Go Back   CruiseMates Cruise Community and Forums > People > Chit - Chat for Cruisers
Register Forgot Password?

Chit - Chat for Cruisers Open Forum for non-cruise posts. Please refrain from inflammatory rhetoric that could be considered offensive. We reserve the right to edit or delete for any reason.

LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old October 25th, 2005, 01:28 AM
CruisinK n J's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Southern California
Posts: 7,600
Default Problems

Well, guys, I am very upset, and I guess Keith is, too. We have marriage problems after 30-plus years together. I think that all of the problems of the past year-and-a-half have come to a peak.

I told Keith tonight that I have started to hate him. His behavior toward me must change. At age 76, I don't know if he can do that.

He's always been a good man. But he is different after his illness, and I am different, too, because of that illness. I have my troubles, as well. I'm not saying I am perfect.

I plan to make an appt. with a therapist for the both of us. Keith knows that, but I know he's unhappy about it, though he seems willing.

I hope you guys don't think we're bad because of this. I don't want an awkwardness when all of us do meet. We're not violent, and we don't fight in public

Just needed to let out a little bit.

Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #2 (permalink)  
Old October 25th, 2005, 01:52 AM
Lisa's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Wisconsin....about 100 miles south of the Frozen Tundra and 70 miles east of Camp Randall
Posts: 9,745
Send a message via AIM to Lisa Send a message via Yahoo to Lisa

Judy - no need to feel guilty. People change....life changes them! Yes, it is difficult, but illness does affect people very differently. Frankly, I would be surprised if there weren't problems - in many families after all the stresses that illness puts on them, there are many problems. I deal with this all the time at my job.

Go to the counseling and work hard.......from your post it seems that Keith is willing to do this too. The two of you have an investment in each other that is worth saving. Don't give up! Prayers going out for both of you.
Carnival Breeze with Ray B and Aerogirl 5/4/14!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old October 25th, 2005, 05:11 AM
MaryLou's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: A small suburb of Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 4,796

Judy: Please don't worry about what we will think of you. We are not judgemental! Only you have walked in your shoes and know how you feel. I'm glad you are willing to get counciling. Good luck and please know we are here for you.
Mary Lou Scanlon
NCL Pride of America April 24, 2010
NCL Epic February 12, 2011
RCCL Allure of the Seas - September 18, 2011
Celebrity Eclipse - February 11, 2012:
RCCL Navigator OTS - February 9, 2013
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old October 25th, 2005, 05:18 AM
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Orlando
Posts: 4,430
Send a message via AIM to Angela Z.

It sounds like you're taking a big step in the right direction. You've both been through quite a lot in this past year and changes happen. Hopefully you'll find a way to work through this.
Angela Z.
on Celebrity Constellation
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old October 25th, 2005, 05:58 AM
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 3,638

I'm glad to hear that you are taking steps to try and make things better. Many people would just throw in the towel and not attempt to take the hard way.

Know that you are in prayers.
NCL DreamCarnival Victory
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old October 25th, 2005, 07:02 AM
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: metrowest area of Massachusetts
Posts: 2,249

Judy--sorry to hear that you and Keith are having problems. You are moving in the right direction to get help. Everyone has problems somewhere in their lives, whether it's with marriage, family, friends or work. You both have been through alot in the past year. This can build up inside a person to the point of resentment. At least you started the healing process by opening up to Keith about your feelings towards him. That was very brave of you.

You are both in my thoughts and prayers even more now, that the life you have built over all these years will one day be happy and loving again.

You should not and will not be judged by this problem, at least in the hearts of your CM family and true friends.
Cheryl C.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old October 25th, 2005, 08:22 AM
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 3,992

The first step is in recognizing that there is a problem. The second step is recognizing why. It seems you have done both of those things. The next step is to seek the assistance you might need to salvage a 30 year relationship. You've done that too.
You and Keith have weathered some "Category 5" issues in the last few years. That cannot be without damage (physical and psycological). Please both of you know that you are surrounded here by good folks who care about you and who are willing to offer a place to speak out on your feelings at any time. I hope you two can redefine the love that brought you together and that has kept you together for 30 years.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old October 25th, 2005, 08:32 AM
Phyllbo's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 6,502

Judy, problems can and do come up in any marriage or relationship. It's good that you have recognized your need for outside help, and that Keith is willing (although reluctant) to go with you to try to work things out. I've learned along the way that you really can't change anyone else, but you can change yourself, and how you deal with things. There is much to be hopeful for for both of you. I will keep you in prayer.

Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old October 25th, 2005, 11:02 PM
rollerdonna's Avatar
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Caribou River, Nova Scotia
Posts: 17,625

Judy, you shouldn't worry about what we might think, that doesn't matter. What DOES matter, is that you and Keith have 30 years invested in each other, and I think you're going in the right direction by A) admitting there's a problem, and b) looking for help.
Having been through a divorce early in my first marriage, I understand your pain and your shame, but you have to do what's right for YOU!
Good luck to you both.... and remember, we're here for you.

Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old October 26th, 2005, 06:32 PM
Fern's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 5,619


After what you two have been through it's not surprising that there are problems. I hope the therapist will be able to help you and Keith sort things out. I'll be thinking of you both, and you know you can always vent here.
Carnival Inspiration2002CarnivalElation&
EmeraldPrincess2017 Island Princess2018
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old October 26th, 2005, 07:19 PM
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Texas
Posts: 11,518
Send a message via Yahoo to Luanne Russo

Judy, it makes me feel good that you care enough about us to tell. You are doing the right thing, by getting help. What you have been through these last few months have been more than most could take. You are wonderful. Take care.

Ecstasy 2005
Conquest 2005
Elation 2005
Conquest 2006
Conquest 2007
Ecstasy 2008
Valor B2B 2008

Conquest Virtual Cruise Topic Link
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old October 26th, 2005, 09:12 PM
bigjohn461's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Hot Springs, Ark.(just below farrimco
Posts: 4,117

Judy and Keith,
Do not feel bad about ventiing your feelings here. I can't add anything to what the others have said and I think PapaBill put as well as it can be put. You have taken all the strides to secure your marriage, now just follow through with it. You know we are here and we are praying for you and Keith. Now all that said....Don't make me stop this car
Good Luck and God Bless.
Reply With Quote


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Any problems with.... ferrangi Carnival Cruise Lines 16 April 10th, 2009 08:44 PM
Have Airline Problems Caused Cruise Problems for You? jhannah Holland America 18 February 28th, 2007 03:06 PM
Problems too? Trip Chit - Chat for Cruisers 12 July 7th, 2005 12:01 AM
Why so many problems? SmartiePants Norwegian Cruise Lines 8 September 2nd, 2004 01:49 PM
If you've got Problems...I want them!! Tim Rubacky Ask CruiseMates Staff 4 November 20th, 2000 07:24 PM

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:13 PM.
design by: Themes by Design

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.1