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Happy Purim, Henry! I hope you follow the admonition to "not know the difference" !!
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Happy Purim,
I understand the history behind Purim and am curious as to how it is celebrated.
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I understand the history behind Purim and am curious as to how it is celebrated.

The story of Purim( Megilla ) is read to the congregation and whenever the name of the evil Haman is said the congregation reacts by using grogors . Afterward everyone eats hamantaschen which is a form of pastry .

Optional is to dress in costume .I once dressed as a Hobo . Prizes are often given for the best original costumes .
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Henry,

I had never heard of it, so I googled, and it is a wonderful story. Thank you for teaching me something new today.
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And a Happy Purim to you Henry as well as to all of our Jewish friends!
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Happy Purim, Henry! I hope you follow the admonition to "not know the difference" !!
Just because some of you might not understand, Jew's are supposed to drink "enough" that they can't tell the difference between the good guy's and the the bad guy's! (Mordecai & Hamen)

I know, too late, but I thought it should be explained .
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Just because some of you might not understand, Jew's are supposed to drink "enough" that they can't tell the difference between the good guy's and the the bad guy's! (Mordecai & Hamen)

I know, too late, but I thought it should be explained .

That is not my interpretation .
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Sooooo, what's your interpretation of "ad lo yada", or imbibing to blur the difference between Mordecai and Haman? I've seen (and participated in ) this Purim tradition in past years.
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Sooooo, what's your interpretation of "ad lo yada", or imbibing to blur the difference between Mordecai and Haman? I've seen (and participated in ) this Purim tradition in past years.

I graduated Yeshiva Talmud Torah . The Rabbi differed in his interpretation of many things . One is during a prayer in which most people bow ,probably 99% of people do ,but my Rabbi said not to bow .


My son-in-law has a brother who is black-hat .I will ask him next week.
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I'll be interested in what he has to say. Like everything else, there are as many opinions as there are Jews ! (In reference to the bowing, are you talking about Aleinu? (sp)?).

Our congregation was made up of mostly Eastern European's; some were from the camps, some made it here earlier. I've found many things now to be different from what I grew up around (i.e., Shabbos became Shabbat, Bas Mitzvah became Bat Mitzvah, etc.). One of our leader's was from England, so I learned a lot of the prayer's with a British accent!! (La hoy doi dee instead of Lo ho do dee, for instance.)

I've been confused for years, but able to join in when necessary!

I think we have more in common than not,
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Celebrating Purim brings back some great childhood memories. I loved the story of Queen Esther and her father, Mordechi. Best of all was eating the delicious hamantaschen.
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I'll be interested in what he has to say. Like everything else, there are as many opinions as there are Jews ! (In reference to the bowing, are you talking about Aleinu? (sp)?).

Our congregation was made up of mostly Eastern European's; some were from the camps, some made it here earlier. I've found many things now to be different from what I grew up around (i.e., Shabbos became Shabbat, Bas Mitzvah became Bat Mitzvah, etc.). One of our leader's was from England, so I learned a lot of the prayer's with a British accent!! (La hoy doi dee instead of Lo ho do dee, for instance.)

I've been confused for years, but able to join in when necessary!

I think we have more in common than not,

Yes ,I was referring to Aleinu . When I was a kid girls did not have Bas or Bat Mizvah's .
I attended an Orthodox synagogue . When my children were of age to go to hebrew school we joined a Conservadox temple .The Rabbi and Cantor were Orthodox and the congregants had the choice of seperate or mixed seating .
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Again, I think we have more in common! We had Confirmation (at 13) for both boys and girls, but only boys were Bar Mitzvah. We went to Temple earlier since there were not many children at the Synagogue.

We also had Othodox Rabbi's, but 99.99 % of congregation were somewhere between Othodox and Reform !

At times we had "official" separate seating with a Mehitazh (sp!), other times we didn't. Sometimes we had a Rabbi, sometimes we didn't.

I like your Conservadox designation!
Right now the men can sit separately on one side, the women can sit separately on the other and the middle is mixed. This is what's happening today! Next week it could all be different !

Re Aleinu, we always "bowed the head and bent the knee" at the appropriate place. There were also places in the Amidah where we "bowed and bent".

I dressed as Queen Esther (along with the other girl's) for several years in elementary and junior high school! Poppyseed hamentashen, one of my favorites!
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Again, I think we have more in common! We had Confirmation (at 13) for both boys and girls, but only boys were Bar Mitzvah. We went to Temple earlier since there were not many children at the Synagogue.

We also had Othodox Rabbi's, but 99.99 % of congregation were somewhere between Othodox and Reform !

At times we had "official" separate seating with a Mehitazh (sp!), other times we didn't. Sometimes we had a Rabbi, sometimes we didn't.

I like your Conservadox designation!
Right now the men can sit separately on one side, the women can sit separately on the other and the middle is mixed. This is what's happening today! Next week it could all be different !

Re Aleinu, we always "bowed the head and bent the knee" at the appropriate place. There were also places in the Amidah where we "bowed and bent".

I dressed as Queen Esther (along with the other girl's) for several years in elementary and junior high school! Poppyseed hamentashen, one of my favorites!
I asked somebody today who is more versed into judiasm than I am and she never heard what you posted .On Tuesday night I should have a difinitive answer .

When I was 10 I dressed as a hobo and won first prize at the Purim carneval .I still have my prize ,a book of poems and short stories :The Stranger Within Thy Gates by Sulamith Ish Kishor . Mun (poppyseed) is my alltime favorite .

The Conservadox synagogue was the only one designated as such in NYC .Unfortunately it closed in 2000 .
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Sooooo, what's your interpretation of "ad lo yada", or imbibing to blur the difference between Mordecai and Haman? I've seen (and participated in ) this Purim tradition in past years.

I hope to get an answer by tonight and if so I will post it before I go to sleep.
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We have been fortunate enough to be invited by friends to attend the local Purim celebration several times. It is interesting and a lot of fun. The congregation here is small and family oriented and the children are a big focus of the celebration.

The history of the Book of Esther and Purim is fascinating. The very word "purim" which is translated in the King James Bible as "the lot" (because the king is said to have cast lots to determine the date to slaughter the Jews) is of uncertain meaning and origin.

Esther is the only book of the Bible which does not mention the name of God.

The book was certainly written during the period of the Babylonian Exile, during which many of the books of the Old Testament reached their final form. It is interesting to note how it reflects the Babylonian cosmology, just as the Creation story in Genesis does, for example.

The heroine of the book is Esther, and the prime female goddess of Babylon was Ishtar. Her uncle Mordecai has a name very similar to Marduk, a principal Babylonian god. Many authors suggest that the book derives its origin from a Babylonian mythos. Others disagree, for example Book of Esther

Whatever the case may be, the kids and the adults we have associated with have a lot of fun at Purim. There certainly was no emphasis on drinking of alcohol in the congregation we visited. We feel fortunate that we were invited to participate.
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We have been fortunate enough to be invited by friends to attend the local Purim celebration several times. It is interesting and a lot of fun. The congregation here is small and family oriented and the children are a big focus of the celebration.

The history of the Book of Esther and Purim is fascinating. The very word "purim" which is translated in the King James Bible as "the lot" (because the king is said to have cast lots to determine the date to slaughter the Jews) is of uncertain meaning and origin.

Esther is the only book of the Bible which does not mention the name of God.

The book was certainly written during the period of the Babylonian Exile, during which many of the books of the Old Testament reached their final form. It is interesting to note how it reflects the Babylonian cosmology, just as the Creation story in Genesis does, for example.

The heroine of the book is Esther, and the prime female goddess of Babylon was Ishtar. Her uncle Mordecai has a name very similar to Marduk, a principal Babylonian god. Many authors suggest that the book derives its origin from a Babylonian mythos. Others disagree, for example Book of Esther

Whatever the case may be, the kids and the adults we have associated with have a lot of fun at Purim. There certainly was no emphasis on drinking of alcohol in the congregation we visited. We feel fortunate that we were invited to participate.
I've never been at a Purim service where alcohol was consumed .
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