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Old May 7th, 2008, 09:54 AM
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Does anyone know why Southwest has such cheap airfair? There want to get away is so much cheaper than the other flights and airlines? Is there a catch. It is a guaranteed flight right?
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I've flown Southwest a lot because of the cheaper flights. Have not had the problems as on other airlines. But, I call SW the cattle call of airlines, get 'em on and get em out!! Basically, they are a to the point airline - no frills!!!
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Also, when you book a flight, you don't get an assigned seat. Its basically first come, first serve when it comes to getting your seat on the plane. You just get in line at the gate and pick a seat when you board.
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Does anyone know why Southwest has such cheap airfair? There want to get away is so much cheaper than the other flights and airlines? Is there a catch. It is a guaranteed flight right?
I don't know if I just book going to the wrong places, bad timing or what, but I've just never been able to catch a significantly lower price on SWA. I'm not sure how much lower they could be since you can fly many airlines coast to coast round trip for under 300 bucks if you book ahead of time. Just remember with SWA you may have to make up to 3 stops or so along the way and that is part of the reason, I think, they can do somewhat lower fares at times. I've got a feeling those cheap fares are going to be ending industry wide here soon though.

I have flown SWA and sort of like the first come first serve seating. Also, at least at one time, they were known for their great customer service especially over the phone. They were known for always answering and not putting anyone on hold but I'm not sure if they still do this or not.
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I got 2 one way tickets for $95.00 each, it was at least $50.00 per ticket cheaper each and its direct flight, no layovers.
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Southwest, Allegiant Air, and USA 300 are one of the few decently priced carriers around. Yeah, no assigned seat but hey, I am easy going especially for a direct flight.
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Southwest pretty much invented the "discount" airline. Their business plan involved a tacit "pact" with the customer that went something like this: "We'll get you there cheaply, safely and reasonably on time. But you may have to change planes once or twice. In return you promise not to ***** that you don't get a seat assignment, food or coddling. You're just renting a seat for a couple hours, you're not marrying it, so get over it.
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Well, the "contract" worked, and people were willing to accept a lower standard of service in return for cheaper fares. Southwest prospered, and their business plan was imitated by others such as jetBlue and AirTran. All are perfectly good airlines, as long as you understand the "deal."

Ironically, now the major legacy airlines have lowered service standards to remain competitive on fares, so it's often hard to tell them apart. Fares are more and more similar, so is service, and since fuel now accounts for 40% of the cost of every ticket, prices will continue to rise and be more and more similar for all airlines.

But yes, of course you get a confirmed seat on Southwest, you just don't get to choose it ahead of time. So get to the airport early.
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Southwest does not fly from Boston, not a problem really, since I am equidistant to the Rhode Island, Green Aiport.

I have tried to use them in yrs past, but I really need a bulkhead seat, and don't want to chance not getting one..

If you have ever watched the A& E show Airline, you can see their customer service problems, and how they are handled. Sometimes I want to hand the employees, some valium.
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Yikes....I'm travelling on SW for the first time on Saturday....thought it might be a mistake looking at this subject.
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I have tried to use them in yrs past, but I really need a bulkhead seat, and don't want to chance not getting one..
It's absolutely none of my business, but if you're willing to say, why do you need a bulkhead seat? I only ask because SeatGuru marks Southwest bulkhead seats as yellow, which is moderately undesirable. They point out that like all bulkhead seats there is no storage available in front of you. They also note that the bins above the bulkhead seats are used for equipment storage and are also unavailable. Finally, they note that like on all 737's configured for all coach, the seats in the front few rows, including the bulkhead seats, are signficantly narrower than the seats in the rest of the plane. This is because the way the fuselage curves inward as you get up toward the cockpit. With a first class section you can finesse this because you're only putting four seats across instead of six. With an all coach configuration like Southwest, you have to reduce the seat width.
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Yikes....I'm travelling on SW for the first time on Saturday....thought it might be a mistake looking at this subject.
It's not a mistake. Go take your flight and be happy. Quit worrying.
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to add to AR's point..when Southwest first started the major carriers did not take them seriously and thought that no one would be willing to make multiple stops cross country, that business travelers would not fly Southwest because of seat assignments, meals etc..and heaven forbid, an airplane could not be turned in less then 30 minutes ground time..The CEO at that time for Southwest Herb k., used the trunk carriers arrogance to rally his employees to success...Southwest also has, by airline standards, a good working relationships with their unions

If Southwest were going to be a start up today, the major carriers would take them very seriously and not allow them to become entrenched, like Southwest did

Also, Southwest stayed pretty true to their core mission and did not become greedy in trying to grow or be like the "big boys"..one fleet type, an entrench company culture,,,,the Southwest model is studied at major business schools across the country

Herb is a pretty sharp guy
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I've flown SWA many times. It has been my experience that they very rarely depart or arrive on time. My last flight departed 2 1/2 hours late and the return flight departed 1 1/2 hour late and this was not the first time. They will get you there and back but no telling what time.
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I have never had major issues with Southwest. When the kids were little I actually preferred Southwest because they allowed people with small children to preboard, Trip they also allow people with special needs to board first, I would think that since your issue is probably medical in nature, that would apply to you, so you could pick the seat of your choice.
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The only thing that I was realy afraid of was that it wouldn't be a confirmed flight, that I might get bumped to another later flight which might make me miss the cruise. But if my cheap airfair is only the meal and no assigned seat and maybe a little late then I can live with that. My flight is due to come into Ft. Lauderdale 4 hours before cruising so I should be fine even if it runs late right?
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Well its hard to say, but you'll probably be fine.The bonus is that FLL is very close to the port. The one thing I have enjoyed about Southwest in the past is that when I have needed to change to an earlier flight they usually try very hard to accomodate my needs with little or no extra charge. Did you consider calling them to see if you can get an earlier flight, or if that is all that is available. I have had pretty good luck with them.
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That was the earliest flight. I think we'll be fine, at least I hope. It due to arrive at 1:00 don't sail until 5:00 and from what everyone says it doesn't take long to get to the cruise port from the airport.
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They never seem to be flying to or from where I am going. I used to do great with Delta.

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I have flown SWA a lot, and never had a problem. They have changed their boarding method. You can now print your boading pass, on-line, 24 hours prior to flight. At the gate, they have you "line" up according to number. You still have the option to select any seat available.

Regarding the show "Airline," I'm afraid I would have to hurt some of those passengers! The SWA staff show way more control than I would want to display!
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SWA is hard to beat for reliability and price. Have flown SWA around a hundred flights and only had luggage lost once for one hour. Biggest flight delay was about one hour. Watch for their specials, be flexible on your flight dates and by all means print your boarding pass online unless you are fond of middle seats. Folks with kiddos and who need assistance still board first.

How did SWA beat the other airlines on price? Good fuel price hedging some years back

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Southwest tickets for 1 way from St Louis to Ft. Lauderdale was $95.00 each compaired to delta at $155.00. But returning it was $209.00 so cheaper to go with another on the way back.
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Depends on your dates and routing. Since SWA affords you the luxury of visiting so many fine airports, always check to see if an SWA flight to an airport on the way + an SWA flight from that airport to your city is less. Sometimes SWA from FLL to Tampa then Tampa to SAT was cheaper than SWA FLL to SAT. You just have to comb the schedules to make your own custom flight.

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I've been flying SWA for years. Great airline really. And the staff is much more fun and relaxed than other airlines.
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Well its great to know that I don't have anything to worry about then. This is the first time that I booked airfare separate for a vacation. Always got it included. Just couldn't see paying more for someone to do it for me.
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If you always booked with your line, you may also have had luggage pulling and transfers. However, post 911 luggage pulling to the bus has gone the way of the bridge tour. You will need to make your own arrangement to get from the plane to the ship, so you might ask around for suggestions - cabs, shuttles, or sometimes the lines offer transfers (for a fee) without booking their flight. One suggestion - don't book the last flight out - do the next-to-last flight in case of cancellation or delay, or arrive the night before (preferable).

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Besides... you might want to... "Get away".
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Unless you are leaving the graces of Texas, of course. Folks here miss the state so much they made Southwest stop in Texas twice on most flights.

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I just flew SWA this weekend from WPB to Long island. Divemaster, you pointed out what I was going to report. I believe SWA secured fuel contracts a while back. My RT flight cost $150. never have had one problem with SWA.
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