Go Back   CruiseMates Cruise Community and Forums > People > Chit - Chat for Cruisers
Register Forgot Password?

Chit - Chat for Cruisers Open Forum for non-cruise posts. Please refrain from inflammatory rhetoric that could be considered offensive. We reserve the right to edit or delete for any reason.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #91 (permalink)  
Old November 23rd, 2010, 05:15 PM
johnthed0g's Avatar
Senior Member
Admiral
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 2,655
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrPeteLI View Post
You want to drop your drawers and bend over for "SECURITY THEATRE", be my guest.

You must be one of the people buying into thinking this will keep you safe. :-D
Not me, if it comes to that I ain't going!
Reply With Quote
  #92 (permalink)  
Old November 23rd, 2010, 06:04 PM
Dave Beers's Avatar
Moderator
Admiral
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Alabama
Posts: 1,718
Default

As I mentioned in my blog post I am a radiation protection professional. I will tell you that any radiation exposure, no matter how slight, can increase your risks of health problems. Is it likely? No. But over time the use of the backscatter machines will result in some additional cancers and deaths among the flying public. It may be an additional 1 per million, or it could be 10 per million. I don't know and it will take years before any meaningful data can be accrued. There is much to take seriously from the arguments from experts regarding the localized skin exposure. There are also questions about machine malfunctions which could cause excessive radiation dose rates.

All that said, as a radiation protection professional I will endure using the machine over being given a hernia exam. I understand the risks. I will also say that I am much more concerned about kids and those otherwise more sensitive to radiation using the machines - and let's be honest, the current protocol is meant to drive people to use the machines.
__________________
Dave
Forum Moderator
Reply With Quote
  #93 (permalink)  
Old November 23rd, 2010, 06:37 PM
Kuki's Avatar
Moderator
Admiral
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Right here :)
Posts: 22,410
Send a message via AIM to Kuki
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrPeteLI View Post
You want to drop your drawers and bend over for "SECURITY THEATRE", be my guest.

You must be one of the people buying into thinking this will keep you safe. :-D
Nope.. I'm just one that is willing to be part a discussion, not a regurgitating cliche.

I'm willing to go back to the days of non-existent security checks at airports. Secure the doosr to the cockpits, so the airplanes can't be used as bombs, and then those people lost in attacks on the airplanes are just losing their lives to protect the individual freedoms of the rest of us, and will be honored with plaques later, placed somewhere near their remains.
__________________
Kuki
Reply With Quote
  #94 (permalink)  
Old November 23rd, 2010, 07:22 PM
MrPete's Avatar
Senior Member
First Mate
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: New York
Posts: 488
Send a message via AIM to MrPete
Default

Won`t it be a shame when it comes out that this is all just a ploy to unionize the TSA, at your groins expense.
__________________
Past Cruises: Explorer of the Seas 2008 Explorer of the Seas 2007 Carnival Victory 2007 Explorer of the Seas 2006 Legend 2005 Miracle 2004 Disney Wonder 2004; Pride 2003 Legend 2002 Disney Wonder 2002 Destiny 2001 Victory 2000 Triumph 1999 Jubilee 1998 Imagination 1997 Imagination 1996 Fascination 1995 Ecstasy 1993 Fantasy 1990 Jubilee 1990 NCL Seaward 1989 Jubilee 1988
Reply With Quote
  #95 (permalink)  
Old November 23rd, 2010, 07:39 PM
Phil&Liz's Avatar
Senior Member
Admiral
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 2,979
Send a message via Yahoo to Phil&Liz
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrPeteLI View Post
Won`t it be a shame when it comes out that this is all just a ploy to unionize the TSA, at your groins expense.
Doesn't the American Federation of Government Employees represent the TSO's?
__________________
The Original Phil & Liz

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. Margaret Thatcher

Never take an idiot travelling, you can always pick one up when you get there. Billy Connolly

I Didn't Come here and I ain't Leaving.
Willie Nelson

9/01/2013 Carnival Legend
2/16/2014 BC 7

Bill Murray
20 years ago we had Johnny Cash, Bob Hope and Steve Jobs. Now we have no Cash, no Hope and no Jobs. Please don't let Kevin Bacon die.
Reply With Quote
  #96 (permalink)  
Old November 23rd, 2010, 07:45 PM
Dave Beers's Avatar
Moderator
Admiral
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Alabama
Posts: 1,718
Default

Those who are willing to dismiss the concerns of many of us need to remember that history is littered with examples of a compliant populace saying "oh you're crazy, the government will never go that far" - and then they did.

In nuclear power we have a phrase - "it all depends on where you set your zero" - meaning where you establish the range for your tolerance level. Remember that.
__________________
Dave
Forum Moderator
Reply With Quote
  #97 (permalink)  
Old November 26th, 2010, 04:58 AM
Truck Cruiser's Avatar
Senior Member
Captain
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 836
Default

__________________
Live life to the fullest because tomorrow may never come!

Carribean Princess 07
Carnival Valor 08
Carnival Holiday 08
Carnival Triumph 09
Island Princess 09
Carnival Miracle 10
Norwegian Pearl 11
Norwegian Sun 13
Independence of the Seas Feb 14
Carnival Splendor Feb 15
Reply With Quote
  #98 (permalink)  
Old November 26th, 2010, 12:03 PM
Senior Member
Admiral
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 18,199
Default

How about buses and government buildings
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
body, carnival, cruise, cruises, cruiseships, downs, galveston, norwegian, pat, patted, princess, search, ship, ships, triumph

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Hugh Downs as guest speaker - Seabourn Spirit Vietnam Cruise MaryLou Chit - Chat for Cruisers 3 April 14th, 2007 02:54 AM
Something wrong this a.m. Count downs not working? js2003 Chit - Chat for Cruisers 0 September 20th, 2005 08:34 AM
top count downs of the best things about cruises Lulu7 Teen Cruisers 22 April 9th, 2004 11:29 PM
The ups and downs of cruising alone Harry Martin Gay / Lesbian Cruising 4 March 11th, 2004 10:43 PM
Why are smokers so touchy??? Tigger Travel Gripes! 51 June 21st, 2002 05:11 PM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


 

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:56 PM.
design by: Themes by Design

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.1