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View Poll Results: At what stage of a courtship is it appropriate for a couple to share a cabin that can be configured
After they Start Dating 19 38.78%
After Dating Becomes Exclusive 15 30.61%
After they Announce their Engagement 4 8.16%
Only After they Marry 11 22.45%
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I'm just curious as to the consensus of the board, but please "reply" with your rationale as well.

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Nothing less than Dateing exclusivly! Everyone has their own ideas of what is right and wrong to do, however if this would be a cruise vacation that two people can go on not only as significant others, but truely as friends first and formost, respecting each other as unique individuals. It would be a learning experience as to whether the two can "stand each other" for a period of time where they can't just walk out and go home. The big thing in my personal opinion is to trust in God, and ask Him if this decision is the right thing to do. If we truely rely on God for the answer to all things, including relationships, then I would also consider it a possible step toward matrimony, and being "Hooked on Cruiseing"
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wow.....that's a conversation you have with each other prior to the acceptance of the invitation to go cruising...
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an inside cabin on a 7 day cruise would suggest that whatever the bed configuration, you better have a pretty good comfort level with each other
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how does your cabin steward know what to do about the configuration your first night onboard ...when I meet my cabin steward for the first time I always tip him in advance and when we come back from dinner the situation is solved
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I had to think about this one.
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I bet there are some married couples who cruise who like to have their beds apart
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I bet there are some married couples who cruise who like to have their beds apart LOL LOL
I was perusing the messages in this forum, and one young woman was apparently arranging to have her mother room with her father instead of her, leaving her (the daughter) to room with her brother. I take it that that couple no longer even likes to share the same room together, hehehe... 8)
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I deleted my own post. Just decided it was about something that really didn't belong here on the cruising site.

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A) It's none of my business.
B) It's their business.
C) When I "assume" ......
D) This question made Kuki think it was 1949.
E) All of the above.
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Okay, I'll add......

It depends on the couple and what THEY decide would be the appropriate time of the relationship to do this.
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i think that this is less a question about morality and more a question about religion??
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My son and his girlfriend have a house together. He is 22 and she is 19. They are both very mature and have a very good relationship.

She is in her 2 year of college and he has a very good job. They are going on this up coming cruise with us and they have their own cabin. Her parents are going with us also.

Maybe years ago this would have bothered me. Times, they are a changing....I guess.
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i think that this is less a question about morality and more a question about religion??
Some of the answers are dictated by religion, because some people derive their morality from their religion.

Religion, like the Spanish verb Ā«religarĀ», means to "re-tie" or reunite - to return to someone or something you came from. People who think that Christ is their maker try to reunite themselves with him by living as they believe he lived, and would want them to live, based on his morality. Many of them believe that he would not want them to fornicate, nor even create the perception that they were fornicating, by sharing a room when they are not married.

Other people people believe this, or at least claim that they believe this, but their actions speak louder than their words.

Then there are people like me who simply admit that they don't believe in religion, and march to the beat of different drummers.

Then there are people like me who play the drums, hehehe...

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I was baptized Catholic and raised Catholic. I went to a Catholic school for 7 years. After I left(was asked to leave) I had a real eye opening. I actually learned how to treat people for being people not because the went to the same school as I did(The Catholic one). Oh, those nuns.

I treat people with respect and kindness. I have wittnessed people coming out of church and screaming at others because their car was parked too close or tisk tisk because their kids cried during Mass. What good Christians they are.

I may or may not go to church and I don't critize those who do or don't. We just have to treat others the way we would want to be treated(that is the teaching)...with respect, kindness and understanding. Why should we think it is so wrong to live with another person and not be married? Look at the divorce rate. Someone didn't know their partner as much as they thought they did.

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I really don't see how this question relates to cruising, it seems more like a leading question to open people up for criticism, but I will give it the benefit of the doubt and address it as a cruising question.

I think you left out the first option, which is "anytime they want to". I don't even see why you would question whether it is appropriate for a married couple to sleep in the same cabin - twin beds or not. Of course it is appropriate for a married couple to be in the same cabin. And as fr as I am concerned, also engaged and dating couples - without question.

As far as I am concerned, any two consenting adults should be able to cruise together in a cabin with separate twin beds anytime they want to, and it has nothing to do with morality.

It has to do with economics and the fact that cruising is priced for couples. There is hardly a cruise line anywhere anymore that gives a break to singles. In most cases you pay full fare for two people.

If you had a group of people with three women and one man and you didn't want to pay the singles supplement you would pretty much have to pair up one woman and the man. If they are adults, who know each other, trust each other, etc... I see absolutely nothing wrong with it.

I agree with Kuki, the question also makes me think I am back in 1963.
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Well said Paul

Thank you,

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Well, thank you Darlene, but I don't think I deserve any special merit. I agree with the people who posted ahead of me that it isn't any of my business what moral consenting adults choose to do.

A person is moral, in my book, based on how they treat each other and how they conduct their own affairs, public and private - not based on how they are perceived by strangers. If they share the same cabin and that is where it ends, I think even even the most religious people can still feel dignified. Even respectable, that they can be in a situation like that and still act in a moral manner. Isn't what one does in the face of temptation the true test of character?

I often get suspicious of people (like Spitzer) who go overboard preaching about idle hands and avoiding temptation. My gut often tells me they are speaking from experience. Oh, I have no proof (except Spitzer), but it just pings my radar.

"Judge not, lest thee be judged"

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Well Paul, I know some times we dont always agree but on this we sure do, I also wondered where the "any time one wants to option" was. I dont see what sharing a room has to do with morality,does it mean if you share a room your going to have $ex, I dont equate the two. If it happens people do, thats their business. In my young years, I travelled with males and females, we shared rooms, expences and occasinally toothpaste..........but little else........ As for 1949, let me tell a funny story. Recently friends of mine sent wedding anniversray invites, their parents were having a 50th. Now I always knew them as very rightious, religious moral people. They were very hard on their kids for everything moral in life.............I still remember when thier kid, my freind went away on a vacation together before getting married...........that was quite a turmoil, about 12 yrs ago.....any ways, my friend went to get an origional wedding certificate to frame with the 50th Anniversary invite....... and was shocked to find out that her parents were married 49 years..................but her brother is 50..........................Ya, they may not have been sharing a cruise cabin, but they were sharing something
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Yes, yes, yes...I agree totally.

Do as I say and not as I do....ha ha ha ha
To may say that they are so "good" until we find out differently. Like I really care. It's to each their own..

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If it's me.....then the answer is any time I want to!

If it's my daughter....I used to say they should be married, but now I think it should be a serious relationship. It was difficult for me to acknowledge the fact that my baby girls were young women, but I swallowed hard and accepted reality!

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Melody:
Yes, we are of the same mind on this one.


It is for Mommy's baby boy also....

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I have noticed that accepting baby girl's actions has a lot to do with which boyfriend she has at the time...
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Anytime. If a "couple" is going on a cruise then the beds should be put together! I don't think a girl would accept an invitation to go on a cruise and have it any other way.

In fact I have shared my cabin with girls I met ON the cruise! I always have the beds put together.

To answer Venice. When you book you generally have the choise of dining times and how you want the beds.

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Cool picture Dave....


What ship was that???

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That was the Grandeur two weeks ago.
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