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Old April 4th, 2006, 11:04 PM
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Did anyone else see the story on the news about a 16 year old girl who got served 12 drinks on a cruise ship and fell overboard to her death? They didn't say what cruise line she was on.
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havent heard this one yet, but its honestly not surprising... if a teenager wants alcohol / cigarettes, etc... they can find a way to get them. Im NOT saying she deserved to die by any means... Im just saying its too easy for minors to access things they shouldnt !!

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Around the first of the year a young girl was served many drinks and fell overboard. Her sister was with her.

Would that be it?
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I've heard nothing about this at all! There was a news piece about a family suing a cruise line because their daughter went on a cruise and died of a drug overdose. Perhaps you're confusing different stories.

The oddity... there's 1000s of posts on the internet about how to sneak alcohol onboard ships. Then, when something does go wrong with people being too drunk everyone wants to know what the cruise lines are going to do to improve safety!!!
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Are you suggesting the act of sneaking alcohol on board is directly related to fatalities from alcohol abuse?

The consumption of alcohol leads people to do stupid things not the method of possession. The cruiselines sell it by the drink, by the bottle, and by the case and promote the sales with "specials" of the day and having 15 different venues on the ships available for alcohol purchases.

Seems to me when you have an enviroment loaded with loaded people some people are going to suffer terrible accidents. The odds are there.

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Kuki - I believe this is a revival of the story of the 16 year old Irish teen who drank too much on a Costa ship and either jumped or fell overboard (depending on which version you believe) back in January. She was served by the ship's bars, but she was also with her family who seemingly turned a blind eye to some things, and then she got in an argument with her parents and the tragedy happened.
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Are you suggesting the act of sneaking alcohol on board is directly related to fatalities from alcohol abuse?
Thomas.. nope. Not everyone onboard is going to drink to excess and jump or fall overboard.

However when the amount of alcohol consumed is somewhat controlled by those selling it, the likelihood of "overservice" is diminished.

These days licensed establishments that overserve patrons are held responsible to what happens after that patron leaves their establishment.

That wouldn't be the case if they had a few bottles in their coat, or in their car that they were drinking from after leaving the bar.

I am saying that there are SO many complaints about the cruise line restricting what alcohol passengers bring onboard that many sneak it on.... then jump on the cruise line when tragedy does strike.
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brings up another point. Should servers, bartenders etc refuse to sell/serve alcohol to someone who is obviously very drunk?
And should servers/bartenders only be allowed to sell a couple of drinks per person at each service?
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And should servers/bartenders only be allowed to sell a couple of drinks per person at each service?
After 30 years in the bar business I do have some experience in this area The "number" of drinks per person is really not a key. Everyone has a different tolerance for alcohol, plus for example 8 -10 drinks over a 10 hr period brings very different results than 8 -10 drinks over a 2 hr period.

No question that servers should be responsible for "overserving". There is a however a difference between being drunk and being "totalled" or "falling down" drunk.

Honestly, I don't think any of the cruise lines want to see any passenger
"totalled", as the problems they can create aren't worth the $$ profit.
And I don't think it's all that common to see passengers THAT drunk. On all of my cruises I've yet to see anyone passed out in public areas like lounges or promenades... which I think would be a pretty likely scenario.

Not to say there aren't some that get TOO drunk, but don't think it's as many as people sometimes make out. Though there's been some loud obnoxious "slightly" drunk people who'd I'd have preferred to see more drunk so they'd just pass out
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When we were in Cozumel, March 17, 2006, a young boy, 17-18 years old had consumed so much alcohol, while on the Island, that he was unconscious and vomiting (he was suffering from alcohol poisoning). He was brought to the dock, to tender back to the ship, but authorities would not let him board until one of his parents came and signed for him and escorted him back to the ship. They located his mother on the ship and tendered her to the dock to pick her son up. You don't have to smuggle or be served on the ship to become intoxicated.
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Kuki - that is my point exactly. I mean if a person is obviously "totalled" on a ship are the bartenders/servers instructed to refuse them service?
Also to avoid people buying for underage drinkers do you think that the cruise lines could impose of limit of say 3 or 4 drinks per person per purchase?
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