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10 years ago when I build my home I purchase a 36 inch flat screen SONY TV and installed a built in BOSE sound system and installed premium cable tv with 50 channels and I thought I was "living" 8) 8) 8)

After visiting my son and my brother this past month, both of them have 60 inch flat screen with surround sound and they can receive over 600 channels

I came home and look at my "small screen 36 inch" my misely 50 channels and my meager sound system and got very depressed

how big is too big and how much is too much when it comes to your entertainment room

really looking forward to watching the Super Bowl on the "really big" screen on the Celebrity Century next January during the Smooth Music Cruise
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How big is your house? How big is your wallet? These are your only limitations. My parents have a 65 inch TV and wish they had gotten a bigger one.
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I am perfectly happy with the 32" HDTV that I now have. That's just me. I also have three 27" Sony Trinitrons throughout the house. Heck, 10 years ago they were pretty nice TV's but they sure do weigh a ton.

If you like it bigger then go for it.

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Ha. pasting below an answer I just wrote to Mike on another string. . .

I'm literally in the middle of installing my new 106-inch (16x9) projection screen in the home theater. My new hi-def projector that will fill it should be on the UPS truck tomorrow. My analog projector has given me 11 years of good service on a 100-inch (4x3) screen, but the HDMI cables are itching for something to plug into, and tomorrow they should have it.

For now I'm leaving the audio alone: Canton Karats left and right, Canton center channel, Polk surrounds, and a M&K sub.

I'm anxious to see how well my upconverting DVD player does with the new projector. I'm giving it a home run HDMI connection, so it should turn in its optimal performance. Of course, I'll eventually move to a Blu-Ray machine, which are slated to break the $200 barrier sometime after Christmas.
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Well after reading that last post, It makes my 55" Mitsu with bose surround sound seem like the old Hi-Fi I had back in the 60"s.
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I know exactly what you mean. Got a nice 40" plasma about a year an a half ago, already looking to move that downstairs and replacing it with a 46 LCD....Do we really need it, NO...The prices will have to come done a lot more before I can merit that....We do always want bigger and better....Whats with that?
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Consumerism driven by media tells us we need more and more, bigger and bigger.
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I believe its called GREED. Throw in a dash of LIVING BEYOND YOUR MEANS and MEDIA-DRIVEN OUTRAGEOUS EXPECTATIONS and you have the present crisis in housing, debt etc. in the U.S. Good enough is never enough.
Come on people, this goes so far beyond 'need'. Get outside and go for a walk. We do not need nor desire anything more than our 26 inch set without all the extras. We are in the country therefore need satellite to get any channels, but use very few of the ones available.
I think more people need to go on a philanthropic tour or mission to some really poverty stricken areas of this world to see that what we as North Americans consider necessary is so far out of the reach of two billion people in this world.
Wait a minute...most of you have seen places like that, if only a small glimpse, while you were cruising the Caribbean or Mexico.
I think you are confusing greed with a change in the way people use their homes. I say they are being more economical. I think lots of people are realizing they don't need $6000 in living room furnishings, $5000 formal dining room tables. Most people use these 2 rooms only when company comes over. Instead they are opting to enjoy their homes by putting money into the things or rooms in their home for their personal pleasure. I spend money on my family room and backyard period. Since we spend most of our time other than sleep there. Instead of filling my living room with what would come close to $6000 in furnishings for my living room I bought a $2000 pool table which gives the whole family great joy. Have no formal dining room to speak of because I went that route once before and used on Christmas day only! If I wasn't working that day. I work about 70 hrs a week. bike about 12 a day 3 times a week, take care of my children, cook, clean and take care of my yard and you are going to tell me I can't enjoy a nice television? How do you know the people posting here haven't donated money to any poor countries. We happen to donate to the Christian childrens fund. Ever heard of fruits of your labor? Hey if we didn't buy those TV's maybe some of those $3 per hour workers wouldn't have a job. Tell me what size TV is appropriate? how much should one spend? is your TV one of those black and white 4" screens caiuse with your logic anything above that is a waste. Let me know what our government stops sending aid to foreign countries ad maybe I will throw in a few more bucks. Everyone to AR's house for the Superbowl!
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I currently have a 32", flat screen HD ready one and I am happy with it. IF... a huge if... I had stayed in my 3700'+ house in the Woodlands (north of Houston) I was going install a screen that disappeared into the ceiling and install an overhead projector for the picture. Of course, wireless surround theatre sound as well. But, I sold the house before I got that far.
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Anywho, I had a huge behemoth rear projection big screen TV for years. Last year it started getting a fuzzy picture, nothing majorly awful, but definitely was not sharp, and at times it was somewhat annoying to watch. So I took it apart and wiped down the large mirror and the lenses. Tried to get rid of as much dust and stuff on the inside of it as possible, which helped, but didn't completely solve the problems. So I hunted high and low and finally ended up with an Hi-Def projector, probably a low end version of what AR is sporting in his home theatre. This thing rocks and it actually cost less than another big screen TV. The picture is much clearer and it suites our needs just fine. If I want a bigger picture, I just move the projector further out.

During Christmas time we had all the neighbors over for drinks and we found a Christmas DVD that had Christmas Music and had a Beautiful cozy fire burning in a fireplace. It made a very festive and cozy atmosphere while we sipped wine and nog by the light of the fire, and sang carols.

We saved the old TV, and now we use it toplay the Wii. It's just fine for that.
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Well now I feel hopelessly inadequate with my measly little 26" TV tucked into my tiny 3 ft wide wall unit in my small living room, but hey, you gotta work with what you got!
I don't watch a lot of TV anyway, so what do I need with behemoth ones that wouldn't fit in my rooms anyway?

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You're right, I don't 'need' the 26 inch either.
I have already apologized so I will bow out.
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Looks like I put my foot in it this time I realize that the list looks like a lot and we are very grateful for the opportunity to cruise now that we are empty nesters. There has been NO time for holidays through the summer months so if we want to enjoy some sun we have to chase it in January. Yes we have done 10 cruises in 7 years, but they are the first holidays we have had in about 30 years. Also get the cheapest room and a bargain deal. We work ungodly hours for the other 50 weeks of the year. Have also worked in a Mexican orphanage, Haitian hospital, building projects etc. in 3rd world countries. Not saying these people (with huge TV's)don't give generously also. I think perhaps the time I have spent in desperately poor areas makes my mouth work faster than my brain sometimes when it comes to spending. Sorry to anyone I offended.
Having said all that in my defense, I was only pointing out that the consumerism in North America is not healthy IMO. I do agree with the thoughts expressed by Rescuedad I think, that priority spending may be happening.
So what you are saying to Rescuedad is never judge another person until you have walking in their shoes. However, you are still including mass generalizes in you post. "consumerism in North America is not healthy." It all depends on you view. If you make a living from the builting or/and selling TVs then consumerism is how you pay your bills.

If someone buys a 105 inch TV with cash are they greedy because they bought the TV? WHich size is to big? Who decides the magic number? My impression of AR is someone who understands finance and can explain the difference between a stock and a bond, an ETF and a Mutual Fund, and Large CAP VS Small CAP companies to name a few. If AR can afford a big TV who are we to tell him "no". He enjoys good movies and wants to see them on a big screen I say good for him.
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gee..and it all this great debate started with my little comment about how technology has advanced in only 10 years ...if the price of gas keeps going up all of us will be staying home alot more and looking for ways to entertain in our homes...10 years ago a 36 inch tv was a "huge" tv, now days it's not
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3 years ago NOBODY this side of cool would be caught dead in an electric car. Now, they are looking pretty sweet. Just build it.
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While certainly modest compared with AR's, and a few other's, my "home theatre" is wonderful!

I can watch any movie I want, when I want, in surround sound. I can sit in my comfortable recliner -- and my feet don't stick to the floor.

I can pause the movie, when nature calls, and not miss a second of the movie.

I spend $3.99 at Blockbuster for the movie. I can get a 2-litre bottle of Coke for $1.50 at the grocery store, and all the popcorn I can pop for $3.00.

And if I want an adult beverage -- or three -- I can do that too!

So why in the world would anyone ever go to a movie theatre...........???

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I am really in the dark ages. I just have 2 19" tv's one in the bedroom the other in the living room. One has the digital box and I love the music choices I get with that. The other just has cable. The price was right on both sets. they were given to me. For the amount of tv I watch I really do not need anything more than that.

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Laura..you are my type of person..I still have my 19 inch color tv that my parents gave me when I went away to college during the 1960's and it still works just fine..thank you

Mean Dean..in my little town there is a $1.50 movie place that shows 1st run movies. $2.00 popcorn and it was built in the 1940's....all my friends go to t he "big city" and pay $10 per ticket and $5 popcorn...best kept secret in New Orleans
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I guess you need something that fits the size of the room but doesn't overwhelm it, priced at what you feel comfortable with. Our tv is a couple of years old. We upgraded to a flatscreen - about 36 inches I guess. The living room is small, and anything bigger would have just seem out of place. It was costly for us, but considering we seldom go to the movies, out to eat or travel much (college years) it is our main source of entertainment so we felt okay purchasing the tv and sound system.

Theres no right or wrong really, just have to base it on your personal tastes, needs and wallet. And no matter what you get it is almost certain as soon as it is purchased and installed you will see something else you think you would like better!
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Sorry I went a little off topic. Let's talking about the recliner I should bring over to AR's house to watch the World Cup on this TV. I was thinking about this beauty. It's got drink holders.

Shoot better yet this Lazyboy recliner has a Beverage Cooler in the arm, plus a massager.
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I believe its called GREED. Throw in a dash of LIVING BEYOND YOUR MEANS and MEDIA-DRIVEN OUTRAGEOUS EXPECTATIONS and you have the present crisis in housing, debt etc. in the U.S. Good enough is never enough.
Come on people, this goes so far beyond 'need'. Get outside and go for a walk. We do not need nor desire anything more than our 26 inch set without all the extras. We are in the country therefore need satellite to get any channels, but use very few of the ones available.
I think more people need to go on a philanthropic tour or mission to some really poverty stricken areas of this world to see that what we as North Americans consider necessary is so far out of the reach of two billion people in this world.
Wait a minute...most of you have seen places like that, if only a small glimpse, while you were cruising the Caribbean or Mexico.
Let's all don sackcloth and ashes and move into a tarpaper shack to make propitiation for having the nerve to buy luxury goods that we neither deserve or need!

By the way you don't "need" the 26 inch TV either . :evil:
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Bring 'em on, Kat.

For the record, anybody who's not offended by a guy with 106" is welcome to visit the TransLux anytime they're in the neighborhood.

Also for the record, the new rig was purchased for cash, as Kat rightly assumed. What's more, I tracked the gear I wanted online, waited for sales and big rebates to show up, then jumped on the deals--no tax, no shipping. Finally, I'm doing the installation myself, just as I did with the first two iterations of the TransLux in the same space, dating back to the film days in the 1970's. Fortunately, I'm handy enough and technically capable enough to do it. I come by that more or less honestly, since before I retired my business was film and TV production. Do-it-yourself installation of a system like this, obviously, saves a lot of money.

Kat, I think it's possible that in saying that "consumerism is not healthy," kd may have been talking about the unwise use of credit (this based on kd's first post). If that's so, I agree, and I know you do too. But you're absolutely correct in saying that what may be true in general terms does not automatically apply to every individual circumstance.

See you at the movies. I was going to post a photo when I get it all up and running, but now I'm afraid I'll get flamed if I do.

For those who really want to see conspicuous consumption in home theaters, I recommend the coffee table book called Private Theaters, which showcases the work of the nation's foremost architect of home theaters, Theo Kalomirakis. To retain the services of Mr. Kalomirakis, folks pay a $30,000 up front fee for consultation, and then actually move on with the work. Total tabs for his home theaters run well into six figures, sometimes as much as seven.

Me, I keep the book in the TransLux so guests can pick their favorite Kalomirakis theater. Then we turn out the lights and run a movie, which looks pretty much like they look in his theaters. The book really is worth a look if you can find a copy.
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AR please post the pictures I want to see the finished product. I'm a movie freak and would love my own home theater. Since I can't pay for it in cash I can't afford it. So I need to live through your home theater.
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I'm in the dark ages, too, with a 32-inch Sony in the living room and a 36 in the family room. Great big heavy things they are, too. I've always wanted a 42-inch flat screen in the family room. That all the bigger the room would handle. I have a nice stero, but it's old. I am happy with it. We looked at a beautiful home in a retirement community that had a great room and a wonderful "frame" above the fireplace for a flat screen.

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Oooo Kat! I have sat in chairs like those and they are coooomfooootabllllllleeeee.
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heck i have a 37 inch lcd flat screen that i rarely use since i would rather read. my son however loves it and its was a great deal. as for a bumping sound system that i could use. however i would probably have the cops at my door every other day.
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Does anyone agree with my thoughts on how people are changing how they use their home? do you have that expensive living room set or dining room that is only used on holidays? When I buy something for my home it is for family enjoyment. Remember the living room sets that people use to put slipcovers over? Never understood that.

AR if we are talking about the TV being 106" I'm in if not than I pass
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RescueDad...I agree....when I built my home 10 years ago instead of a living room, the model called for a great room which serves multi purposes..I would have no use for a separate dining room
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