If you really want to "end this here", why do keep responding? The more you argue with my views, and try to prove your point, the more I realize how detached from reality you really are. It really amazes me. You have a better solution, hey? Easy to say that when the majority solution is already in effect.
In every conflict and war, there are people like you who swear they had a better solution. To be honest, I really don't care.
Go write a book, maybe 30% of Americans will buy it.
By the way.... what is the official time span for "Patience"? If we waited 20 years before going in, I am sure you would say 20 years and 1 day. If we waited 10 years, I bet the answer would be 10 years and 1 day. Another 10 + years is not acceptable. And in my opinion, even pointless and only devasting for the US and US allies.
Is this the end of this debate now? If not just let me know, I have a lot left in me. By the way, this is "chit chat for cruisers" and I was under the impression that we were allowed to discuss various subjects unrelated to cruising. If not, just go ahead and give me another 10 years to get out. Maybe I will defect to the "other" message board in the Destinations section.