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Old July 7th, 2009, 09:26 PM
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Does anyone know if Celebrity has plans for Hawaii anytime in the future?
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Wouldn't that be nice! And, it would be even nicer if they could go back out of SF on top of it! But, that won't be happening too soon with the new laws stating they have to port in a foreign port along the way. Maybe they could figure out a way to just stop in Ensenada without it extending the cruise by too long. I would love all those sea days at both ends myself!
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I do hope that they cruise to Hawaii again. We did Hawiian cruise on the Infinity and we loved it. It's something that we would certainly do again.

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We would have really enjoyed doing that cruise Manuel, but never did. I lived on Maui for a couple of years and had never sailed at that time. The cruise ship would dock in Waiehu on Tuesdays. I woul sit out there and watch the old town come to life!

I would love to sail there now. I hope to do this on =X= someday!

So why is there that law about stoping in a forein country? I'm curious about the logic behind that? Anyone know?
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Not for sure but I read once that it had something to do with Congress not wanting foreign flagged vessels to be able to transport passengers between U.S. ports. Maybe the impact on Cruise Industry is just one of those unintended consequences that our lawmakers never seem to be able to fully grasp.

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The original intent of the Passenger Vessel Services Act, passed in 1886, was to protect U.S. ship builders and American jobs. However, with the exception of a few small companies that have built a couple dozen small cruise ships (under 200 passengers) and a few casino boats, there is no passenger-ship industry in the United States. There hasn't been a large cruise ship built here since 1956, mostly because shipyards in Germany, Finland, France and Italy have the experience and, according to studies, do it for one-half to two-thirds the cost. (Oddly, there are fewer mysterious cost overruns and delays overseas that seem to be the trademark of building really big things in the United States.)

Even Norwegian Cruise Line's U.S.-registered ships were not built in the United States, typically a requirement of being U.S.-flagged. One hull and some pieces from two ships were built in Mississippi and, when American Classic Voyages went bankrupt, Norwegian bought the pieces for a song. The government got back some of the huge subsidies it had poured into the project, and allowed NCL to register the ship under the U.S. flag even though both ships (and a third that was converted) were assembled in Germany.
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Hopefully now Celebrity has a few more ships they might pick up Hawaii again. Princess, HAL, Carnival still do either the Hawaii return LA or the one ways from California or Vancouver. Keep saying we're going to do the one way but haven't yet. We have done the 7 day NCL around the islands which was great.
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Trackypup, my friend did the NCL Hawaii too.

We've thought about doing the Vancouver to HI...I think I would prefer that over Southern California. I hope that X does pick it up again with extra ships, too.
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We would have really enjoyed doing that cruise Manuel, but never did. I lived on Maui for a couple of years and had never sailed at that time. The cruise ship would dock in Waiehu on Tuesdays. I woul sit out there and watch the old town come to life!

I would love to sail there now. I hope to do this on =X= someday!

So why is there that law about stoping in a forein country? I'm curious about the logic behind that? Anyone know?
Here's a great explanation:

http://www.jonesactquestions.com/hom...penalties.html
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Trackypup, my friend did the NCL Hawaii too.

We've thought about doing the Vancouver to HI...I think I would prefer that over Southern California. I hope that X does pick it up again with extra ships, too.
I think we're going to book Royal Princess Tahiti to Hawaii in 2011. That way we can skip the 5 days to the mainland.
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Incredible. My partner has always wanted to do that cruise. How many days?

Honestly, I would like to give Princess another try. I've heard many good things about it, before our last cruise but was so disappointed. There are a lot of good itineraries.
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Incredible. My partner has always wanted to do that cruise. How many days?

Honestly, I would like to give Princess another try. I've heard many good things about it, before our last cruise but was so disappointed. There are a lot of good itineraries.
You can do either 12 days Tahiti to Hawaii or 22 Tahiti to Vancouver. With the 22 days you just repeat the same Hawaiian Islands so I think we'd just do the 12.
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Wouldn't that be nice! And, it would be even nicer if they could go back out of SF on top of it! But, that won't be happening too soon with the new laws stating they have to port in a foreign port along the way. Maybe they could figure out a way to just stop in Ensenada without it extending the cruise by too long. I would love all those sea days at both ends myself!
Did Senator Inouye's rider to require ships of foreign flag to remain in foreign ports for at least twenty-four hours actually become law? I thought that the Senate Commerce Committee was going to scuttle it....

For those who don't know, Senator Inouye, who has long promoted Hawai'ian tourism, introduced this rider because Norwegian Cruise Line (NCL) approached him with complaints that cruises operating from the west coast were taking away its "NCL America" interisland business and thus making the "NCL America" operation unprofitable. In fact, NCL had already reflagged a couple ships due to insufficient traffic on its "NCL America" cruises within the Hawai'ian Islands.

Now, reality is reality. The reality, in this situation, is that major cruise lines can't take the chance that a rider like this might become law and force them to rearrange itineraries on very short notice. Thus, they had to take the precaution of rearranging their itineraries preemptively. There also might have been an element of "Okay, let's show the Senator what his proposal will do!" In any case, we'll see how many of the passengers who would have taken Celebrity or Princess cruises to Hawai'i book cruises on "NCL America" instead. Realistically, I doubt that it will be very many -- which mean that tens of thousands fewer tourists per year will visit Hawai'i. [sarcasm] And this undoubtedly is exactly what Senator Inouye and the various boards of tourism in Hawai'i envision.[/sarcasm] Realistically, I suspect that Senator Inouye will be appologizing personally to the other cruise lines in a year or two and begging them to return to his state.

But actually, there's another very interesting possibility. It would be quite reasonable for ships that opeate cruises to Alaska in the summer to operate a few cruises to Hawai'i round trip from Vancouver before and after the Alaska cruise season -- basically, in April and early May and in September and early October. The Port of Vancouver undoubtedly could give ships operating these itineraries very favorable rates because they would be using Vancouver's cruise terminals at a time of low demand. A port of call in Victoria on either the second day or next to last day of the cruise should be sufficient to satisfy the requirement that the ship be in a foreign port for more than twenty-four hours, if it applies to cruises operating from a foreign port.

BTW, note that Senator Inouye's proposal also could affect cruises to Alaska that operate round trip from Seattle. Those itineraries, however, have a much easier solution. They can call in Vancouver, Victoria, and/or Prince Rupert to meet the requirements for foreign ports of call exceeding twenty-four hours.

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