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Old January 29th, 2009, 12:37 PM
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Thanks so much for the article about Royal Caribbean; we are stock holders in this company and yes, the price of this stock has gone sharply down since we purchased it. Everything in the market goes in a cycle and we have confidence, that when the business cycle picks up for Royal Caribbean, so will the price of their stock. Just look at the price of Royal Caribbean now as a "buying opportunity".
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couldn't over-extension and over-capacity and 'over-everything' have something to do with it? maybe bigger may not be better, if you can't fill the thing. not the same, of course, but tons of retail stores and chains and department stores have bitten the bullet through overextension. i mean, even starbucks is closing more than 300 stores. and check cruise line history about some lines closing because of not filling 'bunks.' i just think the 'megaship' trend has reached diminishing returns.
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I'm right there with your thinking....

There are way too many stores closing Circuit City, my favorite place. So sad...

It just has to get better. We need places to shop and cruises to take.

I don't mind less passengers on a ship.... shorter lines, more slots and more seating in the lounges and shows.

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well, redwich, thank you for your reply, and the fact that we agree. i suspect that over the next two or three years, cruises will become more affordable given the lack of demand and the very high capacity, especially on the mass market cruise lines, and especially on rcl, carnival, and ncl. these are huge, new ships -- like the oasis - that need to be filled to make a profit; and that margin is not large. on the other side of the legder, i expect service and food to diminish in quality -- something is going to have to go. it is just 'business.' just how far down can it go without a cruise line losing its repeat business? these are spirals which will be interesting to watch. are passengers on these lines, and on celebrity and princess and hal for that matter, willing to give up full room service, laundry facilities, hot hor's d, and on and on -- no flower d
isplays, no cloth towels in the restrooms, etc. will we be satisfied with 'econo cruises.? and on and on. it could happen. what is your opinion? do we cruise at all costs, or all lack of amenities?
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I do love the perks of a cruise...all the comforts, let's say.

I would cruise without some of these....I will just have to think of which ones I would give up...if I had to.

Gives many reason to really think about that:

If we had a list of what we would/could lose and then what we would not like to see go because of cutting costs, that would help passangers.
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It's not that RCCL is in trouble it's our whole economic system that has collapsed. We are all in trouble. People are losing their jobs ain very large numbers, and those of us close to retirement age will probably not have any pensions. Social security may not be ther for us and our investments are almost worhless.

I hope things improve, but I don't see any light at the end of the tunnel.

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sounds lika a vote for hope and change. Hope and change is what got us in this mess. Everyone deserves to be a homeowner? I love cruising and can afford it,however I am not booking any until there is some resolve in our government that addresses economic stability. The bail-outs are not comforting me in the least. I hope the service on the cruiselines do not suffer and we all ride this storm out....MD
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Mountain Dog, I guess I am in the same place you are as far as the uncertainties about our economy. While we can still afford to cruise, I find myself thinking that this next cruise we take will be the last for a while. Course with the deals in cruising right now and possibly in the near future that might not be the wisest decision. I'm just at a wait and see point right now.

As far as cut backs on amenities that go along with cruising, I wouldn't want to see too much taken away. Just being on the sea probably wouldn't be enough incentive for me.

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Manuel, truer words could not be said; with so many companies laying off workers, workers have less disposable income. It is my believe that the cruise lines would rather fill a ship with a passanger that pays a discount price for a cruise than to leave a cabin empty. Right now it is a "buyers market" for those that can afford to cruise.
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I think RCI is getting a bit dillusional, perhaps thinking too much of themselves.

CEO Richard Fein said they would rather sail with empty cabins then discount them too heavily. It could get interesting if he "sees the light" too late.

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Now you know why I bought Carnival stock (that stock price is down to as is the whole market). RCCL ships are so big I was worried what would happen if they couldn't fill them. If RCCL goes away that leaves the market for Carnival. More likely Carnival will buy an interest in RCCL and kept cruising under that brand the way they did with Princess.
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Now you know why I bought Carnival stock (that stock price is down to as is the whole market). RCCL ships are so big I was worried what would happen if they couldn't fill them. If RCCL goes away that leaves the market for Carnival. More likely Carnival will buy an interest in RCCL and kept cruising under that brand the way they did with Princess.
Carnival will also have trouble filling their ships with so many people losing their jobs. Las Vegas is full of empty rooms and here in Ct, our casinos businees is way down. Untill the economy improves it will be tough on all vacation related activities.

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Manuel, you are right when you said that Carnival also, will have trouble filling their cabins. This economy has affected people in all economic walks of life. The clientele that travel on Silversea, Crystal, Regent, and Peter Dehlmann will cruise, but some will drop down a notch to Princess, Celebrity or Royal Caribbean. The cruise industry will rebound as the economy picks up. If you look at past business cycles, this weak economy is just temporary; it will pick up, it's just a matter of when!
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Perhaps I am not looking at the right dates, cruiseline, or travel agent, but I have not seen the so-called "good deals' that everyone says are available. The cruise I wanted to take in September has been cancelled, and two others I am considering are not getting any cheaper now than when I first glanced at them in November.
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Carnival Corp. with all its brands, has more berths to fill than RCI, so it would be foolish to assume they won't be affected.

The only difference I've seen from there is most of their brands started discounting sooner.

The cruise industry went through similar problems after 9/11/01, and had to give away cabins to weather the storm, and carry on. And thankfully came through it strong, eventually.

The only thing was, many of the changes and cut backs put in place during that time were left in place as business improved. If they apply the same model.... more discounts, more cutbacks, and once again leaving the changes in place, eventually they'll all be E Z cruise, where you pay extra for bedding, meals, etc.
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To garner a good deal, in cruise travel, you must be flexible. Any cruise agent will tell you to travel in the "shoulder season" or the "off season". Also, to save money on a cruise, book an inside cabin on a lower deck. You will pay more not only for an outside cabin but also, the higher the deck on the ship. Don't be rigid as far as where you want to go, the more flexible you are the more you will save. Remember, cruiselines want to fill their ships, even if a customer is paying less than the advertised price!
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I guess that is my problem, "flexability". I had assumed that I could get a discount on what I wanted to purchase and not just on what was offered. I don't find anything special about this concept, to me it is like wanting to buy a new Lexus, but being offered a used Pinto. Just because it is cheaper does not inspire me to purchase it. I want what I want.
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I think RCI is getting a bit dillusional, perhaps thinking too much of themselves.

CEO Richard Fein said they would rather sail with empty cabins then discount them too heavily. It could get interesting if he "sees the light" too late.

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/cruis...=62104126.blog
I agree Kuki, I noticed a big drop in service and food in my last RCI cruise. The cuts are painfully obvious to previous RCI cruises.

Some retailers took RCIs attitude about price cuts this past holiday season and took a larger than average hit to the bottom line.

RCI is playing with fire and will get burned.
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I think RCI is getting a bit dillusional, perhaps thinking too much of themselves.

CEO Richard Fein said they would rather sail with empty cabins then discount them too heavily. It could get interesting if he "sees the light" too late.

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/cruis...=62104126.blog
I agree Kuki, I noticed a big drop in service and food in my last RCI cruise. The cuts are painfully obvious to previous RCI cruises.

Some retailers took RCIs attitude about price cuts this past holiday season and took a larger than average hit to the bottom line.

RCI is playing with fire and will get burned.
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Phyll, I too want to book right away but am very uneasy and my gut tells me that what is actually taking place economically here at home as well as around the world is unprecedented. I hope it is a cycle as Balabusta assumes but I have a more ominous view. Printing money will lead to inflation and we are spending more now in the name of solvency then any other time in our history.I am not trying to be an alarmist and I believe in a higher power but people should prepare themselves for a rough ride. Cruising I believe still affords one a good bang for thier buck as far as vacations go. I just need to shore up other aspects in my life and have faith....MD
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Phyll, I too want to book right away but am very uneasy and my gut tells me that what is actually taking place economically here at home as well as around the world is unprecedented. I hope it is a cycle as Balabusta assumes but I have a more ominous view. Printing money will lead to inflation and we are spending more now in the name of solvency then any other time in our history.I am not trying to be an alarmist and I believe in a higher power but people should prepare themselves for a rough ride. Cruising I believe still affords one a good bang for thier buck as far as vacations go. I just need to shore up other aspects in my life and have faith....MD
You are not alone in your worries about the economy. You are also not alone in being uneasy about booking a cruise in the current economy. While the prices are very good I am hesitant to spend money travelling that I know I should be putting away just in case things get worse. I have faith that I will be able to survive no matter what but I am concerned about feeling guilty if things do get bad and I've spent a significant buffer on cruising. I don't know what the solution is to finding a balance between the economy and my addiction to cruising. There has to be a way.
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I can understand everybody fears about the world economy. Remember what Franklin Delano Roosevelt said when he was inaugerated as president for his first term in office, "the only thing we have to fear is fear itself". One can't live in fear of "what ifs". Rob and I are not wealthy; in order to cruise, we watch our spending in other areas. Who needs to go to Starbucks a couple of times a week and when we cruise, we usually pay for an inside cabin on a lower deck, preferably in the "shoulder" or "off" season. I have learned that where there is a will, there is a way to pay for my cruise addiction!
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I think RCI is getting a bit dillusional, perhaps thinking too much of themselves.

CEO Richard Fein said they would rather sail with empty cabins then discount them too heavily. It could get interesting if he "sees the light" too late.

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/cruis...=62104126.blog
I agree Kuki, I noticed a big drop in service and food in my last RCI cruise. The cuts are painfully obvious to previous RCI cruises.

Some retailers took RCIs attitude about price cuts this past holiday season and took a larger than average hit to the bottom line.

RCI is playing with fire and will get burned.
I disagree, I have taken 2 RCI cruises in the last 4 months and I saw a marked increase in the service and food quality. I had pillow mints and all the ammenities I've come to expect from RCI. Yes, some more little nickle and diming was noticed, but the service and food quality were better in my humble opinion.
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My DW and I love to cruise as much as anybody, but cruising is an option we can survive without. Buying food and paying our utilities and taxes is not something that we can stop doing.

As more and more people loose their jobs, there will many who will have to choose between paying their bills or go on a cruise.
The cruiselines can only discount their prices so much or they will go under.
I don't know what the answer is, but we are all deep (stuff).

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Let’s face reality; the world economy is in the crapper.

Yet, we cruisers represent the very essence of optimism and hope. It’s either that, or we’re just not very bright.

We just don’t want to quit cruising. It doesn’t matter if our retirement funds are half of what they were a year ago, or if we’ve just lost our jobs. What is important to us is whether we get a free cabin upgrade.

I’m certainly as guilty as anyone, if not more so. We leave for a cruise this week, so while my stock portfolio continues to sink, I’ll be afloat,

I have to be honest, the economy has put a certain amount of strain on my marriage too. The added financial difficulties have been a strain, and created a situation where Mrs. Kuki and I haven’t really been getting along that well. However, she does such a great job handling all the luggage, which saves me money on tips for the porters, so I’m still taking her along. Rather than a companion, I consider taking her along a cost cutting measure.

We’ve been trying to come up with other ways to save money.

This week I purchased 9 new pair of underwear at a damaged goods liquidation center. I didn’t think it would matter if they had the elastic waste bands or not. Now they’re packed, and I’m good to last the 30 days we’re away. In fact if the weather cooperates and there are enough sunny days by the pool that I can spend in a swimsuit, I may come home with some still in their packaging.

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Kuki you do make me laugh! But while your story about underwear may or may not be true I must say that we too have had our fair share of creative ways to ensure that there would always be funds available for cruising. For instance my kids are well versed in knowing that every time we see a movie in the theatre the cost represents 1 day of cruising for one person. Needless to say they are content with rental videos. We don't buy coffee ever at Starbucks or even at our National Treasure Tim Horton's because every stop there represents a days worth of tips for one person on a cruise. I don't know if I can convince my husband to wear underwear without a waistband just for the cause but we can try.

Right now, we're trying to cut back, even on cruising just to be able to weather the storm but I don't think we'll have to go without for too long. I don't think any of us can really handle it.
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Let’s face reality; the world economy is in the crapper.

Yet, we cruisers represent the very essence of optimism and hope. It’s either that, or we’re just not very bright.

We just don’t want to quit cruising. It doesn’t matter if our retirement funds are half of what they were a year ago, or if we’ve just lost our jobs. What is important to us is whether we get a free cabin upgrade.

I’m certainly as guilty as anyone, if not more so. We leave for a cruise this week, so while my stock portfolio continues to sink, I’ll be afloat,

I have to be honest, the economy has put a certain amount of strain on my marriage too. The added financial difficulties have been a strain, and created a situation where Mrs. Kuki and I haven’t really been getting along that well. However, she does such a great job handling all the luggage, which saves me money on tips for the porters, so I’m still taking her along. Rather than a companion, I consider taking her along a cost cutting measure.

We’ve been trying to come up with other ways to save money.

This week I purchased 9 new pair of underwear at a damaged goods liquidation center. I didn’t think it would matter if they had the elastic waste bands or not. Now they’re packed, and I’m good to last the 30 days we’re away. In fact if the weather cooperates and there are enough sunny days by the pool that I can spend in a swimsuit, I may come home with some still in their packaging.

Now working on still further ideas for cost cutting measures.
Kuki I apreciate your comments and we all need to work together to get this economy going again.
I am sad for people like my son who is legally blind but has allways managed to get a job, but now the company he was working for went under and there is not even a place for him to try to apply for work.

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Kuki, you made a good point Carnival is discounting. I received four discount offers from princess just this morning. We have made a lot of plans, but the savings will at least force me to consider a change from RCCL to Princess for our May Baltic cruise. They will have to start discounting to fill up that new monster they are building. Mike
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Mike, with this tough worldwide economic downturn, cruiselines will have to discount the price of cruises in order to stay in business. Cruiselines have done this before; right after September 11th, there were big discounts. We ended up booking a seven day inside passage cruise to Alaska for about $600 a piece on Celebrity's Infinity. It's not just cruiselines that are adjusting their prices; we saved about $1,600 yesterday when we had a new heat pump installed. It was a small local company that came to our house. Rob had worked with the owner's wife. The owner, of the company, told Rob that he had to cut his labor costs due to the economic downturn, in order to stay in business.
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