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Old September 23rd, 2008, 11:47 AM
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Old September 23rd, 2008, 12:46 PM
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I fi guess correctly on the first try I spoil all the fun - so I don't think it is Dover, England.
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I think it is and if I'm correct, I'll take your "by" as the first one who is (even if I ain't)!

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Old September 23rd, 2008, 02:57 PM
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Hey: I've been there.



Dover, England seawall.

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Well when I saw the picture all I could think of was white cliffs of Dover.
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I have like half a picture..how could you know?
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Okay all you knowledgeable folks. What substance makes the "White Cliffs of Dover white. And no fair looking it up on the computer (unless you admit to it). Hint it's found in many but not the majority of homes and if you're in law enforcement, it's found in certain types of chemical agent riot control devices.

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Yes it does look like the white cliffs of Dover.
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Old September 23rd, 2008, 08:35 PM
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Okay all you knowledgeable folks. What substance makes the "White Cliffs of Dover white. And no fair looking it up on the computer (unless you admit to it). Hint it's found in many but not the majority of homes and if you're in law enforcement, it's found in certain types of chemical agent riot control devices.

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It's an easy one. Limestone or lime. We have many such "White Cliffs" along the bluffs of the Minnesota and St. Croix rivers, here in Minnesota.

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Mike,

Unless a very learned individual some years ago misinformed me, I think you'll find it's diatomaceous earth, consisting of the fossilized remnants of ancient algae. Similar in consistency to talcum powder but much lighter, it is often used in swimming pool filtrations systems.

Some anti riot grenades deliver Orthocholorbenzalmalononitrile most commonly referred to as CS, an irritant agent which, while a completely different compound, has much the same basic effects (only far more severe) as does Chrolocetaphenone (CN), or "Tear Gas." While usually referred to as a gas (because the chemical is often delivered in the form of smoke (microscopic crystals of CS attach themselves to smoke particles -- hence the misnomer "gas") the chemical can also be desposited on Diatomaceous earth and the dust containing the agent is explosively delivered by grenade and/or projectiles fired from gas guns. It can also be sprayed as a liquid. Just to add some insight, while far more severe in effect, CS in accepted quantities is far far less lethal than CN, which can be lethal in enclosed areas in comparatively small concentrations.

If you were in the military, you were exposed to it in Basic Training (but in far less of a concentration than we used to use in our Department's recruit training).

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Todd,

Now I had to look it up and I stand on my previous statement. There are some invalid claims that the Cliffs of Dover are diatomaceous earth but they are limestone.

Here is a one quote from this link:

http://froebuck.home.texas.net/toppage7.htm

"Lastly, the white cliffs of Dover are large deposits of cocolithic limestone (commonly known as chalk) and are composed almost entirely of calcium carbonate. They’re certainly not diatomaceous earth. Nor are they any sort of volcanic dust. But, then, neither is diatomaceous earth."

While limestone is the remnants of ancient coral and other sea life, it isn't the same as DE.

There are a number of other links that show the composition of the Cliffs as Limestone and flint.

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I stand corrected. Although I had also had read they were limestone, the individual who told me they were diotamaceous earth was a college history professor who dabbled heavily into such subjects and I had no reason to question him.

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Gosh folks------I had no idea that my picture of the WHITE CLIFFS OF DOVER. would bring about the above thoroughly discussion of the subject. But it is fun to read, listen and watch all the facts.

I gotta find a picture that I took that will baffle you guys. So many of you have either been there or able to research the subject. Well maybe I can find one that will not be too easy. Ain't we having fun?
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I'm sure everyone can guess where I took this picture of another well known formation of calcium carbonate. I took it in 1952 when I was stationed at a nearby proving ground.



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I stand corrected. Although I had also had read they were limestone, the individual who told me they were diotamaceous earth was a college history professor who dabbled heavily into such subjects and I had no reason to question him.

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