I just read this on Yahoo. What's wrong with our government endorsing religion? That's how our country was founded. What makes those judges any smarter than the 1954 congressmen? am really angry about this.
(AP) - For the first time ever, a federal appeals court Wednesday declared the Pledge of Allegiance unconstitutional because of the words "under God" added by Congress in 1954. The ruling, if allowed to stand, means schoolchildren can no longer recite the pledge, at least in the nine Western states covered by the court. In a 2-1 decision, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said the phrase amounts to a government endorsement of religion.
I just read that! What a crock! http://www.cnn.com has a full article.
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The recitation that ours is a nation 'under God' is not a mere acknowledgement that many Americans believe in a deity. Nor is it merely descriptive of the undeniable historical significance of religion in the founding of the Republic. Rather, the phrase 'one nation under God' in the context of the pledge is normative," the court said in its decision.
"To recite the pledge is not to describe the United States; instead it is to swear allegiance to the values for which the flag stands: unity, indivisibility, liberty, justice and -- since 1954 -- monotheism."
it upsets me too! I just thought it was a rule that you couldn't preach to the children. we have a thing at our school where at lunch everyday anybody can join in and we hold hands and pray in a big circle. the school said it's not against policy unless we are causing a big disturbance. they even have a classroom every morning that you can go in befor classes and prey even with teachers. if they allow that they should allow the pledge of allegiance. my band also has a prayer before every football game to make sure that there is a safe game. we have an election every year for a chaplain just for that purpose. are they going to stop praying before games and saying the pledge of allegiance and playing the national anthem. they didn't have a problem with it during the crisis of september 11 attacks why now? this really upsets me. we had a man that once stood by our school giving out mini bibles and the principal got mad ran him off and tried to take up every ones bible.how stupid.
In the overall scheme of things, I just say "so what?" I don't want to remove the words from the allegiance,but as Lisa said, "JUST DON'T SAY THE WORDS!" If they want to remove the words are the children going to grow up to be communists?
I have more faith in our children that they are being parented to adulthood without this decison affecting them.
Absolutely disgusting ... I'm so tired of these stupid liberal judges. My local CBS television station is running a poll - 95% say yes we should say "under God". These judges represent only 9 western states (but even that is too many) ... and it will not be enforced immediately - giving the government a chance to defend our right to say it ... maybe all the way to the Supreme Court. We were founded as a nation under God. Let's pray to God that the atheists won't win again!!!
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Re: What a stupid decision
This separation of Church and State comes from a LETTER written by Thomas Jefferson and is only vaguely referred to in the constitution. When mentioned in the constitution, it says that government may not ESTABLISH a religion (like the Church of England) - nowhere does it say that religion is not a part of our government or our heritage. Do atheists and agnostics use money? It state on there In God We Trust. That does not establish a religion, it merely reinforces the fact that our country was established for the freedom OF religion.
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Sounds like that famous atheist, Madeline Murray O'Hare (I think that's close) all over again.
I always thought that the whole point of the US was freedom FROM religion. If you don't want it, it not ought be imposed upon you.
The easy answer is to pause during those two words and say them or not. The National Federation of Republican Women has been doing it for years.
Isn't that a surprise?
I think what the 9th Circuit was all about was the ostracization of a child whose parent had an issue because he is an atheist. Remember that the words "under G*d" were added during the McCarthy years. It was VERY politically correct back then.
Loyalty to our flag and our nation is one thing. Our personal beliefs are quite another thing.
I think anyone, regardless of religious beliefs, can love and serve our country.
If there is supposed to be a separation of chuch and state, then why is there a bible in every court to swear in witnesses?
BTW, as for the "under God" issue, I think it is ok to drop the phrase since a pledge toward our country should not be limited to christians. I would die to defend our freedom from oppression, whether it is military, religious or otherwise.
Also since we are a democratic society and the majority of our country is christian, it is not unreasonable to expect some religious references, however they should not be critical to being a citizen.