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Old January 15th, 2009, 05:24 PM
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This just happened, we are hoping they are able to get everyone out safely.
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A US Airways plane crashed into the Hudson River on Thursday afternoon after striking a bird that disabled two engines, sending passengers fleeing for safety in the frigid waters, a government official says. Federal Aviation Administration spokeswoman Laura Brown says the US Airways Flight 1549 had just taken off from LaGuardia Airport enroute to Charlotte, N.C., when the crash occurred in the river near 48th Street in midtown Manhattan.

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Think of all the people that are not going to make their cruise; half of them will blame the cruise line.

40% will blame the airline...

10% will blame the government for banning hunting of Canadian Geese!

Just think, if Canadians could keep their geese in Canada, all of these people would make it to their cruise on time.
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From everything I have just heard, the pilot is a hero...thankfully no fatalities......yayayyayay for all of them!
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Darn birds!! What a way to go for a swim!
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The good news is that everybody who was aboard the plane (two pilots, three flight attendants, and 150 passengers) are safe.

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Wow, that was something to see on TV. I know this area well! The pilots, staff and passengers certainly were all hero's handling everything so well. Just wonderful to see every one well.
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An incredibly talented and heroic pilot and crew. Likely thanks to them, the passengers maintained their composure, and the plane didn't break up on impact.

It could have easily been SO much worse.
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knowing Jake was in the air this afternoon, this sure was something that hit home. All I can say is that it is a miracle that this turned out so well. The pilots and the crew are to be highly commended for all that they did to bring about the results that we have seen. It is also amazing that the efforts of those in NY who helped in the rescue were so incredible. Gives you a lot of faith in what people can do when such tragic situations occur.

Thank God that all involved have survived.

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Old January 15th, 2009, 10:26 PM
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Saw this while at work...

Glad everyone made it out safely and I'm happy the pilot(s) was/were able to make the landing he did. But I can't imagine how cold that water was, or what everyone that saw the plane going down was thinking in NY today...
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Robin Roberts fromGood Morning America, saw it all happen from her aparment by the river. Can you imagine!!
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Yet another front page testimonial to the outstanding training, courage, commitment and teamwork of New York and New Jersey Emergency & Rescue personnel and of the crews of all the water craft both public and private, that routinely ply those waters. God Bless 'em, they're beyond a shadow of a doubt, among the very best the world has to offer.

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I think two pilots will get to keep their jobs. They correctly did everything they could have done.

Pilots for all carriers train for all types of emergencies, they even "assume" they will lose an engine on every takeoff but bringing this aircraft in, dead stick, after losing both engines, power and the hydraulics turning into 100 lb. weights, is truly outstanding.

Good job!
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I think the mayor said it all:
"We've had A Miracle on 34th Street, now we've had a Miracle on the Hudson!"

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Absolutely a miracle! That flight crew did an outstanding job bringing the plane down and handling the evacuation in such a professional manner. Thank God!
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Here is a follow up article on the pilot. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090116/...in_river_pilot Hey he is form Danville California I cut hair in the area for a couple of years. I wonder if I cut his hair?

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The pilot of Flight 1549 was Chesley B. "Sully" Sullenberger III, 57, of Danville, Calif., an official familiar with the accident told The Associated Press. Sullenberger is a former fighter pilot who runs a safety consulting firm in addition to flying commercial aircraft.
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Wow, what a miracle. I'm a Sox fan but I love New York....thank God they are all safe. Fantastic pilots.......heros to us all.
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Until I saw the pics, I just couldn't imagine this, what a pilot :-)
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This was indeed a miracle. The pilots did a great job and I'm sure his consulting business will soar! Good for him! I would get on his plane anytime!

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Neil Cavuto just interviewed a passenger who is married and has 3 1/2 yr. old twins. An erudite and impressive individual, he is just the latest impressive example of the type of people who were aboard that aircraft. Probably the last passenger to leave the plane (he was all the way in the rear), before going forward he started tossing seat cushions and inflatable life preservers forward for those exiting onto the wings, correctly believing that those folks may have exited in such a hurry, they didn't give a thought that they may well need them -- all this with the water rising around him rather quickly.

The whole affair is steeped in heroism by all and at all levels. That most definitely includes the passengers themselves.

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Yes, and so are the master and crew of the NY Waterway ferry MV Thomas Jefferson, which had just departed from the slip in Manhatten when the emergency landing occurred. The master, who was on the bridge of his ferry, upon seeing the plane land, headed straight for it to rescue the survivors. His ferry, the first vessel to arrive at the scene, took on many of the passengers and, observing that some of them were wet, guided them "below decks" to heated spaces aboard the ferry. That action likely saved several peoples' limbs from freezing and thus requiring amputation.

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CNN is airing video of the plane landing in the river. Cuodos to the pilots.

Dave the Wave - you dont want to be swimming in the Hudson River. As a former EMT in NYC, its NASTY!!!!!!!!!
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Hudson River is the sewer of New York.
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A totally amazing event from start to finish. Lots of pilots would NOT have had the presence of mind

Now, if someone suggests we eradicate a few geese in the area. Watch the enviros howl! In the Denver area at least, more and more Canada Geese don't really migrate any more they just hang around, year round. I don't think smaller birds have much effect on fan-jets, but a goose is another matter.
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A totally amazing event from start to finish. Lots of pilots would NOT have had the presence of mind

Now, if someone suggests we eradicate a few geese in the area. Watch the enviros howl! In the Denver area at least, more and more Canada Geese don't really migrate any more they just hang around, year round. I don't think smaller birds have much effect on fan-jets, but a goose is another matter.
We have the same problem in Connecticut, The geese stay all year round and they pollute our lakes and mess up our city parks.

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A totally amazing event from start to finish. Lots of pilots would NOT have had the presence of mind

Now, if someone suggests we eradicate a few geese in the area. Watch the enviros howl! In the Denver area at least, more and more Canada Geese don't really migrate any more they just hang around, year round.
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I don't think smaller birds have much effect on fan-jets, but a goose is another matter.
We have the same problem in Connecticut, The geese stay all year round and they pollute our lakes and mess up our city parks.

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Small birds caused a deadly crash n Boston in 1960

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Totally different kind of Aircraft however.
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A totally amazing event from start to finish. Lots of pilots would NOT have had the presence of mind

Now, if someone suggests we eradicate a few geese in the area. Watch the enviros howl! In the Denver area at least, more and more Canada Geese don't really migrate any more they just hang around, year round. I don't think smaller birds have much effect on fan-jets, but a goose is another matter.
We have the same problem in Connecticut, The geese stay all year round and they pollute our lakes and mess up our city parks.

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OK, many people tell me their Canada Geese stay all year.......at which point do they become USA Geese??

My Sam is in NDT and see's very often the damage done by birds as he inspects the damaged gear/engines and re inspects the part after repair.

He said to me that small birds, especially large numbers of them do in fact cause damage, but often the engines can be repaired, however, the engines of planes brought down by a large bird, they are totalled and cannot be repaired. he said the damge from them, because the bones are larger and stronger is incredible.
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Nope, they are still Canada Geese .
I think your friend is right. I once saw a video of the FAA shooting thawed turkey carcasses into the huge fanjet that powers a B777 the engine did not explode and the titanium turbine blades remained intact, although severe damage was done! This is a problem that little can be done about. There was an article in the Denver post the other day in the wake of the Hudson River crash about the US Fish and Wildlife people having three dedicated employees shose job it is to keep geese and ducks aways from Denver International Airport. I had the impression they even shoot them if necessary.
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