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Kuki January 25th, 2011 03:08 PM

Is there a new "Formal" in cruising?
 
Seems the last few years the cruise world has a "new formal".

Do you still pack tuxedos and gowns, or suits and fancy dresses ?

usha January 25th, 2011 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Kuki (Post 1346231)
Seems the last few years the cruise world has a "new formal".

Do you still pack tuxedos and gowns, or suits and fancy dresses ?

We still pack tuxedos & gowns.:D

johnthed0g January 25th, 2011 03:30 PM

If the cruise line asks for formal & describes what they require we take it, or if we don't have room we buy it (semi formal jacket Azura!)

sptrout January 25th, 2011 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kuki (Post 1346231)
Do you still pack tuxedos....

I have a tux, but it has "streched" (yea!!) over the past few years so I can no longer use it. Last year while on the Solstice, I rented a tux, but not all that many folks wear them. Going to Alaska in May; still undecided about renting a tux. Renting a tux does eliminate having to pack a suite/shirts/ties, so I will flip a coin in a few weeks.

I do believe that the formal days are soon to be a memory.....fine with me.

johnthed0g January 25th, 2011 04:54 PM

I have never really seen why people are against formal nights, like any other evening but with different clothes.

anniegb January 25th, 2011 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sptrout (Post 1346274)
I have a tux, but it has "streched" (yea!!) over the past few years so I can no longer use it. Last year while on the Solstice, I rented a tux, but not all that many folks wear them. Going to Alaska in May; still undecided about renting a tux. Renting a tux does eliminate having to pack a suite/shirts/ties, so I will flip a coin in a few weeks.

I do believe that the formal days are soon to be a memory.....fine with me.

Based on my HAL Alaska cruise, approx 10% men wore tux.

Annie

johnthed0g January 25th, 2011 05:19 PM

Based on my recent Azura cruise 95% of men wore Tux /DJ & there were about 8 formals.

Trackypup January 25th, 2011 05:32 PM

Other than Alaska in 2009 in which we left from our home port of Vancouver, the last time we packed formals was I think 2006 on the Sea Princess. And we cruise minimum once a year if not twice.

Hubby owns a tux and i have tons of formal, we just don't feel like it on vacation so we find alternative dining.

anniegb January 25th, 2011 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by johnthed0g (Post 1346284)
Based on my recent Azura cruise 95% of men wore Tux /DJ & there were about 8 formals.

British line with largely English passengers? :)

Annie

anniegb January 25th, 2011 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by johnthed0g (Post 1346278)
I have never really seen why people are against formal nights, like any other evening but with different clothes.

Maybe they don't enjoy dressing up? :) Ask them why.

Annie

Trip January 25th, 2011 05:48 PM

"Formal" night in general, is not the corseted laced up gown anymore for the ladies,or a tux for the man..but a nice suit,and dressy seperates for the ladies...These we bring...to those who don't I would ask, would you go into the dining room on formal night dressed casually?

Packing in general has changed due to the rigid restrictions and fees.

johnthed0g January 25th, 2011 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by anniegb (Post 1346290)
British line with largely English passengers? :)

Annie

Yes..probably 99%.

johnthed0g January 25th, 2011 05:55 PM

Don't understand the problem with putting on a Tux.

anniegb January 25th, 2011 06:02 PM

I can't answer that.

I dress at dinner a la Trip - but I don't call that formal - I call that smart casual.

I think maybe Europeans have a different definition of Formal?

On my HAL cruise, I was invited to the Capt Cocktail party, don't know why, dressed a la Trip and stood out like a sore thumb because I was overdressed! After a few cocktails, I couldn't care less but I felt really uneasy. So I am really confused now.

Annie

anniegb January 25th, 2011 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by johnthed0g (Post 1346294)
Yes..probably 99%.

There is your answer.

dkjretired January 25th, 2011 06:07 PM

Formal night is becoming a thing of the past. I have read on numerous boards that cruisers are constantly trying to avoid formal nights at all costs. Celebrity has not made formal nights real customer friendly since for the most part lately they have not enforced their own rules for dress. The dress code for men on formal night is Tux/Dinner Jacket or Suit. More and more men are now opting for Sport jackets and very few on all cruises no matter the length or location are in tuxes. Also, they have within the past few months changed the rules so that all specialty restaurants are now "Smart Casual" every night. Adding to that is the change which now allows jeans into the the MDR. I think it is very telling when people are opting to eat in their room rather than go to formal night in the MDR.


Years ago, Celebrity requested that you remain dressed up for the entire evening in all venues.It seems now that the only place you are requested to dress formal on formal night is the dining room. The theater and all other venues are also "Smart Casual" as per Celebritys rules.

Just as in society we have relaxed dress standards (go to a funeral or a wedding lately) the cruise line standards are changing. Celebrity will be Smart Casual everynight, very soon.

The above does not express an opinion of how I feel about formal nights. I am only passing on what I have observed on board ship with two Celebrity cruises in the last year and also reading thousands of posts on various boards.

Kuki January 25th, 2011 06:18 PM

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Packingin general has changed due to the rigid restrictions and fees.
I think the trend away from formal dress came first. The cruise lines (or passengers depending on your position) just "got lucky" when the airlines started instituting baggage fees.

johnthed0g January 25th, 2011 06:32 PM

Still don't see what it is that people find so distasteful about dressing up. Surely people wash & shave before dinner, do hair, change clothes too.. so why not put on something more than a tee shirt & jeans? Or maybe some don't do this & want to just go right in to eat?
The main problem I have is cruise lines rules, why on earth have a formal dress code that only applies to the MDR & even then nobody respects it but nothing is said...waste of time.
Respect, enforce, uphold or drop the whole thing, one or the other, the worst option is a rule that nobody respects because it is ignored by both sides.

dkjretired January 25th, 2011 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by johnthed0g (Post 1346306)
Still don't see what it is that people find so distasteful about dressing up. Surely people wash & shave before dinner, do hair, change clothes too.. so why not put on something more than a tee shirt & jeans? Or maybe some don't do this & want to just go right in to eat?
The main problem I have is cruise lines rules, why on earth have a formal dress code that only applies to the MDR & even then nobody respects it but nothing is said...waste of time.
Respect, enforce, uphold or drop the whole thing, one or the other, the worst option is a rule that nobody respects because it is ignored by both sides.

Agree, I've been saying that for years, either enforce your rules or get rid of them. Now they have everyone confused with their X the rules marketing campaign....

Lakers Fan January 25th, 2011 08:52 PM

I took a black suit and 3 different colored dress shirts ,Mrs.Henry 43 brought dresses .

Trackypup January 25th, 2011 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Trip (Post 1346293)
"Formal" night in general, is not the corseted laced up gown anymore for the ladies,or a tux for the man..but a nice suit,and dressy seperates for the ladies...These we bring...to those who don't I would ask, would you go into the dining room on formal night dressed casually?

Packing in general has changed due to the rigid restrictions and fees.

We ended up in the dining room one formal night on our Greek island cruise. When packing we had no intention of it but we were invited to join 3 other couples. I was dressed fine, I had the black slinky pants and a sparkly jacket, but hubby only had a sports jacket, shirt and tie. It felt very weird. Formal nights we usually grab a pizza and a bottle of wine for our deck.

Trackypup January 25th, 2011 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Henry43 (Post 1346326)
I took a black suit and 3 different colored dress shirts ,Mrs.Henry 43 brought dresses .

Bloody hell, I first read that as 43 dresses :)

Skipper's Mom January 25th, 2011 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Trackypup (Post 1346330)
Bloody hell, I first read that as 43 dresses :)

Me, too. I thought that was funny!

Lakers Fan January 25th, 2011 09:35 PM

No ,thats her name

anniegb January 26th, 2011 04:29 AM

On his Azura cruise, JTD met a cruiser who packed 33 dresses!

:)

Annie

Rev22:17 January 26th, 2011 05:48 PM

Kuki,

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Originally Posted by You (Post 1346231)
Seems the last few years the cruise world has a "new formal".

No, there's no "new formal," but several cruise lines have abandoned "formal" (either officially, as a matter of stated policy, or de facto, by failure to enforce the prescribed standards) in favor of something else.

And in reality, the so-called "formal" evenings on most cruise lines really have been "modified formal" evenings, meaning that a dark business suit with a standard dress shirt and necktie is acceptable attire for gents and a cocktail dress is acceptable attire for ladies, for about four decades now.

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Originally Posted by You
Do you still pack tuxedos and gowns, or suits and fancy dresses ?

If the cruise line advertises "formal" evenings, as Celebrity does, I bring my white dinner jacket outfit if the cruise is in the summer or in the tropical or subtropical regions or my tuxedo otherwise.

My experience on Celebrity, mostly on cruises of ten nights or longer, is that nearly all of the passengers do wear the prescribed attire for the "formal" evening. On my most recent cruise (last October-November in the Caribbean), I overheard a couple (apparently quite embarrassed) passengers remark that they did not expect the "formal" evenings to be quite so dressy.

That said, I do understand that the four-night and five-night cruises in the Caribbean draw a very different crowd. I have heard from several sources that the dress code typically goes out the window on those sailings.

As best I can tell, seven night sailings in the Caribbean and Alaska seem to get about 80% conformance with the dress codes and about 20% who (1) get bad information from their travel agents, (2) expect Celebrity to be just like Carnival, or (3) just don't get it.

Norm.

johnthed0g January 26th, 2011 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by anniegb (Post 1346387)
On his Azura cruise, JTD met a cruiser who packed 33 dresses!

:)

Annie

True... she was on our table, I noticed & thought it would be good to mention that she appeared have a different dress every night (28 night cruise) ''did you bring 28 dresses?'' I said...she said ''no I brought 33 in case I need spares!" Every night her & her husband looked absolutely immaculate, we met them at the airport & they even looked wonderful for the flight home, really good company too.

Trackypup January 26th, 2011 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by johnthed0g (Post 1346637)
True... she was on our table, I noticed & thought it would be good to mention that she appeared have a different dress every night (28 night cruise) ''did you bring 28 dresses?'' I said...she said ''no I brought 33 in case I need spares!" Every night her & her husband looked absolutely immaculate, we met them at the airport & they even looked wonderful for the flight home, really good company too.

I remember you posting that! Wow. Did you happen to get to see the size of their luggage? I'm pretty sure I don't even own 33 dresses :)

johnthed0g January 26th, 2011 06:20 PM

It did lead to an interesting discussion on luggage!! We were told in no uncertain terms that it was 23kg's & that was it, no more, no excess, nothing, anything over you can't take....they just rocked up to the airport & said ''we are taking it so there'' & they paid extra 200 +

anniegb January 26th, 2011 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Trackypup (Post 1346642)
I remember you posting that! Wow. Did you happen to get to see the size of their luggage? I'm pretty sure I don't even own 33 dresses :)

I said that too and added that I only expected members of the Royal Family owned 33 dresses.

On a World cruise, can we guess how many dresses she would take?

:)

Annie


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