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Old February 16th, 2012, 11:51 PM
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Will the outbreak of the Norovirus and other gastrointestinal viruses make you think twice before booking a cruise ?
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I have never taken that in consideration as far as booking a cruise. Most cases of that virus occur on land.

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Thought twice but still cruisin on Monday. I will wash more often and carry a small hand sanitizer when visiting the buffet.
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Won't affect booking. It's not a ship disease, one can get it anywhere, it's just not reported.
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Old February 17th, 2012, 09:01 AM
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No, the best way to keep from getting it anywhere is to wash your hands a lot. Don't need anti bactiral as Noro is a VIRUS, so good handwashing is the thing.

Plus you can get it from anyplace you go, the store, work or school. Not just something that happens on ships, Just gets publishized when it happens on a ship.
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Alcohol based hand cleansers are effective at reducing the number of viral pathogens on human hands. Cleansing with soap and water is more effective however on cruise ships this is not always a option. Alcohol based hand sanitizer are commonly referred to as "anti-bacterial" hand cleansers but they do kill viruses. Not all hand sanitizer are created equal, try to purchase one made for the medical community not one that smells nice


Now for my opinion, Iím still cruising however these outbreaks may keep my best friend and her baby who will only be 18 months when Iím planning my next cruise from coming.
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Hellno Would someone tell their child not to apply to Yale, since they had a recent outbreak as well?

Be concientous and, take precautions...that's all you can do, and, sail on.
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Hellno Would someone tell their child not to apply to Yale, since they had a recent outbreak as well?
Ummmm not quite the same, infants immune systems are underdeveloped and they become dehydrated much much fast than adults, so intestinal bugs such as norovirus can be fatal in children under two. BUT like I said I'm still cruising no doubt about it. And hopefully by November this bug shoud have ran it's course.
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Ummmm not quite the same, infants immune systems are underdeveloped and they become dehydrated much much fast than adults, so intestinal bugs such as norovirus can be fatal in children under two. BUT like I said I'm still cruising no doubt about it. And hopefully by November this bug shoud have ran it's course.
Yale is a college. I don't think too many infants attend. :o Though someone may be over 18 they are still a "child" to the parents.

BTW: There are numerous outbreaks of Noro in elementary schools and daycare centers each year.

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Whenever I am in a public restroom I look to see if people wash their hands and the majority of the time they do NOT.
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How about people washing their hands in the restroom and them picking up the virus from the door handle when leaving?
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How about people washing their hands in the restroom and them picking up the virus from the door handle when leaving?
When I was on Carnival Imagination in December, they now have small towel dispensers next to the doors for just such a thing. I *think* it's part of the new VSP procedures of 2011. But don't quote me on that. Good idea either way.
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Not at all. I work in a school where the Norovirus has been rampant the past month, and both my co-workers have had it.
I just spent 2 days in the emergency room where every 2nd patient seemed to have it.
Maybe my immune system is good because I have been eating well and exercising more, but I have managed to escape it so far...
So going on a cruise in 3 weeks, on a ship that has been hit hard (Ruby Princess) doesn't worry me, because I know they will be taking extra precautions to prevent illness.

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Thankfully, I have never had it on ship or on shore. Tomorrow may be the day.
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The Norovirus or so-called "cruise ship Disease" is the second only to the flu in number of cases of such diseases. Millions of Americans get it every year yet often, they don't know what they have and in most cases, within a few days it's gone so they don't bother to go to their doctor.


The ONLY reason why it's associated most often with cruise liners is, simply because the national CDC that studies such diseases used primarily cruise ships to study the problem simply because there are literally thousands of people closely associated over day or weeks at a time.

In other words, they use the Cruise industry as a sort of petrie dish.
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IMO, the virus on a cruise ship is worse than a hotel, school, etc., because on a ship you can't relocate. At hotels, schools, etc. at least you could go somewhere else.
But to answer the original question, no, I would not think twice, I'd just go.
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How about people washing their hands in the restroom and them picking up the virus from the door handle when leaving?

I use the paper or cloth towels to open the door when leaving .
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I was on the Nieuw Amsterdam a few years ago, and there was an outbreak of the virus. My dinner table started with 8 people and ended up with 4.

We narrowed down the people that DID get sick at our table and what they had in common:

They were rarely outside.
They spent a lot of time in the casino (imagine the germs on tokens!)
We never saw them at the pool or beach.
HAL did a great job of trying to contain the virus - no handshaking, even at the Captain's party, no salt and pepper shakers on tables, servers served you portions at the buffet, all bedspreads were washed every 2 days, etc.

About 250 people got sick and the CDC was waiting for us at Port Everglades and cancelled the next cruise. I did not get sick at all.

It's hard to tell, when about 3,000 to 4,000 arrive by plane from all over the world in one day, where or who the virus might have come from.

The Norovirus has not crossed my mind since then, except to wash my hands more often.....everywhere.
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