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Trip March 2nd, 2011 06:53 PM

Made in America
 
I just watched this,and it's startling! I work for a clothing designer/ manufacturer, who proudly makes his clothing in Massachusetts...wait till you see what happens when they remove everything in this home, not made in America.

Made in America: Finding American Products - ABC News

CruzNut March 2nd, 2011 07:55 PM

Oh my gosh, Trip!

Hopefully, you'll have the follow-up to what they managed to find Made In America.

I've so often noticed that most things are not made in America - how sad for our country.

Manuel March 2nd, 2011 08:11 PM

I allways do my best to find products that are made in the USA.

TM

Trip March 2nd, 2011 08:14 PM

I was surprised to see they didn't show the ending in the video,that, I saw tonight. An eye opener for sure...

Before & After: Inside the 'Made in America' Home - ABC News

Donna March 2nd, 2011 09:20 PM

What an eye opener, imagine the jobs that have been lost here over the years??

Lakers Fan March 2nd, 2011 09:35 PM

We never buy anything made in Germany and try to always buy US made products .

Aerogirl March 2nd, 2011 09:39 PM

My shoes are made in America:)

ToddDH March 2nd, 2011 11:04 PM

Staggering! Absoutely staggering!

Todd

ship2shore March 3rd, 2011 02:40 AM

Some companies just sew a label on a garment made entirely overseas just so's they can say it was "made" here.

Manuel March 3rd, 2011 03:21 AM

One thing that I will never buy is food products that say ( made in China ). And there are quite a few. Many canned seafood products and some nuts come from China.

Read the label.

TM

anniegb March 3rd, 2011 06:14 AM

I was only surprised that you were all surprised.

The same is true for most households across Europe I would think, with the possible exception of Germany? but I don't know.

The question is surely what would the price premium be for American manufactured goods?

We have the same issue in the UK - our manufacturing base has gone.

Bottom line is we want premium goods at a discount price.

Annie

kandajones March 3rd, 2011 08:18 AM

In full agreement with Angie, I would add that we had a similar program in the UK a few months back, the post cleansing house looked fairly emptry, so then they sourced & restocked it with items made within the UK.
Most things were actually still available thanks to small & boutique industries, but the prices were terrifying.

We would love to buy 'Made in Britain' products, but our finance advisor may not be so pleased ;)

So do you pay the extra for a quality product in the & hope that it will last longer only to throw it away when you redecorate, redesign or move. Or go for the cheap option, fully expecting to throw it out (or hopefully give to a good cause) whilst it is still in working order.

Alan.

Truck Cruiser March 3rd, 2011 08:37 AM

Just goes to show why this country is in the shape it is. Why there are so many folks in America today without a good paying job. We Americans have shot ourselves in the foot trying to save a buck buying products from foreign nations. I guess we have gotten what we deserve.

LisaK March 3rd, 2011 10:07 AM

i caught it on the news this morning, the finished rooms were beautiful, some products cost more, some less, i think on the news tonight we get the final tally

CruisinK n J March 3rd, 2011 12:17 PM

Made in America
 
That's really something! I thought the changes made were a great improvement. But I did notice the Viking appliances. Big bucks there. Who paid for all this? Was it ABC?

Judy

kandajones March 3rd, 2011 03:49 PM

Sorry Annie
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kandajones (Post 1356654)
In full agreement with Angie,

Don't know why I gave you the wrong name - I will write out 1000 times, I will not get Annie's name wrong again.

Is it ok if I use Cut & Paste for the 1000 lines ;)

Alan

anniegb March 3rd, 2011 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kandajones (Post 1356828)
Don't know why I gave you the wrong name - I will write out 1000 times, I will not get Annie's name wrong again.

Is it ok if I use Cut & Paste for the 1000 lines ;)

Alan

I have been called worse:D

Annie

HawkeyeFLA March 4th, 2011 03:54 AM

When its all said and done, I want to see the cost difference between what was in the house before, and what's in the house now.

I'm very much a patriot, and very proud of my country. But guess what? I would rather own a car designed and made in Germany.

As often as cruisers travel, I would hope that they see and realize that there is more to this big blue and green ball than America.

Eh, I'm going to stop now before I really start rambling and probably upset a lot of people.

Manuel March 4th, 2011 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkeyeFLA (Post 1356968)

I'm very much a patriot, and very proud of my country. But guess what? I would rather own a car designed and made in Germany.

.

You do have the freedoom to buy whatever you want. But if you and the rest of us don't buy American, you could wind up un-employed and broke.:cry:

TM

Lakers Fan March 4th, 2011 10:37 AM

Well said ,Manuel

anniegb March 4th, 2011 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henry43 (Post 1357026)
Well said ,Manuel

Manuel/Henry

I thought better of you guys.

You both cruise on vessels built where?

Annie

anniegb March 4th, 2011 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkeyeFLA (Post 1356968)
When its all said and done, I want to see the cost difference between what was in the house before, and what's in the house now.

I'm very much a patriot, and very proud of my country. But guess what? I would rather own a car designed and made in Germany.

As often as cruisers travel, I would hope that they see and realize that there is more to this big blue and green ball than America.

Eh, I'm going to stop now before I really start rambling and probably upset a lot of people.

Please ramble - we need to hear different views.

If a US car manufacturer was as successful , in terms of quality, design etc. ,as certain German manufacturers, I suspect the demand for the German products would decline.

Annie

Lakers Fan March 4th, 2011 11:37 AM

Byilt where ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by anniegb (Post 1357045)
Manuel/Henry

I thought better of you guys.

You both cruise on vessels built where?

Annie

I've cruised on Cunard a British ship
HAL -Netherlands
Carnival-presumably american

Thats it

ToddDH March 4th, 2011 01:44 PM

Ray,

This is unscientific but I'd say most cruise ships are built in Italy, Germany (the newer Celebrity ships just to name a few) and the RCI behemoths from the Voyager Class on up (and many before) in Turku Finland. The last purposely built cruise ship built (and I think the only one) in this country has now been either scrapped or it's with a "nobody ever heard of it" owner.

This country has no major passenger shipbuilding industry (we do of course build our own military vessels) and we never really did even try to have a passenger ship industry of any significant size because we never attempted to vie for the North Atlantic passengers because of the proliferation of European ships. Following WWI, we attempted for awhile using the largest ship then in existence (we named it the Leviathan) that was taken from the Germans.

In the thirties among the two most beautiful ships (after of course the Normandie and a couple of others) and by far the most technically advanced for their day were the German liners Bremen and Europa built around '30 - '31 (they were for a time the fastest as well) both of which were very popular with Americans and Europeans. The Bremen burned at it's wharf in Bremerhaven in '42 or '43 from arson by a disgruntled crew member and the Europa was taken by France and after being refloated (after it hit another wreck of yet another famous ship that had burned and sank) while being taken to be refurbished. was rebuilt and renamed the Liberte` which saw quite a few years on the North Atlantic run and was a very popular ship.

BTW, the most respected ship designer in the world at that time was a German Jew (he designed the Bremen and Europa if I remember correctly) who, was of course villified by the Nazis and he died either a suicide or a broken man. Very sad. So it was in fact a Jewish designer who actually brought back the German passenger ship industry following WWI. Ironic, isn't it?

Todd

Manuel March 4th, 2011 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anniegb (Post 1357045)
Manuel/Henry

I thought better of you guys.

You both cruise on vessels built where?

Annie

Annie, I am not anti-Europe at all. As a matter of fact I was born in Portugal.
It's just that we need to support our countries economies. We cannot import everything and expect to have full employment.

But you are correct. All the cruiseships that we sail are made in Germany,France, Italy or Finland.

TM

Manuel March 4th, 2011 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henry43 (Post 1357054)
I've cruised on Cunard a British ship
HAL -Netherlands
Carnival-presumably american

Thats it

Cunard, Hal, Princess, Costa and of course Carnival cruise lines are all owned by Carnival Corporatin and although the are based in Miami fl., all their ships are made in Europe.

It gets even dicier NCL is owned by a group from Hong Kong.

TM

Trip March 4th, 2011 03:53 PM

They are built there, but they are not flagged there...

anniegb March 4th, 2011 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manuel (Post 1357140)
Annie, I am not anti-Europe at all. As a matter of fact I was born in Portugal.
It's just that we need to support our countries economies. We cannot import everything and expect to have full employment.

But you are correct. All the cruiseships that we sail are made in Germany,France, Italy or Finland.

TM

Manuel

I did know you were born in Portugal and I do know you are not anti-Europe.

Remember though that the USA exports a lot. Heck I have more American goods in my home than British, at present.

The way I see it is that it is not the responsibility of the consumer to buy home-made goods that are either more expensive, inferior in design or poorer quality than foreign goods just to keep someone in a job.

The USA and European manufacturers just have to get smarter.

There are jobs in the personal services sector i.e. medical, care, car mechanic etc than cannot be exported.

Annie

Manuel March 4th, 2011 04:12 PM

Annie, I like to buy things are made locally, but of course we do have to be smart and buy what we can afford.

I am just sad that we lost our major industries.

By the way, I like your posts and it's nice to see people on both sides of the pond posting here.

TM

anniegb March 4th, 2011 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manuel (Post 1357153)
Annie, I like to buy things are made locally, but of course we do have to be smart and buy what we can afford.

I am just sad that we lost our major industries.

By the way, I like your posts and it's nice to see people on both sides of the pond posting here.

TM

Manuel

I am in 100% agreement with you here.

I live very close to the River Clyde and it is a great sadness to us Scots that shipbuilding on the Clyde is greatly reduced.

I buy local when I can but a lot of industries have gone.

I have always enjoyed reading your and Henry's posts - a beacon of common sense.:)

Annie


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