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Old April 20th, 2005, 06:01 PM
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I was perusing news reports today. One tidbit I had not known was that:

The New York Post reported that "Norwegian Cruise Line said that, a week before departure, the ship's return was moved up by five hours, to 5 a.m. Sunday from 10 a.m. The line attributed the change to "operational reasons" and refused to elaborate, the newspaper said. "

The Post said that this was due to a photo shoot for "The Apprentice." Supposedly, NCL paid $1M to be on the show. I wonder if they were speeding to port for the photo shoot. I know I would have been a little perturbed waking up for the sail into NYC Harbor only to find out it happened five hours early while dark.

Here is another interesting comment from the same story:

"But Norwegian spokeswoman Susan Robison denied the captain was under pressure to hurry back, and refused to comment on "The Apprentice" or the $1 million fee, the Post reported. "

I will sure be interested to hear of the findings in the final report.

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Old April 20th, 2005, 06:46 PM
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I believe it. Other ships avoided the storm with out problems.
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Old April 20th, 2005, 07:08 PM
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Hi Marc,
That was some interesting news, hadn't heard anything about that...but they missed getting into NYC on Sunday anyway

I would hope that the captain wouldn't of taken a more risky route to get back to NY earlier and put the passenger's safety in danger??

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Old April 20th, 2005, 07:10 PM
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According to the nightly news, that is exactly what happened. guess Trump's offer of 1 million dollars got them greedy.
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Old April 20th, 2005, 07:19 PM
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Jeanne, I heard that NCL PAID Trump $1M; not the other way around. Which news network was reporting the opposite?

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Marc, If I said that you were speeding last week on I-$ because Trump said if you got home before 3PM he was going to give you $100,000 you would deny it, right? Also would your wife tell someone she has no idea what they are talking about and refuse to comment? Things like this are hard to defend against as if you talk you are guilty and if you deny it you are guilty! The facts are the ship hit a very large wave head on that could not be detected prior to it's arrival and would have done so anyway as the ship was going to be in that area regardless. Sounds like media trying to 'make' news and not 'report' news. I'm not trying to protect the cruiseline as I honestly don't personally care for NCL but the premise that this is somehow NCL's not the Capt's fault is just plain way out in left field.
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I say we ask the new Pope what he thinks really happened. Like all the other reports, he'll either be right or wrong.

Refresh my memory - how many people died on the Dawn? Oh, yeah, I remember - none.
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Old April 20th, 2005, 09:32 PM
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"Sounds like media trying to 'make' news and not 'report' news"...................Jim Bragg.

C'mon Jim, give Marc a break. He is reporting what the NY Post reported. I'm glad to see he took the time to post that bit of information on this web site.

And if NCL didn't pay Trump to be on his show I would think they would be forthcoming and deny it, if not for any other reason but to discredit the NY Post. Yet to deny it and then it be discovered they did pay to be on "The Apprentice" would be a huge PR problem.

You do know companies (Coca Cola, Budweiser, et. al.) pay big money to the movies to have their products displayed in films? Why wouldn't a cruiseline do the same to a hit T.V. show?

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Old April 20th, 2005, 10:53 PM
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Is there ever a time when something goes wrong that the cruiseline involved is NOT
at fault? A ship on the ocean runs into some stormy seas--- Hasn't that happened ever since there has been oceans and ships ? A rogue wave hits a cruise ship---with so many ships on the seas at any given time, it's a wonder it doesn't happen more often than it does. No matter what the captain did or didn't do, good or bad, no matter which cruiseline it was, they will be blamed.

There are always a few who ferret out any thing that could possibly cast doubt on the captain and cruiseline.
Can it be so hard to believe that sometimes things happen, especially involving the sea
and weather, that we can't really do anything about??
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Old April 21st, 2005, 07:42 AM
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Here is an article about this possibility on CNN/Money magazine:

http://money.cnn.com/2005/04/20/news...boat/index.htm

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Old April 21st, 2005, 09:08 AM
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Thanks Michelle for posting that link.

What I gather from that article is NCL decided to return early so their ship could be displayed on Trump's show. NCL paid for this exposure. Because of the rogue wave they didn't make it in time.

Did the decision to have this exposure cause the ship to sail in avoidable storms? Of course NCL will say not. But the other question is, did the decision to return early short change the passenger's cruise?

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Oh boy, that's going to open up a whole new "can of worms", i can hear the stampede of lawyer's lining up.
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I can hear the summary of the case being written: "Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, should a contract Trump safety?" Come one, you know someone on CourTV is gonna say it!

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