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Old April 8th, 2009, 08:44 PM
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I am so sympathetic for the man in this article. I honestly feel that the cabin attendant made a really serious error in judgement, knowiwng the aisle was blocked ...what do you think...imagine flying home from a wonderful cruise, and having your vacation end this way.....

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I feel sorry for the guy.
I think that passengers deserve some respect.

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I think I would have told the attendant that I have to go--period. Now in about 5-6 seconds, you can tell me to use the bathroom or the floor--which do you want me to do? The monkey would have been on her back as I would have simply followed her instructions !
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This makes me extremely mad.
I think using a restroom when in need is just a human right - and that we pay plenty of money, so we should have access to another bathroom if we are in dire need, if the other bathroom is unavailable.

I mean if I was flying in another class and someone came in to use the bathroom I would not have a problem with it - I have had colon issues and I know the humiliation of having to go to extreme lengths to get to bathrooms.

Thinks like this make me hate people basically - I know that is strong language - maybe it is just my mood today.
But really- if they are suspicious of the man then escort him/her.

Sorry - about my tirade. I can't explain why this has just made me so mad. Guess I better not have a second cup of coffee.
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Seem "over the top" to me. It appears the pilot had a bit of common sense, but IMO he should have come to the aid of the passenger once on the ground as well. I'm assuming that the passenger really didn't attack the flight attendant.

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Two days in jail for this? I smell a very good settlement in this case.
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I had this happen. I needed to go and the drink cart was in the way. I headed for the business class bathroom the attendant stopped me and said it was a business class bathroom. Once I explained the cart was in the way. She let me go with no issue at all. If I had this person I would have been in jail to. Cause I'm not going in my pants over some stupid rule. I mean really what did this attendant think he was going to do to the bathroom?
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Okay sportsfans, having been in law enforcement for almost thirty years, here's my take.

There are always two sides to every story. Therefore whatever ACTUALLY happened can fall anywhere between the two points.

I personally believe the flight attendant acted inappropriately. There has to be a reason, however, the man was actually locked up. Maybe all he did was push her arm away or maybe he twisted it in the manner described by the flight attendant. Just from my experience, both sides probably embellished their stories.

In any event, once you place your hands in an aggressive manner on an airline crewmember in flight, it is not going to be treated lightly.

Regardless of the situation, they guy will definitely have his day in Court. If everything falls his way then undoubtedly he'll have justification for a heck of a lawsuit. He'll have the right to call witnesses as will the airline. Whether he can FIND the witnesses or if they would be willing to testify (especially if they live hundreds of miles away) are two very important obstacles. Actually, most wouldn't want to be involved and would probably say they didn't see what happened. One possibly big point that is not addressed is whether the guy had been drinking (which is frequently the case in such events). Once the flight was on the ground, it is possible that those sitting around the suspect were interviewed upon leaving the plane and MAYBE that was the reason the guy spent two days in the local crossbar hotel. Then again, it could only be the word of the crew.

In any event based on the crew's statements (probable cause), the guy would undoubtedly be initially locked up.

I am certainly no attorney but I have to say this. Most similar situations, absent some really concrete evidence proving otherwise, is like that with most law enforcement officers -- that absent any obvious contraindications and being the crew are considered professionals, the initial thing might well be to lock the guy up until he posts bail.

I'd love to hear what eventually happened.

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I suspect that Todd's analysis is the correct one. I would like to know the true facts as well. We clearly do not have the full picture. Flight attendants can be nasty as all get out. But one thing is clear in the wake of 9-11, you do not touch them, you do not threaten them, ever. You will lose every time!!
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Flight attendants can be nasty but overall they are good at their jobs and pretty good people.

Last September I was on a Northwest flight from Minneapolis to San Francisco and I had a "brain flop". I made it to the bathroom with the help of my wife. It was the first class bathroom because the cart blocked access to the coach bathrooms. The flight attendants were very concerned and caring. Once I had my shot I returned to my seat after I had been in there about 30 minutes.

My wife asked to buy one of the "$5" snack boxes because afterward the medication makes me very hungry. Instead of returning with the snack box the attendant came back with a first class meal for no charge. We greatly thanked her and I ate it and proceeded to sleep the rest of the trip. While I slept the SFA (Senior Flight Attendant) and my wife had a long personal talk about my problems and she was nothing but supportive.

When we disembarked the plane there was a wheelchair waiting for me. The flight attendant had the pilot call ahead for it. The HFA made sure I made it out of the plane and in to the wheelchair. I really didn't need it by that time but I took the free ride out of gratitude.

So: For the instances of alleged bad conduct by a flight attendant there are probably hundreds of instances of good conduct every day. I know I've seen them.

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Mike,

How so very true!

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