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Old October 10th, 2011, 12:29 AM
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I watched a few minutes of Pan Am tonight. It is a very handsome soap opera, the art direction is really first class. Of course, those of us who flew Pan Am don't recall that all the stewardesses (yes, you were allowed to call them that) were that good looking. Nor were the pilots all blonde, handsome and 35. In fact, if the captain didn't have a reasonable amount of gray hair you'd be a little suspicious. Sort of like the first time Matt--as a rookie first officer--flew the river visual down the Potomac to land to the south at National. Our house is near the river and you can see the planes on approach from our back yard. Matt said he was tempted to get on the PA and say, "Everybody on the right side of the plane wave at my parents." But he said he didn't do it because the passengers probably wouldn't want to know that the pilot had parents who were still alive.

But the Pan Am thing got me to thinking of the list I keep of the airlines I've flown. I went in and marked the US flag carriers that I've flown that no longer exist. When Continental disappears in a few months, the count will be an even 30. Here it is. . .

ATA Airlines
Air Atlanta
Air Florida
AirTran
Allegheny Airlines
America West Airlines
Braniff International Airways
Caribair
Eastern Air Lines
Frontier Airlines (the "old" Frontier 1950-1986))
National Airlines
New York Air
New York Airways (helicopter)
Ozark Airlines
Pacific Southwest Airlines
Pan American World Airways
People Express
Piedmont Airlines (the "old" Piedmont 1940-1989)
Presidential Airways
North Central Airlines
Northeast Airlines
Northwest Airlines
Southern Airways
Texas International Airlines
Transamerica Airlines (charter airline)
Trans Texas Airways
Trans World Airlines
Trump Shuttle
Western Airlines

coming soon. . .

Continental Airlines (merging with United)

I'm not sure there are that many lines left in the country, but I suppose if you count the little guys, there are. But the major players now are down to American, Delta, United, US, Southwest, and maybe Alaska and jetBlue.

Anybody have any fond memories of the dear departed lines? I have lots. Any other RIP's to add to the list?
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Old October 10th, 2011, 01:10 AM
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Midwest Airlines (used to be known as Midwest Express)
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Old October 10th, 2011, 06:56 AM
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TWA was my airline of choice for several years. I did a lot of international travel, and held a TWA "gold card", which gave me instant upgrades (space available) to both Business Class and First. I also had a lifetime membership in the Ambassador Club. When American bought TWA, my membership evaporated, as did all the other perks. Really loved that airline.
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I remember back in the days...flying National, Piedmont, Southern and Braniff.

On one flight to Florida on National, the stewardesses really went "above and beyond" and I so noted on a comment card that I handed to one of the stewardesses. After we had arrived at the gate and were getting ready to deboard, the head stewardess handed me not three bottles but three magnums of Champagne.

Other than the piston engined "Connie" or Super Constellation with the triple tail which I believe remains the most beautiful passenger aircraft that ever flew (and which many of you would not remember) my next favorite was the Boeing 727 (the jet with three engines in the tail) and that's the airplane used in that new pick-up truck commercial that the truck "rescues" when it puts it's front landing gear in the bed of the pick-up. At the time it was the most prolific passenger aircraft in the world.
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Old October 10th, 2011, 07:24 AM
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AR, my list is a few short of yours but I did fly on AirTran last week. Yes, they were bought by Southwest but are still operating as AirTran.

Many of those you mention are still in existence but as part of larger airlines. Although Piedmont and PSA have been merged with Agony Airlines (Allegheny) to form US Air, you can still see PSA (and I believe Piedmont) flights; sort of like United Express or other regional carrier.

The one on the list I really miss is Eastern. When I was flying frequently between Washington and Boston and Washington and Jacksonville, they treated me well. First airline I ever flew first class, first airline I ever flew on international frequent flyer ticket. OnePass with Peoples Express, New York Air, Continental, and Eastern was my favorite frequent flyer program for a number of years.
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Marc,

A minor correction as I have a friend who retired as a pilot from Piedmont at the time it was acquired by US Air and he told me the story of how that happened as he was thrilled he was retiring just at the time of the acquisition because he despised US Air.

US Air was formed in the late seventies by just changing it's name from Alleghany to US Airways. They then purchased smaller more regional carriers (including Piedmont) in the mid to late 80's in order to expand its market.
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Many years ago, I once flew on Piedmont to Florida (Jacksonville I think). The runway was a bit rough and needed to be repaved. Needless to say, the landing was kind of rough. I jokingly said to a fellow passenger "I wonder if the pilot is also a baseball player. The passenger said "Why?". I said "Because I didn't think the landing was supposed to be first bounce or fly!"" I miss Piedmont Airlines. Some good memories there.
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I remember getting my gold wings each time I flew Eastern alone, which I did alot as a kid from Florida to Chicago.
Later in life I flew PSA...the "Poor Sailors Airline" !!
I used to be a fan of Continental being we are in their hub but after the fees starting racking up we are trying to stay with SWA. I have a few thousand miles points with CO that I guesss I will lose if I havent already.

We like the show Pan Am. Ya have to wonder if any of the storyline where they are using the stweardess as a foreign agents has any basis in truth.
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My 1st flght ever, was on Northeast Airlines in 1968 was for our honeymoon, on a very short flight from Boston. I don't remember any gloves on the "stewardesses," but, I do remember my tea bouncing our of my cup!!

When we rented out first apartment, I was told the man that came up with the idea, to use the song, "Yellow Bird" as their theme song, used to live there. For his clever idea, they presented him with yellow roses...nothing more.

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I can't name all the airlines I have been on, since most of our travel has been thanks to the US Gov. I do remember my first flight was out of Atlanta to Jacksonville in 1977. I believe it was on Eastern, but it could have been Delta.

I do have wonderful memories of the airport in Atlanta, growing up. It was our hang out. We would go there to eat, to people watch, and yes, to make out. The airport was at that time very small, and the whole thing could be walked in about five minutes, and had two or three places to eat. There was no such thing as security, so without a ticket, you could walk all the way to the plane, and if someone was at the plane, you could even get on before the passengers, just to look around. It also didn't have three names, like today, but was called the Atlanta airport. I smile today thinking of the name Jackson, because that was the name of one of the mayors.

The making out part was done at the end of the two or three runways. The landing lights were blue, so it made a perfect spot. Of course I only went there because of the lights. To this day when I land on a runway at night, and the lights are blue, I get a feel good feeling inside.

I flew on an airplane that might be one that AR can't even list. I once flew from Frankfort Germany, to Charleston, in a C-130. It was a flight arranged with the Red Cross due to a death in the family. We sat on wooden plywood boards, with a blanket, and a bottle of water. No heat, and no A/C.
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North Central, know locally as the "Blue Goose", operated in northern Michigan with flights to Detroit, Chicago the Upper Penninsula and Grand Rapids.

Also remember Air Florida from Lauderdale to Sarasota - DC-3's.

Not sure, but is Sabena (the Belgian airline) still in operation?
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Value Jet (later became AirTran) was a fun airline to fly.
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AR, my list is a few short of yours but I did fly on AirTran last week. Yes, they were bought by Southwest but are still operating as AirTran.

Many of those you mention are still in existence but as part of larger airlines. Although Piedmont and PSA have been merged with Agony Airlines (Allegheny) to form US Air, you can still see PSA (and I believe Piedmont) flights; sort of like United Express or other regional carrier.

The one on the list I really miss is Eastern. When I was flying frequently between Washington and Boston and Washington and Jacksonville, they treated me well. First airline I ever flew first class, first airline I ever flew on international frequent flyer ticket. OnePass with Peoples Express, New York Air, Continental, and Eastern was my favorite frequent flyer program for a number of years.
I thought I'd read that AirTran's certificate was transferred to Southwest, but I could have been dreaming. I know the brand is still being used to a limited degree. What I've wondered is what Southwest is going to do with all those 717s and whatever else AirTran flies that's not a 737. One of Southwest's big ideas for saving money has always been a single fleet type, and as far as I know it's worked pretty well for them.

And, I know that many of those on my list were merged, bought, absorbed or otherwise acquired by other lines. It's the disappearance of the brand that I'm really talking about. Also, I didn't split them when they just changed something for marketing reasons, like Northwest Orient becoming Northwest.

Totally agree about OnePass. I was often on each of those airlines and racked up some big numbers with them as well--and enjoyed some nice front-of-the-bus trips. We each still have significant balances in OnePass.

Which reminds me: anybody who has active accounts in both Continental OnePass and United Mileage Plus should go online and link the accounts. Once the merger is complete the account balances will be added up and merged under Mileage Plus. But be aware: Mileage Plus has and will continue to have expiration dates if there's no activity in the account over a certain period (I think it's 18 months). OnePass is somewhat unique in that it never has had any expiration dates, but it will once the accounts are merged into Mileage Plus. Be alert--don't let your miles expire!!
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