We often see the "hot topic threads" about dress codes, kids on cruises, etc., and then my last poll a couple of days back about bringing booze onboard, and drinking it in public areas. Got me to wondering.....
Which rules APPLY to You??
Do you think because you paid your fare you should get to decide which rules apply to you, and which apply to the other people around you?
Does the person saving a dozen loungers by the pool, who is in a non smoking area, have a right to complain about the person lighting up next to them?
I think the second question would apply to me because I am a non smoker and I
am also an antismoker, however if I was on the deck and someone lit up next to
me I would just find some other place to sit so I would depend on where I was if I
would say anything but if I did I would be polite.
I was raised to believe that there are rules and the rules are to be obeyed. I am not a goody goody or a snob like I have been accused of. i just had a good example set for me growing up. I do Dress for the dinners and dress formal for the formal nights and I do Not save lounge chairs on the pool deck. i do Not believe that I should carry on board my own Booze. This is a vacation and I am there to have the best time i can have. This doesnt entail smuggling thing I shouldnt have brought on board. If I want a drink I will buy it from the bars there. i am not a huge drinker of alcohol but I drink my share. I think I did honestly answer all your questions. Please dont think of me as a snob. I just know what the rules are and I obey them. Blame my parents for this trait. I am in my fifties and find it hard to change now. Happy cruising! Char
I wouldn't be next to a smoker in a lounge chair on deck anyway. I've had skin cancer more than once so I make it a point to stay out of the sun. However, once at a supermarket I reached out and grabbed a cigarette olut of a guy's mouth and stomped it out on the floor. He was a Frenchman and quite arrogant. I kept hearing about "you people" from his girlfriend. Then I asked them why, if Americans are so culturaly and intellectually deprived did they feel they had to come to South Florida for vacation? Yes I broke the rules of politeness, but he was breaking the law of the land.
I'm not sure I purposely break any rules. I don't drink so I have no need to smuggle alcohol onboard, I am not big on just laying out in the sun so I don't save chairs for anyone, I don't smoke so I don't worry about what side of the ship I am on. I do dress up on formal night out of consideration to other passengers, the fashion police and because I enjoy eating in the dining room but I hate every minute I am in formal clothes.
I guess my biggest breaking of the rules would be if you are rude to me or my wife I have absolutely no problem of getting in your face and making sure you realize you are rude. This very rarely happens on a cruise but it has happened when people have been rude to my wife because she is slow moving because she is handicapped. I have seen people push her out of the way to try to get on elevators first or to try and take a chair away from her. I do not tolerate arrogant rude people. I will be polite as long as they are polite to me and my wife.
Wow, touchy subject, eh Kooky? I have to agree with Char up there, who was raised to believe rules are to be followed, and to be polite to others, no matter how rude they may be. I haven't had any problems with rule-breakers or rudeness on cruises, but then I stay away from areas where smokers hang out (casino especially), and I only save a deck chair for myself. And I would rather pay for drinks than smuggle in booze, although that doesn't seem to bother my hubby.
I usually play really loud music on the boom box radio I bring with me. I do this early in the morning when I go up on deck to spread towels, tee shirts and paperback books on half a dozen or so lounge chairs .The boom box goes over very well when played very loud on your balconey as well. Most cruisers love listening to M&M and Puff Daddy played nice and loud at all times of the day and night. I usually then head for the dining room where we pocket a place setting or two at each meal and after breakfast I light up an after meal cigarette at the dining room table. If we are at sea , then it is off to the casino where I will save stools in front of four or five of my favorate machines. Eventually we work our way up to our lounge chairs where we turn up the music and light a a few stogies. We will the take the one soda card we purchased and go around to several differnt bars or waiters and get sodas for our whole party. Can't forget to send someone to reserve a row of front row seats at afternoon bingo. Buffet lunch is always a good place to grab off a few more place settings for the collection. By late afternoon it is time to go back to our room to get the big canvas sack that we use to shoplift stuff from the tee shirt, watch and gemstone sales in the hallways by the shops. Of course we never give up the poolside lounges, you never know when you want to go back. It's cool any time of night or day to order excessive amounts of roomservice food and stuff and not eat it and to stiff the room service waiter as well
Then it's off to the room to change into blue jeans shorts tee shirts and open toed sandals for dinner. Be sure to grab some silverware early as waiter is likely to pick up the unused stuff after you order. Make sure you send someone to the main show lounge early to reserve a row or two of prime seats. Don't forget when playing poolside trivia to only write down your answers while the cruise staff is reading them . This way you are sure to score lots of ship's gifts. Oh yes, remeber to lie about your travel arrangements so you can disembark when you want and don't forget to stiff the dining room staff and steward on their tips. What the heck, you are not going to see them again anyway.
Just a few more thoughts. Don't forget to exclude you tablemates from conversation, unless you include them while you are telling stories about how much better your last few cruises were than theirs and how good cruising was " in the old days". Be sure to emphasize every night how much better whatever it was that you did ashore was than what they did that day. Oh, don't forget to complain a few times to the pursars desk about some non existent problem so you can get some free stuff. Complaining to shore excursion desk about some nonverifiable excursion problems can also be a good way of getting something for nothing.
Wear a set of antlers and tell people your name is Kuki while exhibiting this behavior. Never use your own name.
Now what was it you asked Kuki? What rules do I obey? What's a rule?
I always try to follow the rules and be considerate of others. The smoking subject is interesting.......once on a Princess cruise we went to a show and were one of the last to find seats. We did find some in this lounge area that was a smoking section. Had an older couple at the table in front of us and when we figured it was OK to smoke, they abruptly got up and moved, needless to say, their table too did have an ashtray, what were they thinking? I almost felt bad, but then I would never smoke in any non-smoking area and smoke, so I felt they knew they were in a smoking section, no need to give us dirty looks as they left.
I also have a big hang-up with the lounge chairs. I only use them when I'm there, I never reserve any before hand like you see on every cruise. It sometimes gets to the point when looking for just 2 together by 10AM, its almost impossible to find any, many are still left with belongings on them and no people in sight, really burns me up. Same when I'm using one and we decide to go for lunch, I just give it up and find another one when we come back.
You forgot one of the biggest sin's......those people who take cuts in line or are always letting everyone and his brother (or sister) in..... directly in front of you.....that really hacks me off. I was amazed on a recent cruise how many senior citizens practice this.(they know better)
I usually say something, but I am not rude....just let them know it is wrong and they shouldn't do it.
Line jumping is a big no- no in my family. My sis lives near Dorney Park in PA and we go 2-3 times a year. Lining jumping gets annoying and my sis usually complains and will not let them pass. But one time when we were on a very LONG line to the big roller coaster, a guy went from all the way in the back ( an hour wait to the front). Many people were grumbling and my sis told the line guard ( they have one) and he refused to leave the line and was ejected from the park. EVERYONE on the line applauded! There are signs all over that if you line jump you will get ejected! Now I may let a few go a little way ahead to meet their group, but there are limits.
The "RULES" we often talk about on this board are not so much rules written down in some little book carried around by shipboard security officers as they are common
"rules" or commonly accepted forms of social behavior.and commonly accepted forms of ettiquette. No one stands at the door to the dining room like Simon the judge on TV
or some form of the gong show, zapping people out of line who fail to wear a tie .
Folks are not ejected from the show lounge by cruise staff for reserving a row of seats or put off the ship at the next port for saving too many lounge chairs.
Folks either observe or do not observe common courtesy, reasonable rules of behavior
and common social practice. In current society there is certainly an erosion of many of these things.It is certainly a shame. Can you imagine what folks of "polite society" at the end of the 19th and beginning of the 20th century would think of us these days?
Gram and I are probably like the majority of foks, when it's formal night we do formal,
we sit in 2 lounge chairs when we need them, we find two seats as available at the show, we wait our turn in line . As much as I make fun of lots of these forms of misbehavior both here and on the gripes board, I also do not dwell on them when I travel , unless someone shoves their misbehavior in my face. Don't sweat the small
stuff. You cannot let the minor misbehavior of others ruin your day(when travelling or otherwise). Reserve your actions and involvment in the behavior of others for more significant times when you are affected directly, or when someone incapable of "protecting " themselves is affected or when safety or significant common order is being affected.
Boy , would my Mom have been proud of me for writing this because I was the kid from the south Bronx with the hot temper and fast fists. How we mellow with age and when we have "little people" observing our behavior. The bottom line of all this rules stuff is simply the old Golden Rule . Do unto others etc.
Happy Cuising everyone.
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for me it all boils down to common courtesy and common decency(sp?). The rules are there for a reason without them its called mutiny on a ship. I don't let the little things get to me, but if you get in my face or heaven forbid my kid's face - watch out(GRRRRR!)
When I'm on a cruise I try and relax and just enjoy myself and try not to let other people bother me if they are "breaking the rules". I'm a rule follower, I worked at a German company for 33 years and it was their way or the highway, I know rules!!!
I'm a major non-smoker but have friends who smoke and pretty much they're what I call, polite smokers. If smoke does bother me, I move elsewhere. I do it quietly and don't make an issue of it. The ship is big and I'm not the police to tell them they are smoking on the wrong side of the ship. Why raise my blood pressure and cause a scene?
I have to work at minding my own business and not getting involved on a vacation because normally at home I can't walk away if I see something blatantly wrong. I've always been vocal and opinionated, not afraid to champion a cause but when I'm on vacation I try to give it a rest!!!!