranean and Black Sea aboard MV Galaxy in the fall of 2007 or one of the trans-Pacific cruises aboard MV Mercury in the winter of 2007-2008. The final decision probably will depend upon what the price does between now and my next cruise. It's worth waiting to book aboard to get the shipboard credit.

A cruise friend reminded me yesterday of advice she received about going to Cartegena, Colombia...DON'T., get off the ship..Six of us rented a driver/van and had a blast in the Old City and the Dungeons..

Cartegena is definitely a place where one should exercise caution. There are guerrila units affiliated with Al Qaeda operating in Venezuela and Columbia from bases in the border region. They are heavily involved in the trade of illegal drugs, and their penetration in Columbia has moved toward the port city. This is the source of travel advisories from the Department of State for both countries, and the reason why all major cruise lines suspended calls there a few years ago. A couple cruise lines have announced plans to resume calls there in the 2007-2008 winter season based on the government apparently regaining control of the port, but it's likely that they will revise those schedules if the situation shows any signs of deterioration.

In any case, I have to say that I was not very impressed by the selection of shore excursions in Cartagena. On my cruise that called there, the line offered three shore excursions that were very similar. The difference? One excursion actually toured the fort, one drove past the fort, and one skipped the fort completely, with the time to visit or drive past the fort coming out of the time allocated for shopping. There was also a shopping excursion that did not visit any of the attractions. While I would not avoid an itinerary that includes Cartegena, I also would not choose a cruise because it includes that port of call.

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Yes, know your enemy, but Parrot Pop when he sees his "enemy" on tv starts tossing things.. All three of the Celebrity ships have great t/a itineraries..Galaxy, Century and the Millineum..The latest travel magazines..one has an article about Tangiers and the other about the Canary Islands.. Now, I just have to decide 14 or 17 days..and at the VO travel show in Boston... see what Celebrity will offer me.. I'm sure you will be there too Norm..
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Parrot Mom,

All three of the Celebrity ships have great t/a itineraries..Galaxy, Century and the Millineum..The latest travel magazines..one has an article about Tangiers and the other about the Canary Islands.. Now, I just have to decide 14 or 17 days..

I vote for "All Three." IIRC, they are sufficiently staggered....

... and at the VO travel show in Boston... see what Celebrity will offer me.. I'm sure you will be there too Norm..

No. I'm very happy with Garber Travel, so there's no way that I would book through Vacation Outlet.

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Yes... all three have great itineraries and I have both travel magazines... one with an article describiibing Tangiers as the new St. Moritz and the other talking about the Canary Islands.. My ownly concern is cruising t/a in December..Now as to V/O I used them several times a year until I finally had enough of "no service"..I resennt the fact I do all the homework and they get a commission and do not want to fight for what is ours..BUT at the January Travel show that V.O. has the cruise lines are there with many reps and sales managers... Last time I found a lovely young man from V/O from Virginia... and between what I had done my homework ( brought papers and prices with me).. they wheeled and dealed twisting our arm by tossing in all sorts of extras.. and then when they ran out..lol.. they called over the V.O. supervisor to sweeten the deal... Don't think I won't do that again..lol.. Go right to the source... the cruise company at the show.. The same as I now book my winter vacation directly with GWV.. this has really gotten off the topic.. We did do 17 days last trip.. with a pre-cruise we planned ourself in Barcelona....I just couldn'lt wait to go home.. It will probably be an eeny, meeny, mo type of selection Maybe if they give me a good price on the Millineum I might pick that... and if the Galaxy is going to be worked on before December I might consider that.. Here I am... sitting and waiting with my tickets for the Majesty to Bermuda...lol life is tough
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Parrot Mom,

My ownly concern is cruising t/a in December..

All of the ships returning to the Caribbean from the Mediterranean take routes that are pretty southerly (that is, close to the tropics) across the Atlantic, so weather is not much of a concern. In fact, it's actually less risky in December than in October because it's after, rather than during, hurricane season.

Now as to V/O I used them several times a year until I finally had enough of "no service"..I resennt the fact I do all the homework and they get a commission and do not want to fight for what is ours..BUT at the January Travel show that V.O. has the cruise lines are there with many reps and sales managers... Last time I found a lovely young man from V/O from Virginia... and between what I had done my homework ( brought papers and prices with me).. they wheeled and dealed twisting our arm by tossing in all sorts of extras.. and then when they ran out..lol.. they called over the V.O. supervisor to sweeten the deal... Don't think I won't do that again..lol.. Go right to the source... the cruise company at the show..

Any decent travel agency should be able to match Vacation Outlet's deals. I highly recommend hooking up with Garber Travel and seeing what their agents can do for you. One of Garber's offices probably is somewhere near your home if you live in the MetroWest area.

Incidentally, I have found Garber to be quite good about taking care of extras. By way of example, there's no surcharge for booking flights and hotels separately (not through the cruise line) in conjunction with a cruise.

It will probably be an eeny, meeny, mo type of selection

I usually see where I can get the better deal, taking cruise fares and air fares into account. The itinerary that's expensive one year is often less expensive another year.

Here I am... sitting and waiting with my tickets for the Majesty to Bermuda...

How do you like Norwegian Cruise Line compared to Celebirty Cruises?

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Actually knew Bernie Garber when!!!! When we booked our t/a cruise I can't remember if it was VO or Celebrity that clued me into booking certain seats with the deviation I willingly paid for, but except for the devation I had no extra charge.. How do I like NCL compared to C elebrity...of course there is no comparision... the entertainment on the larger NCL with the Jean Ryan Troupe are wonderful... Except for the guest artists and the E.D. we were underimpressed with the ships entertainment on Celebrity.. But, if your talking about the Majesty it/s a whole different ballgame...I love the crew..as we did with Celebrity.. the food certainly is a little step up...but i don't go on the Majesty for the cruising experience.. We go on it to get to Bermuda from Boston... Right now the Pearl, the Jewel and the new Gem.. are far too big for a true cruising experience.. Parrot Pop says there is news about a Princess ship with problems..
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