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Old March 4th, 2011, 06:44 PM
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Sorry, nothing beats a Japanese car. Nissan, Honda, Acura, Lexus etc. North American and British Cars really are cheap and non reliable.
Having said that, we should be very careful buying Chinese goods. The dollar stores are flooded with cheap stuff, it looks like a bargain but could be full of stuff we don't know what it is going to do to us or the environment.
Unfortunately, unions have made an impact on the British and US markets. In their Hay Day they have gained good working conditions and salaries and benefits for their members but we are all now paying the price, in demanding these things they have given the advantage to China and India for production of cheaper items.
It's a shame that US and UK have to compete,( which really they cannot) and in the unemployment and recession plagued times that we live in , unfortunately people are looking for the cheapest and biggest "bang for the buck" they can find.
I don't know what the alternative is!!
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I have not driven a car since 2003 .I bought a Chevy Impala in 1972 and had it till 1985 when I bought a Chevy Eurosport and drove it till 2003 .
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I have owned several Pord vehicles that were very reliable. I put 200,000 on my last Ford Taurus and then I gave it to a friend who was out of work and he has been driving it everyday for over a year. He did find a job and now has tranportation.

I never bought a Japanese car and never will.

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I have had mostly GM vehicles. Since '74 I've owned

A '74 Cutlass Supreme, a '77 Cutlass Salon, an 82 Monte Carlo, an 84 Caprice, an 86 Monte Carlo a 96 Pontiac Grand Am and an '01 Grand Am and I've never had a serious problem with any. My 01 Grand Am still looks and runs as well as the day I purchased it and I have almost 140,000 miles on it. I still get compliments on it!

Today, the American automobile is often the equal and sometimes even surpasses the imports in quality and reliability. In short, the edge that imports used to have is pretty much going if not already gone. All you have to do is to look at Toyota and they used to be something along the lines of the gold standard. They now have so many problems it's almost comical unless you own one. I believe just a week or so ago, just when they thought everything was over, they recalled another two million.

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I am proud to buy American. Our products may not all be perfect, but I allways enjoy buying American whenever it is possible to do so.

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I have had mostly GM vehicles. Since '74 I've owned

A '74 Cutlass Supreme, a '77 Cutlass Salon, an 82 Monte Carlo, an 84 Caprice, an 86 Monte Carlo a 96 Pontiac Grand Am and an '01 Grand Am and I've never had a serious problem with any. My 01 Grand Am still looks and runs as well as the day I purchased it and I have almost 140,000 miles on it. I still get compliments on it!

Today, the American automobile is often the equal and sometimes even surpasses the imports in quality and reliability. In short, the edge that imports used to have is pretty much going if not already gone. All you have to do is to look at Toyota and they used to be something along the lines of the gold standard. They now have so many problems it's almost comical unless you own one. I believe just a week or so ago, just when they thought everything was over, they recalled another two million.

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Todd,

I agree that today U.S. vehicles, which aren't always made in the U.S., are on par with most foreign manufacturers. Toyota messed up because they initially denied there was a problem. Also the media had a field day showing that Toyota was not perfect and the negative publicity really helped the American auto makers.

In 2009 Ford recalled 4.5 million vehicles because of a faulty cruise control release switch. These were vehicles from 1992 - 2008. They just recalled 150,000 F150 pickups. According to Bloomberg, Ford has recalled more than 10,000,000 vehicles in the last decade. In comparison Toyota's total recall is just over 4,000,000.

The bad American cars of the 70's, 80's and early 90's left a very bad taste in people's mouths, including mine, and it made it hard to buy another American car after being bit once too many times. I now own a Toyota and a Chevrolet Suburban. Both run great.

I remember when you would have a party when your car exceeded 100,000 miles. (And if it did it was barely running) Now I expect at least 200,000 from a vehicle and that is without major repairs. I have a friend who brags about how many miles he has on his 1990 Dodge truck. It is somewhere around 250,000 miles. The problem is that he has replaced the engine, transmission, rear differential and a number of other things.

I also have no problem buying a foreign vehicle that is made in the U.S.

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Made in America at Smithsonian Shops? Probably Not - ABC News


This, from tonights news, is troubling to say the least..especially considering this is America's gold standard of museums,
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