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Trip August 3rd, 2009 08:57 PM

missing cruise ship passenger
 
http://www.king5.com/topstories/stor....a5e6e1c8.html

Mike M August 3rd, 2009 10:16 PM

In 57 degree water I wouldn't expect a happy ending to this one.

Everyone knows that she didn't "fall" overboard.

I hope that the odds are defied and there is a happy ending.

Take care,
Mike

ToddDH August 3rd, 2009 10:19 PM

I'm truly sorry for the woman and her family and friends. That said, she didn't "fall" overboard. As that popular new saying goes, "It is what it is."


Todd

jennc August 4th, 2009 01:08 AM

Female body recovered off Douglas Island, close to Glacier Bay National Park at 4:30pst today. Won;t say for definite it's the female who "fell" from the Zaandam.
Fox News.

Trip August 4th, 2009 08:34 AM

Sad,and predicted ending to the story....

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...WafYgD99RQCFO0

Aidan August 5th, 2009 04:07 AM

Everyone is so eager to denounce a particular word. It is sort of like "He who must not be named" in the Harry Potter novels.

When someone jumps from a ship, what is the proper word to describe what happens next? Float? Fly? Drift?

It is odd when the press, villified for everything, reports precisely what happens ... and is still criticized.

Shrug. Cheers, Aidan

ToddDH August 5th, 2009 09:53 AM

Aidan,

I think most Americans would strongly disagree inasmuch as while a report may be "precise," it all too often is incomplete which is at least as, important as being precise.

That might be why last March a poll conducted by the widely respected Harris Poll, determined that only 30 percent of Americans did not trust the print media.

I think more than fifty percent of those polled would consider the term "villified" excellent terminology in describing their feelings.

Todd

Paul Motter August 6th, 2009 09:58 PM

The problem is that the word "fall" does decribe the action of descending through the air, but it also implies a lacjk of personal responsibility for what happned.

Subsequent reports say she very likely "jumped" before she "fell" so those of us who really care about accuracy find a world of difference between the two words.

I prefer that news reports use the term "went overboard" - even though it is also a vague term at least it doesn't imply there was something faulty about the ship.

ToddDH August 6th, 2009 11:42 PM

Correction of my August 5th post. I should have written only 30 percent DID trust the print media.

Todd


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