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Old October 24th, 2007, 10:55 AM
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Here is a picture from the wildfires:

Firefighters take refuge in their portable, flame-resistant shelters as the wildfire they were battling flares up, temporarily trapping them along a ridge near Santiago Canyon Road in Orange, Calif. Nobody was seriously hurt. Source:sfgate.com

For more information visit the red cross website http://www.redcross.org/article/0,10...2_7172,00.html Since this article was written over 1/2 millon people have been evacuated from their homes. The Santa Ana winds and dry conditions have made these fires difficult to contain.
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I have an aunt down there, she had to evacuate her home, some of the homes on her block are distroyed. She ended up in the hospital, I found out last night, doing tests, etc. I just needed to know that she was safe and she is. Her home is in Gods hands for now.

What a terrible thing to happen, so many people and their homes.
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Donna, I'm glad you finally got word about your aunt. The fires have brought so much devastation.
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Thanks Darlene,
Its just nice to know she's safe.
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Our area learned just how devastating Mother Nature can be when Hurricane Katrina made landfall. We hope and pray that everyone is safe, including the brave firefighters who are risking their lives to save that part of the world. I saw a lady on the news last night, the fires had reached her neighborhood and she was crying. She said there were no firefighters there. The fires are so widespread, I'm sure they can't be everywhere, but her despair was heart wrenching. It's a look I've seen before.

The news also said they have evacuated as many people as were evacuated during Katrina. That is a massive undertaking. I think of the infrastructure devastation and how long it will be before hospitals, schools, libraries and public buildings will be rebuilt. Such a horrible thing for anyone to face. My heart is heavy.

My prayers go out to my fellow Americans in California. We will survive. From the burnt rubble, a bright new world WILL emerge.

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My brother lives about a mile from Qualcom Stadium (which has about 10,000 displaced people there).
Last night they were actually turning away donors because of the huge response.
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I pray for a drenching rain very quickly. Not enough to flood but to stop the advance of the fires.
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Kat, so many disturbing pictures like that. What we need is a good hard rain, but don't think that's in our immediate future.

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Kat~~ We live in San Diego. Do you live near us ??

You cannot believe how bad it is here. Lucky for us, we are in one of the few areas not on fire. There have been over 500,000 people evacuated, including many of my family and friends.

My kids are trying to get to LAX for the flight to Miami for THEIR cruise and Interstate 5 has been closed on and off.

All the cruise ships leaving from San Diego will go as scheduled. That area hasn't been affected by the fires, and has pretty good air quality.

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Kat~~ We live in San Diego. Do you live near us ??

You cannot believe how bad it is here. Lucky for us, we are in one of the few areas not on fire. There have been over 500,000 people evacuated, including many of my family and friends.

My kids are trying to get to LAX for the flight to Miami for THEIR cruise and Interstate 5 has been closed on and off.

All the cruise ships leaving from San Diego will go as scheduled. That area hasn't been affected by the fires, and has pretty good air quality.

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I'm from Northern California around Sacramento. But we were up in San Diego and LA last week for my hubby's birthday 10/17. We headed back on last Saturday morning and we could see the smoke and it was windy.
My hubby's birthday is the anniversay of the Loma Prieta 7.1 earthquake 10/17/89, he turned 21 that day. I wish the best for the people in Southern California affected by these fires. I saw that picture on SF Gate and wanted to start this post with the red cross information.
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I just called my cousin in California tonight, she is in Victorville. A family friend answered the phone, and told me they are safe, but the air is pretty bad. My cousin was not home because her son and his girlfriend had their 1st baby born today! Life goes on......

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As I stated in the good morning post:

I have been watching the fires in San Diego as my best friend from HS lives out there. I have been looking at an interactive map of the Witch Creek Fire and his house is in the burn zone, however his residence is not on the official list of burned out houses. Hopefully his was spared.

He decided to abandon NJ for Escondido about 20 years ago and I have to admit he made a good decision about location. Good climate, good area, etc. but he always expressed apprehension about fires. I am trying to contact him through his office but that is closed also.

He is in my thoughts and prayers.
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If any of you get FOX news, they seem to be broadcasting fire news to many cities and states.

My Dad gets FOX news in Matzlan.

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They say this is only the beginning, and then when it rains, the slides will come. Get ready with your prayers, these people are going to need it.
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They say this is only the beginning, and then when it rains, the slides will come. Get ready with your prayers, these people are going to need it.
Yes Luanne, our officials are already talking about how they are going to reseed the areas.

Last year we had about 3 inches of rain. It would be just our luck to get 7 inches this year !

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Just got this from my brother in San Diego. He didn't write it, just forwarded it to me.

We have gotten a lot of messages asking how we are in the midst of all
> the fires here in San Diego. Thanks for asking if you have. Here is
> what has gone on.
>
> We evacuated our house on Monday when the fires got close...about a mile
> north, south and 300 yards west of us. We lived in our hangar at
> Gillespie Field for two days. Those of you who have been there know that
> living in the hangar is just about as nice as living here in our
> house...all the comforts of home and you get to look at airplanes too!
>
> We got home yesterday. The fires are still raging but not as close as
> they were. We lost lots of houses close by...nobody has been able to
> count them all yet.
>
> The newsmouths have and will continue to screw up reporting of what has
> gone on and to bend it to an agenda like "global warming" and an anti war
> blatt! Here is what went on from our perspective:
>
> The fire started in the mountains east of San Diego on Sunday afternoon
> when the normal October "Santa Ana" winds started blowing about 40 knots.
> The fire allegedly started up there from a downed power line.
>
> We have lived in San Diego for 47 years off and on and we know that we
> have strong Santa Ana winds in the middle of October every
> year......."global warming" has had nothing to do with that. What has
> changed in recent years is the expansion of expensive homes into brush
> and scrub tree country farther and farther from town. There have been
> brush fires up in the hills for about ten thousand + years and they are
> needed to keep the place from exploding every year. But as houses
> encroached on the boondocks the "environmentalists" insisted that the
> brush not be cleared or burned to protect the "natural habitat" of the
> critters there. We had the Cedar Fire in 2003 that burned right down
> into the city where that "habitat" had been preserved in regional parks
> and wild lands. Most of those places didn't burn this time because they
> burned then. Some homeowners in the hills have been instructed by the
> fire department to clear a "defensible space" around their houses only to
> have the feds or local environazis show up to issue fines for "destroying
> endangered habitat."
>
> Once the fire got started on Sunday it moved very quickly to the west
> with the wind. We had gusts of 75 to 100 knots in some canyons. The
> wind was so strong and the smoke so thick that the fire bombers and helos
> meant to put them out couldn't fly. Then other fires started from
> blowing embers....sometimes a mile or more downwind of the main fire. It
> got so hot in some places....like here in our neighborhood....that houses
> with tile roofs and adobe of stucco walls flashed to flame.
>
> The preliminary reports are that 1000 houses have burned....another
> report said there were 1650 of them....nobody knows yet. The city and
> county say that 500,000 people were evacuated and I suspect that is
> accurate because they can be counted where they have gone to seek
> shelter. Qualcomm Stadium (Chargers play there) and the Del Mar Fair
> Grounds and Race Track each have 12000 people +/- people and Del Mar has
> lots of horses, dogs and cats too.
>
> But this ain't NoooAwlins!!.....nobody is getting murdered in the stadium
> and nobody is complaining loudly. The people running the shelters have
> asked us to stop sending food and supplies (including hay for horses) and
> some have even said the don't need any more money!!?? The community
> pulled together and people helped each other! Even the government has
> had its act together as much as you could expect them to have it
> together....they all use the same radio frequencies for communications
> between "assets" now....in 2003 they didn't....and there has been a lot
> of cooperation and very little inter agency *****ing. Only our
> Senatehole Barbara Boxer and our Lt. Goobenadore, John Garamendi,
> complained that we didn't have enough National Guardsmen because they
> were in Iraq.......that, by the way, is undiluted bullshit!.......we have
> 1500 of them and don't need more. President Bush is gonna be here today.
> Garamendi complained about that too.....said the president would "get in
> the way"....but Garamendi wouldn't know because his fat ass never left
> Sacramento which is 600 miles north of here!
>
> Local businesses have been very active in helping out. Examples: just
> about every pizza joint you can think of supplied them free to the
> evacuation centers; Starbucks stopped charging for coffee and Qualcomm
> has contributed $1.5 Million so far to the recovery efforts. Even the
> county board of supervisors decided to stop all fees for building permits
> when houses or businesses will be rebuilt. FEMA and most of the
> insurance companies have set up centers for those who need them and there
> are internet sites advertised where people can get an early start on
> asking for help and money. The local Navy and Marines had troops and
> airplanes fighting the fires from the start.
>
> Nobody knows yet but it certainly appears that some of the fires were
> caused by arson. We have had about 11 different fires starting in widely
> scattered spots. Some of these, no doubt, were caused by embers flying
> in the wind but we have had about a half dozen that stared up wind from
> other fires....embers don't fly backwards. The investigations of this
> will start when the fires are out. But.....a reporter said last night
> that only "ten percent of arsonists get apprehended and only five percent
> get convicted." That's about the same as for bank robbers so I suspect
> the report is right.
>
> This will happen again in about two years. When it does we need the
> capability to put out the big fire in the strong wind before it gets out
> of hand as it has twice since 2003. It's obvious that we can't stand to
> repeat this every couple of years. It would help if we made an example
> of a couple of arsonists by helping them to meet their maker in a timely
> manner and it would help if we had some controlled burns of high brush
> during some damp and foggy days.....with the screaming envirofreaks
> locked up or corked for the duration.
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rinker~~~Ha Ha Ha

Your brother is really funny. I live in San Diego, and everything he said is true.

He really is a funny guy.

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I believe your brother on the not clearing of the brush because of enivomentalist protest and the misleading first reports of the area.

After the 10/17/89 earthquake I heard from a person vacationing in Michgan and the news was reporting "The Golden Gate Bridge" had collapsed in the earthquake. The truth was a very small part of the "Bay Bridge " buckled and two people died. The major loss of life was on the 580 freeway which a large section collasped killing a lot of people.

Oddly enough Baseball saved lives on this occasion because the "World Series" was on and it was SF Giants VS Oakland As (two bay area teams). A lot of people left work early to see the game.
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Hi Pat and Kat,
He was forwarding an email to me...he is not the author.
As you say...it is apparently true.

Like when they checked ID at Qualcom...the refugees dropped from 12,000 to 400.

Which is why it was closed at noon today.

BTW, he knows of ONE occasion of looting. Perps were caught by the folks on the street. Rather than localized justice, the two were dragged to authorities.
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the smoke from the fires has travelled as far as the bay area/san francisco area. when i was there today it was pretty thick and that was in northern cali. over here in sacramento the smoke has affected alot of peoples health so i shudder to think of the people in southern cali. my thoughts and prayers go out to everyone there. as kat said the earthquake was bad with the cypress collapsing so that the two top levels of the freeway collapsed on the lowest level. people were trapped for days before help could get to them. i have family in the LA area who i pray are ok.
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Thanks Crazysis I couldn't remember the name 'Cypress' I know it was the old 580 freeway and the picture of it collapsed like that I will always remember.
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