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Trip January 2nd, 2009 08:50 AM

Carnival employee falls overboard
 
This Carnival entertainer fell overboard, as his coworkers watched.... A tragic story...

http://news.aol.com/article/cruise-s...892x1201072648

Donna January 2nd, 2009 09:25 AM

I was just reading about this, how horrible!

Thomas January 2nd, 2009 10:25 AM

Why can't they just extend a net around the perimeter of the ship while it's underway?

Regards,
Thomas

ToddDH January 2nd, 2009 02:12 PM

Thomas,

If someone is going to do something stupid, they'll do it with or without a net. From the latest I read (and again, this is "news" and not confirmed) the man wasn't a crew member but an entertainer who was taking photographs. Evidently he tried to get a unique vantage and his desire for a good picture overrode his common sense.

Tragic? Absolutely! Easily avoidable? Of course. That's the same thing as (on another thread) the youngster talking on his cell phone to his dad, dropping the phone and then, while looking for it, being killed when his car plowed into a tree. That too was tragic .... and just as avoidable.

Todd

Dave the Wave January 2nd, 2009 03:36 PM

More on the subject....

http://www.cruisemates.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=604350

VTJen January 2nd, 2009 09:08 PM

Yikes!

Thomas January 3rd, 2009 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToddDH
Thomas,

If someone is going to do something stupid, they'll do it with or without a net. From the latest I read (and again, this is "news" and not confirmed) the man wasn't a crew member but an entertainer who was taking photographs. Evidently he tried to get a unique vantage and his desire for a good picture overrode his common sense.

Tragic? Absolutely! Easily avoidable? Of course. That's the same thing as (on another thread) the youngster talking on his cell phone to his dad, dropping the phone and then, while looking for it, being killed when his car plowed into a tree. That too was tragic .... and just as avoidable.

Todd

Most of the time the victim is drunk and walking on the railing showing off or being idiotic. Extending a net around the perimeter of the ship parallel to the water about 8 ft. out would catch most of these fools. It would also catch the occasional spouse who is pushed.

Regards,
Thomas

ToddDH January 3rd, 2009 07:46 AM

Thomas,

Of course your suggestion is possible but let's look at it in another light.

Probably less than ten die each year from going overboard from a CLIA associated cruise ship. During that same period, somewhere in the neighborhood of over thirteen MILLION passengers sailed on those ships.

To put a viable net system that could survive the many types of weather not to mention the occaisional storm even a cruise ship encounters would probably cost well in excess of 1,000,000 dollars per vessel.

A hugely larger percentage jump or fall from bridges throughout this country. Over sixty people alone jump from the Golden Gate every year and because of that extreme number, they are going to put a net costing millions of dollars around that bridge. But to my knowledge, that is the only bridge in the entire country with such a protective system planned.

Using your justification, we would be far better served to install nets under or around virtually every single highway bridge in this country; place netting around every building over two stories tall that has balconies or terraces; place crossing barriers at every single rail crossing in the country and this, is just to name a few of probably literally thousands of protective ideas that could be done that would protect an equal or even far greater percentage ratio of people.

In light of the above, I think you'll agree with me while yes, such a system is possible, it is just not feasible.

Todd

Todd


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