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Old February 20th, 2010, 06:16 PM
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Donna..you are right that playing golf again will be his best course of action..however, he was successful because he could compartmentalize, but that was also his downfall..hopefully he has learned the painful (and very expensive) lesson, that in life, no matter how successful one is in his/her chosen profession, it's all about putting a higher power and family first..you can have all the success in the world but when your world comes crumbling down around you, without family one is lost..the other lesson he hopefully has learned is that he is a target for female players (see DTW definition in the above post)...the PGA needs him more then he need the PGA

Dave The Wave...we all know that you are a good guy and that you are more bark then bite, so you would not fit the urban definition of a player...you are more of a spectator :: I think the Cougars will scare you on your upcoming cruise and for your survival for 7 days you will become a chameleon and the real reason you are going on this cruise is not to chase cougars but to sell honda elements
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Has Tiger Let You Down?

Nope, hasn't let me down because it is not my business.

He did what thousands before him have done. And he got caught, just as MANY before him have. His biggest mistake is he is in the public eye and there are big bucks to be made from his indiscretions. Sure he hurt his family ... possibly beyond repair, and he hurt himself professionally, but that is HIS cross to bear, and his Carma to pay. The media is having a field day with it, and you know they are making really big bucks by beating this dead horse.

Shame on you Tiger, you hurt your wife and family, I hope you all can recover from "your Bad" and I hope that the media will just let this die.

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If he was my husband, he would not have any golf balls left to play with.

I love how now there is sex addiction. You act like a slut, and then you go to rehab. As my hubby and I were watching this mess on tv the other night, I could have sworn he whispered that he wished I had some of that addiction.
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I think that anybody in the "public eye", whether they be a politician, athlete, or show business celebrity, should be schooled in the art of public relations. I feel that many famous personalities think "they are entited to behavior that is not becomming with being a famous personality". I feel bad for all the people that looked up to Tiger as role model, especially, young impressionable children. Not only did he let them down, he let down his wife, children, and his mother. If Earl Woods were alive today, he would be very disappointed in his son!
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I'm completely let down and shocked by Tiger's behavior. I mean he is a celebrity!!! I have never heard of Celebrities having affairs!!! Next thing you know there will be dishonest politicians!! Or Lawyers who file silly lawsuits just to make settlement money.

What is the world coming to when you can't even trust a sport celebrity like a Tiger Woods, Michael Vick, Jerry Rice, Pete Rose, Kobe Bryant, Steve Phillps, Ben Roethlisberger, Frank Gifford, Marv Albert or Eugene Robinson (my personal favorite in 1999, just 12 hours after being awarded the Bart Starr Award from the Christian group Athletes in Action for his “high moral character,” the Atlanta Falcons safety got arrested for offering $70 to an undercover police officer — posing as a prostitute — in exchange for oral sex.) Strange there are no women on the list. I guess we are better at not getting caught.
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I couldn’t agree more. I think its ridiculous that he felt he needed to make a public apology or for the public to think their owed one. It has nothing to do with his golfing career it’s his personal business .
I would love to see someone turn the tables on the media who pry in to famous peoples lives just to sell a story.
I agree with you completely. Why does he need to apologize to the public. He hasn't even surprised me. I expect celebrities and sport stars to act this way. There are some celebrities that do use the position to do good work like George Clooney (SP?). Not his celebrity; but his actions make him a hero in my mind.

Todd has a good point we should look at the real heroes in our community. Way isn't San Francisco or New York Airport named after Sully? He saved lives by landing in the Hudson. An amazing and heroic act. rescue workers in Haiti deserve and have my respect they are true heroes.
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With all the problems we are facing all over the world, who cares about Tiger?

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Your absolutely right...WHO CARES!!! we still have men and women dying in Afganistan, unemployment, terrible tragedies happening like Haiti and this man feels entitled to do whatever he wants and is still controlling the media and having somebody else write the apology...... He doesn't affect my life one single iota. GET OVER IT!!
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isn't there a custom that one never names a building after someone who is still living (unless they are close to dying)?..just in case their life takes a negative (embarrassing) downturn ?

I think the media is exploiting other factors coming into play in Tiger's case...
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I think the media is exploiting other factors coming into play in Tiger's case...
Oh I am sorry but there's is no way Tiger gets to play the victim card on this. Tiger summed it up best when he took responsibility for his indiscretions and irresponsible behavior, because he felt entitled. The reason the media has exploited this so much is because he is, who he is, and the guy gave them tons of ammunition to use. I bet he wishes that night he wrecked the Escalade never happened. That event seemed to spark speculation in to his extra curricular activities. I don't care what he says now after the fact...There is no doubt in my there was a petite blond woman chasing him out of that house with a 3 wood. All I say is too bad she she isn't as good with a golf club as he is. Or tiger might be parting his hair on the other side now .

Truly everyone is right. It's no one's business but his. It was a lot of stupid mistakes (not sure that is the right word, since they only became mistakes once he was caught, and the behavior continued until then) sparked by arrogance. Truly though I feel for his wife and kids. I think his wife is very intelligent and is smart enough to know she has him right where she wants him and one way or another this is going to cost him more than just money.
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No....he did not let me down. Don't know him never met him and he is not a family member or friend. He has let his family and friends down.

As for Tiger he will survive with his millions and either his wife or a choice of other beauties.

On my mind is the economy and people loosing their homes and jobs not Tiger.

Tiger is lucky he is not married to Lorena Bobbit....
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Beenie..I was not referring to Tiger being a "victim" (which he is not)..I was referring to the way the media is exploiting this situation
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Beenie..I was not referring to Tiger being a "victim" (which he is not)..I was referring to the way the media is exploiting this situation
That's what they do, when celebrities do what they do and get caught

It's a two edged sword, that same media helped to propel him into a Billion dollar empire.

They can also help tear down that same empire. His marketability isn't simply his talent on the golf course. It is the image he projects, he in and of himself is a commodity that companies were once willing to invest in. He now has devalued that image.

I can't really fault the media so much on this. He basically got a free pass for a very long time and got away with his shenanigans for a very long time before he finally got busted.
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point taken..I think he will come back from this , if and when he returns to the tour and dominates in an even greater fashion then before the incident
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Venice, you're absolutely right.

What he needs to do is practice high-quality damage control, say all the right things (whether he means them or not is irrelevant), and then get back to winning golf tournaments.

If the World can forgive Michael Vick, they'll bend over backwards to forgive Tiger.
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Dean and Venice, I too think he will come back, his pedestal will never be as high, he will appear to everyone more flawed on a human level ( I actually think this may be a good thing) with a huge chink in his armor.

He may finally be judged and credited solely on his performance as a golfer, without all the hype associated with trying to be everything to everybody.

It could be a liberating experience for him, his bank account might not be as big but he might not have nearly as much pressure on him, and perhaps he might sleep better at night instead of taking a drive,
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I wouldn't be so quick to say the "world" is bending over backward to forgive Michael Vick. There are millions out there who think it unjust that he is where he is today. Most of those who are glad, at least publicly, are football announcers, promoters and most of all, football fans who are overwhelmingly male. If he weren't a sports hero, he sure as heck wouldn't be back where he is today. And that too tells us something about the society in which we live. I for one would like to see ethics return at least to a decent degree to sports, politics, business, etc. Trouble is, we're so far down the road to perdition that while they've heard the term, many can't even give you a definition of the word "ethical" and those who can, laugh at the possibility of it's return. In short, it ain't gonna' happen.

It's a world class joke that even those who are responsible for enforcing ethical behavior in countless venues are themselves abominably guilty of such misbehavior.

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on Bill Maher's show this past weekend was former New York Gov. Spitzer,

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Venice,

My point exactly. I didn't see the program but it's my understanding the worthless excuse for a public servant actually wants to again run for major office! If so, the guy has to be setting some kinda' record for being pretentious.

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in today's society, $$$$$ trumps everything and buys alot of forgiveness since our society can only focus on one topic for about 5 minutes

much like the selling of clerical dispensation back in the middle ages

I noticed who was NOT at his press conference which speaks volumes about Tiger's situation (am I am not talking about his wife)
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Tiger is playing the "victim" card as so many do after they are caught. Maybe there should be rehab for bank robbers, tax cheats, etc...

I think Tiger's punishment should be that he has to live with Gloria Albright for a year. That'll teach him!!!

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