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Old February 22nd, 2011, 11:23 AM
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Here is one that should have been easy -- until we started talking ourselves into alternative answers! By the time we kicked it around we had about 6 possible answers, and --- picked the wrong one!

What is the world's largest cathedral?

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Okay, I'll bite on this one. It's only a half educated guess but I think it's either St Peters in Rome, the Mormon Cathedral in Salt Lake City.
or St. John the Devine in New York.

Because it's not as well known, I'm gonna' say it's St. John the Divine.

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Cathedral, proper?

My guess would be St. Peter's in Vatican City .... (but I believe it is a basillica).
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Delete the Mormon Temple, it is very small.

I agree with Todd
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I'm going to say Seville because I don't think St. Paul's is a Cathedral.
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What unit of measurement are we using?

S. Peter's Rome is bigger than St. Paul's London which is massive compared to the Mormon temple.

The rest I don't know.

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On my recent trip to Rome last October, our tour guide in the Vatican told us the difference between a church, a cathedral, a mission and a basillica. I don't remember the difference, but there is a significant difference. Somewhere I recall her saying something about the catherdral in Mexico City being either the largest or 2nd largest cathedral in the world.
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I don't think it's a size thing. I think only the Pope can designate a Basililica. I think a Catherdral is where a Bishop is appointed.
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I would have to guess at St Peters.......must remember to take my tape measure next time!
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I don't think it's a size thing. I think only the Pope can designate a Basililica. I think a Catherdral is where a Bishop is appointed.
You are correct.

However the Pope is the Bishop of Rome; St. Peters is a therefore a Cathedral.
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I keep forgetting mine too.

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Todd's correct.

Many people think "cathedral" and automatically assume a Catholic church with a Bishop's chair. St. John The Divine is an Episcopal cathedral.

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Here is what I found from Answers.com

In the Roman Catholic Church, a basilica is a designation for an important church building. A basilica is designated by the pope to buildings that carry special spiritual, historical, and architectural significance. Once a basilica -- always a basilica. A basilica may or may not also be the cathedral of the diocese. This is the highest permanent designation for a church building.
The word basilica derives from a style of church based on the old roman basilicas which were houses of Law.

A cathedral is a church which holds a bishop's throne (called cathedra). It means it is the central church of his diocese. A cathedral may or may not be a basilica. It is the home church for the bishop or archbishop of a Catholic diocese. A cathedral may not always be a cathedral, depending on the decisions of the bishop. Hierarchally, the cathedral is the most important church of a diocese.


St. Peter's in Rome is a basilica. Reading this, I now remember the tour guide in the Vatican telling us a basilica has to be built in a certain way to resemble the old houses of law, a cathedral not built in this way cannot be designated a basilica.



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Todd's correct.

Many people think "cathedral" and automatically assume a Catholic church with a Bishop's chair. St. John The Divine is an Episcopal cathedral.

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Marc,

I've had the question before and St. John The Divine is largest in area. It is larger than two football fields.

I can't remember the name of the tallest but I think it is in Ulm or Cologne, Germany.

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Henry, I loved your answer!!! The younger set may not understand.

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And nobody has yet mentioned the Crystal Cathedral in Los Angeles ...

Don't know how it qualifies as a cathedral ...

And who has visited Salisbury Cathedral near Stonehenge?

HMMM ... is Stonehenge itself a cathedral?

This is exactly how we confused ourselves and got the wrong answer in the end!
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Henry I read your answer and immediately started whistling!

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As a proud member of the younger set, please explain!
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Henry and RD, I have Winchester Cathedral on my Ipod. When anyone mentions cathedral I start humming it.
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Wikipedia confirms the answer given on the cruise -- the largest cathedral (defined by them as a Christian church) in both area and volume is indeed one's first thought, St. Peter's in Rome.

We talked ourselves out of that one. Sometimes the obvious answer is the best one.

And I certainly hope the younger generation of posters has been inspired to find and listen to "Winchester Cathedral". A perfectly beautiful song.
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Start hitting the internet folks, because the Widipedia's answer may well be wrong.

St. Peters Basilica is listed as the largest BUT Widipedia also allows editing.

According to Chiff.com, St. Peters Basilica is the largest Christian religious structure in the world but states it does not fit the true definition of "cathedral" because, strangely, it's too large and considered too "universal.".

According to Chiff.com, the largest Cathedral in the world is St. John The Devine in New York, a point disputed by another huge Episcopal Cathedral in England but from what I can find, the New York Cathedral is the largest.

This is backed up by New York Carver, a site devoted to ancient structures, architecture and the Middle Ages which echos Chiff.com's points.

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Ah, but remember the first rule of Cruiseline Trivia -- the answer the quizmaster has is by definition the RIGHT answer!! Todd, do you know how much luck I have ever had arguing with the quizmaster?

Now to somehow weasel that St. Peter's is not a "cathedral" seems to me to be nonsense. The accepted definition of a "Cathedral" is the church seat ("cathedra") of a Bishop, and the Pope is unquestionably the Bishop of Rome. Infallibility of the Pope requires that he be speaking "ex cathedra", from his Bishop's seat. [

Actually nobody has mentioned the new cathedral in Brazil which is right up there on the list too.

Ah, this is why shipboard Trivia is so much fun!!
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Sorry to belabour the point ... but St.Peter's is in Vatican City not Rome.

St. Peter's is a Papal Basillica not a Catherdral.

Recognizing the Wikipeida source for what it is worth:

The Papal Basilica of Saint Peter (Latin: Basilica Sancti Petri), officially known in Italian as the Basilica Papale di San Pietro in Vaticano and commonly known as St. Peter's Basilica, is a Late Renaissance church located within the Vatican City. St. Peter's Basilica has the largest interior of any Christian church in the world.[1] It is regarded as one of the holiest Catholic sites. It has been described as "holding a unique position in the Christian world"[2] and as "the greatest of all churches of Christendom".[3]


St. Peter's is famous as a place of pilgrimage, for its liturgical functions and for its historical associations. It is associated with the papacy, with the Counter-reformation and with numerous artists, most significantly Michelangelo. As a work of architecture, it is regarded as the greatest building of its age.[5] Contrary to popular misconception, Saint Peter's is not a cathedral, as it is not the seat of a bishop. It is properly termed a papal basilica. The Basilica of St. John Lateran is the cathedral church of Rome

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Also from Wikipedia:

The Cathedral of St. John the Divine, officially the Cathedral Church of Saint John the Divine in the City and Diocese of New York, is the Cathedral of the Episcopal Diocese of New York. Located at 1047 Amsterdam Avenue, New York, NY 10025 (between West 110th Street, which is also known as "Cathedral Parkway", and 113th Street) in Manhattan's Morningside Heights, the cathedral disputes with Liverpool Anglican Cathedral the title of largest Cathedral and Anglican church[1] and fourth largest Christian church in the world.[2] The inside covers 121,000 sq ft (11,200 m2), spanning a length of 183.2 meters (601 ft) and height 70.7 meters (232 ft). The inside height of the nave is 37.8 meters (124 feet).
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Just curious .... has anyone here contributed to or edited Wikipedia?
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I have made 3 or 4 very minor contributions to Wikipedia on subjects that I happen to know something about. I am the director of the Eighteenth Degree of Scottish Rite Freemasonry for our Valley, and I corrected a couple of slight misstatements in that article.

Of course anybody can do it.

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