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Old August 2nd, 2010, 04:38 PM
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As some of you know, I generally only post once each year now, in February, with our "annual report" information. But I do look in every few months or so, to see what you're all up to, and if anything is particularly new on the board.

Imagine my surprise when I looked the other day to find a string started by none other than Paul himself, musing over the NYT Supreme Court poll--which I'd seen and taken already. And the subsequent posts where almost everybody allied themselves with Clarence Thomas (what, no Scalia?)

And now there's a string about the Wikileaks controversy in which two people are really going at it in a full-out pi$$ing contest.

The ever-perceptive Luanne points out that this certainly represents a sea-change (sorry) in policy around here. If I or anybody else had posted either of those strings back in the dark ages, the censors would have deleted them instantly. Please don't say they wouldn't have. We all know better.

I can only speculate about why what once was verboten is now okey-dokey. But I won't, because if I do Paul will write a long, impassioned tract about why I'm wrong.

Anyway, keep up the good work, kids. Oh, and on the Wikileaks thing, you're both kind of missing the point. You shouldn't conflate the original leak, which is almost certainly a crime and should therefore be prosecuted, with the portions reprinted and discussed in the mainstream press, which is not a crime--and more to the point--which omitted specific names. In other words, the mainstream media have exercised a modicum of judgment which Wikileaks did not. You're welcome to believe that nobody should have printed anything if you like, but you must recognize the huge legal and moral difference between what the original leaker and Wikileaks did as against what many, many newspapers have done subsequently.

I'll check back in with you for my usual February update.

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AR> the "contest" you are referring to is an on-going affair, which I suspect is occasionally encouraged by a "prominent third party". It really is no big deal. Take it with a grain of salt. I do.

I like to think it keeps the place from falling asleep.... which might just happen anyways.
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AR I thought of you when I read that post. It did strike my odd. But to quote the movie the Adventures of Bull Whip Griffin.

"Grandpa used to say that people are 98% water and if you don't stir them up once in awhile, they stagnate."

I think I watch to many movies. I'm guessing I may be the only person that saw that film.
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Goodbye AR. Can't imagine how we all get along without you around here. See you again in Feb.

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AR..it's really very simple. Internet Brands (our owner) decided to "leave more leeway" and allow more controversial topics. Paul posted about that change somewhere.

Personally, I think it's a mistake, and as you say, we're seeing "pissing contests already". I still believe people quit acting like adults when they talk about certain topics when protected by the anonymity of the internet.

Sure, it was done to encourage more posts (hits), and have a bit of an "edge" on the site. I no longer monitor those topics, even for personal attacks.. though I imagine other staff do.
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The rules were relaxed in an experiment to see if people could carry on a discussion without resorting to name calling, personal attacks and completely off topic remarks. It seems that most people can have a reasonable discussion but there are a few who cannot and detract from the discussion rather than adding substance to it.

The experiment is failing and I see that we will soon go back to the old rules of not allowing discussions of a political nature.

I'm disappointed. I hoped for more.

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AR..it's really very simple. Internet Brands (our owner) decided to "leave more leeway" and allow more controversial topics. Paul posted about that change somewhere.

Personally, I think it's a mistake, and as you say, we're seeing "pissing contests already". I still believe people quit acting like adults when they talk about certain topics when protected by the anonymity of the internet.

Sure, it was done to encourage more posts (hits), and have a bit of an "edge" on the site. I no longer monitor those topics, even for personal attacks.. though I imagine other staff do.
I wish someone would have told me that the policy was changed on purpose. I ended up getting ticked off and making Paul angry for nothing.

I agree with you, Kuki, that I am not a fan of it; but I can live with consistency. I am a big believer in Internet Brands and especially FlyerTalk. I just wish they would put into place the rules here that exist for Omni on FlyerTalk.

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Duh--I'm a cousin to Gomer so you'all excuse me but I don't really see that much of a Peeing contest going on any where on here. People are for the most part, pretty doggone well behaved I think.
Sure, there's a few little disagreements here and there but after all, not everyone likes the same flavor ice cream so that alone should show there's going to be a few different opinions now and then.
I think the board 's doing great--but as a cousin to Gomer, what would I know??
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"an experiment"?

I feel icky and used all of a sudden....

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I feel icky and used all of a sudden....

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What you don't like being experimented on?It's because of that alien abduction in 1969 isn't it. I told you not to eat the brownies. How's that for off topic? I think lack of sleep is affecting my mind. Or it's just my mind in general.

AR have you ever heard of a Silent Screen Actress called Lila Lee. I'm rereading her son James Kirkwood Jr. novels and I'm about to start "there must be a Pony." I didn't realize he really found a boy in the backyard in 1936. The silent era has some truly interesting non fiction stories.
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Kat, if you want to go on a theme read...google Thelma Todd, William Desmond, and the Black Dalia murders Elizabeth Short, who came from the Boston Area,and moved to Hollywood, to have a gruesome end...I think I have read every book about the murder.

Thelma's life was quite interesting, as was Desmonds,and the murders, and trials were major paparazzi fodder for the time..good books,all....
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AR have you ever heard of a Silent Screen Actress called Lila Lee. I'm rereading her son James Kirkwood Jr. novels and I'm about to start "there must be a Pony." I didn't realize he really found a boy in the backyard in 1936. The silent era has some truly interesting non fiction stories.
Yes, but I haven't read Kirkwood's books. Thanks for the tip. I'll give it a whirl. Oh yeah, today's Hollywood stories have nothing on the silent era. The only things they didn't have back then were "Entertainment Tonight" and the internet. Imagine the sensation the Fatty Arbuckle case would cause today. I may just screen Sunset Boulevard tonight in the TransLux.
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During the Silent era people were mysteriously pop up dead all over the place.

Roscoe Fatty Arbuckle was arrested and tried for the murder of a Virginia Rappe.

What about the Thomas Ince death on William Randolph Hearst's yacht. He was shot and kill but there was no cornoer's inquest. Plus Thomas Ince's body was cremated.

Clara Bow's Mentally ill mother tried to stab her to death.

The Jackie Coogan thing pisses me off the most (I love the Charlie Chaplin/Jackie Coogan film the kid) as a kid Jackie Coogan earned up to $4 million. When he became an adult he sued his parents. He only received about $126,000 of that $4 million.

Of course there was the Charlie Chaplin and Joan Berry scandal. The Charlie Chaplin and Midred Harris scandal. The Charlie Chaplin and Lita Grey scandal. Charlie Chaplin and Oona O'neil scandal (he was 54 and she was 17). However, the marriage Oona O'neil did last for Charlie Chaplin so people didn't really consider it a scandal I guess. Jerry Lee Lewis sure got in hot water for doing something similar. I guess it was an issue because she was his cousin.

Then there is the dead body in Lila Lee's Backyard found by her 12 year old son. I found James Kirkwood's books to be really good. They are hard to found because a lot of them are out of print. I think PS your cat is dead may still be in print. I checked Good Times/Bad Times out of the liabrary and forgot to return it. How I'm glad I did. I went on Ebay looking for Some kind of Hero (Don't watch the movie that was horrible).

I would love to read a book of just the silent era starts scandals.
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During the Silent era people were mysteriously pop up dead all over the place.

Roscoe Fatty Arbuckle was arrested and tried for the murder of a Virginia Rappe.

What about the Thomas Ince death on William Randolph Hearst's yacht. He was shot and kill but there was no cornoer's inquest. Plus Thomas Ince's body was cremated.

Clara Bow's Mentally ill mother tried to stab her to death.

The Jackie Coogan thing pisses me off the most (I love the Charlie Chaplin/Jackie Coogan film the kid) as a kid Jackie Coogan earned up to $4 million. When he became an adult he sued his parents. He only received about $126,000 of that $4 million.

Of course there was the Charlie Chaplin and Joan Berry scandal. The Charlie Chaplin and Midred Harris scandal. The Charlie Chaplin and Lita Grey scandal. Charlie Chaplin and Oona O'neil scandal (he was 54 and she was 17). However, the marriage Oona O'neil did last for Charlie Chaplin so people didn't really consider it a scandal I guess. Jerry Lee Lewis sure got in hot water for doing something similar. I guess it was an issue because she was his cousin.

Then there is the dead body in Lila Lee's Backyard found by her 12 year old son. I found James Kirkwood's books to be really good. They are hard to found because a lot of them are out of print. I think PS your cat is dead may still be in print. I checked Good Times/Bad Times out of the liabrary and forgot to return it. How I'm glad I did. I went on Ebay looking for Some kind of Hero (Don't watch the movie that was horrible).

I would love to read a book of just the silent era starts scandals.
Similiar to people in the 30's who "fell" out of windows in NYC
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As with the case of Abe Reles who "fell" or "jumped" out of the Half Moon hotel in Coney Island in 1941 all with two cops baby sitting him?

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As with the case of Abe Reles who "fell" or "jumped" out of the Half Moon hotel in Coney Island in 1941 all with two cops baby sitting him?

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Kat, if you want to go on a theme read...google Thelma Todd, William Desmond, and the Black Dalia murders Elizabeth Short, who came from the Boston Area,and moved to Hollywood, to have a gruesome end...I think I have read every book about the murder.

Thelma's life was quite interesting, as was Desmonds,and the murders, and trials were major paparazzi fodder for the time..good books,all....
These sound like interesting books I will have to hit liabrary (if they still trust me with thier books).
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Katlady> I'm beginning to think you hijacked this thread ON PURPOSE...

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Another interesting thread.

I hope the experiment works. Knowledge is wonderful, and one persons view point might cause someone else to think.

But, for those of us who have been around for awhile know that it is a no no to talk about adult subjects without getting deleted, so I comment carefully.
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Thanks old friend. Now if I could just get skymaster to love me all would be right with the world. Ah, well.
AH,,,no problem AR. If, and when we meet face to face, we'll probably become lifelong friends. We just have very different opinions on lots of things, but that will make for interesting conversations.

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Kat...you are really a smooth operatorgreat way to move the thread into a different direction

AR..good to hear from you..I've decided to indulge myself and fulfill one of my lifetime dreams of owning a Jukebox..any suggestions?..been looking at the Wurlizter online digital (I didn't know they were owned by Gibson Guitar Corp) as long as I get all the colors and bells/whistles
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IN all these talk of scandals how about the Lana Turner one...the only thing I remember there was a stabbing involved.. Instead of the "rags" at the supermarket we had film magazine like Photoplay and others..Sadly there have been other incidents of children being cheated by their parents Coogan law or not...or they felt they were..
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I think the guy's name was Johnny Stomponato or something such as that. If I remember correctly, he was stabbed to death by Turner's daughter.

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Threads like this are interesting. I have always been a big fan of "opinions" What a boring world this would be if we all had the same opinion of everything.

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I think the guy's name was Johnny Stomponato or something such as that. If I remember correctly, he was stabbed to death by Turner's daughter.

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The rules were relaxed in an experiment to see if people could carry on a discussion without resorting to name calling, personal attacks and completely off topic remarks. It seems that most people can have a reasonable discussion but there are a few who cannot and detract from the discussion rather than adding substance to it.

The experiment is failing and I see that we will soon go back to the old rules of not allowing discussions of a political nature.

I'm disappointed. I hoped for more.

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Mike, do I take it that the experiment has been abandoned and that political posts are now being deleted?

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Oh AR........how I wish our friend Pamda were still alive to join in! May she R.I.P. ..... her memory lives on!
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