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Old January 26th, 2007, 10:18 AM
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Just a curiosity... to all of our Canadian Cruisemates, how many "lost" their citizenship after not celebrating their birthday in Canada?
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Old January 26th, 2007, 11:26 AM
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We have some weird laws here in the US, like the one in a neighboring town where you cannot sell a used anchor to a minor on Sunday, however this one may take the grand prize.

From what I understand from the CBC website if a Canadian was outside the country on their 24th birthday and did not file the proper form, they lost their citizenship. Some 20,000 according to the story lost it and do not know it. It is just being discovered by those who are applying for passports due to needing them soon to travel anywhere.

It is sad and upsetting to those who suddenly find themselves officially stateless.

I am not poking fun at our Canadian cruisemates here, I am just curious and would like them to answer a question:

What is signifcant about the 24th birthday that being abroad exacted such a heavy penalty?
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Old January 26th, 2007, 11:29 AM
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Interesting, and unusual..I had not heard this story at all...
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Old January 26th, 2007, 11:32 AM
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well i would think that these people would be du some kind of tax return to ease their pain
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Interesting, and unusual..I had not heard this story at all...
Here is the link to the story on the CBC website:

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/...passports.html
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I hadn't heard this one either. Sure there's tons of odd laws on the books, just not sure why they haven't been dealt with earlier.

I've had my passport a long time, and renewed several times, so I guess I'm still a citizen. Though after a certain round of pictures and video circulated I am somewhat surprised they haven't show up at my door asking for the passport back.
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It has been on both TV and radio this past 9 or so days here. It seems to have rathered steam because many have tried to get a passport or had theirs renewed to go into the U.S. and they were informed that they were not citizens of Canada anymore.
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It is not that unusual. Every country sets a standard. At the time, the age of 24 was set as an age old enough to decide where you want to be a citizen of. This applied mainly to people who were born in Canada but for what ever reason you were not living in Canada. If you live out side of the country, you should be aware, or at least your parents of what you must do to retain your citizenship. There are in fact rules that remian in force today and they are only reasonable. I had to do the same to retain my Dutch nationality, at a certain age , I had to state legally I wanted to keep it even though I was no longer living in Holland. I knew I had to do it, and when it was time, I did it. Just like I applied for the papers for my son to have these nationality papers( they changed four months after he was born, no one can do that any more, but he was still able) and he will also have the same obligation to submit the same papers to keep it. I also of course am a Canadian citizen. I knew what I had to do, when I had to do it, some people either don't look into things like this, just don't for what ever reason deal with it, but certainly, if you live out side the country, you or the childs parents better know the rules to doing that regarding citizenship, health care, taxes and so on. Thats just my personal opinion on it. The law has since been changed because it did not make sence, but you kind of have to keep up with things like that , you need to know what is what when you leave your country, especially when in most cases we see, they took second citizenship out, especially in the USA. The law is now changed, but there are still rights and olbligations when you leave the country to continue to receive your benifits and so on.
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I guess it is similar to the law in the U.S. where one has to register for selective services at the 18th birthday even though we don't have a draft.
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Yes I think your right Michael. By the same token, in reverse I have a relative that came to Canada in the 60's, the became a citizen of Canada and always presumed he would keep the Dutch, it he did not file the paper work needed, and when retired and went to work in Holland found out he was no longer a citizen for the same reasons, and had to become a landed immigrant( this took almost no real time because he was born there) and state again he wanted to keep citizenship of both country's, and trust me he doesnt miss the date any more to file that he wishes to keep it this way.
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I had no idea! How come I missed this news?
And Kuki, your reply made me laugh out loud!

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You missed it RD because it really isnt news, it is old news, with a new spin only because so many are applying for passports this year. I have seen this on the news for ever and the day, usuaully , on segments like "on your side type pieces", case by case, the same story, family moved to the USA, came back, never applied for passport, often took out second citizenship in another country, ( now they have agreements with most other countires to have duel) then found out they were not citizens because of that old rule. It gets sorted out, and now because of the whole passport thing, people are fast tracked, which is better than before as it always took up to three years or so.
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Okay, the southern girl needs educating this morning....I thought the US didn't recognize dual citizenship. Am I wrong here?
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Okay, the southern girl needs educating this morning....I thought the US didn't recognize dual citizenship. Am I wrong here?
I dont know about the USA, but I do know it is alloud in Canada if you follow certain rules.
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