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Old July 28th, 2013, 04:43 PM
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Default Courts Quietly Confirm MMR Vaccine Causes Autism

I normally don't start a post on here that is not cruise-related, but this one caught my attention and thought I'd make an exception in this case.


Obviously, I don't know the validity of the article, nonetheless, as a parent and a grandparent, I figured it was worth posting as a 'must read' so that others could decide for themselves whether the information is important or not.

http://www.whiteoutpress.com/timeless/courts-quietly-confirm-mmr-vaccine-causes-autism/


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Thank you so much for posting this
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I have always believed that certain vaccines caused autism in certain kids.
I think many kids have no reaction to them but for others it triggers it.
Thanks for sharing.
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In all fairness, I've done some more reading on the issue. I thought this was a well-stated article on the matter; Does the MMR Vaccine Cause Autism? - DukeHealth.org

Basically, it appears they have not unequivocally proved it either way and from what I'm reading, there are just as many doctors saying you should get three separate injections over a course of months and not take the chance as there are those saying it doesn't present a problem giving one combined injection.

But it does present an interesting and eye-opening situation, which is always a good thing. While you can never have too much information on any given issue, in today's electronic environment, sometimes it can be quite overwhelming.

Personally, if it were my child, I wouldn't want to take a chance, as minimal as it might be and wished I had all this information sooner so I could make a choice in the matter.

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I firmly believe my brother's autism was caused by a vaccine. I was unclear which one caused it and some vaccines are very important to the health of children. But others have risks and parents need to be aware of this. Thanks for posting this information. I do know autism is more common in boys then girls so I'm wondering how that impacts the MMR Vaccine. It's 4 to 1 ratio. 4 males for each female diagnosed.
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I personally believe that kids are "over vaccinated". The current CDC, recommended, immunization schedule has a child receiving almost 70 vaccinations and boosters by age six. Many of these vaccines have been found to have a low efficacy rate. The mumps vaccine is a good example of this. In the early 2000's there was a large outbreak among college students and most of them had been vaccinated.

There is a "social responsibility" that people also have to take into consideration. Diseases like Rubella, Whooping cough, polio are still endemic in society and can flare up at any time. Non-vaccinated children and adults can make any of these go epidemic and cause serious results.

Diseases like mumps, chicken pox and red measles are not without side effects but, from my research, the vaccinations cause more risk than the actual disease.

BTW: Mumps can cause sterility in adults but the chances are about 1 in 10,000 and that's 1 in 10,000 of the adults that get mumps. It's far less than the number of people who catch a cold and develop pneumonia.

Am I against immunizations? No. Am I against over immunization? Absolutely. I am also against the "combining" of immunizations. Doctors make it hard to just get a measles and rubella vaccination without including the mumps vaccine. "Oh, we only have the MMR vaccine and not the individual vaccinations. It's OK just take the one we have." A lot of people just say "OK" and take it because doctors "always" know best.

In regard to vaccines causing autism. Perhaps, but I personally know two "unvaccinated" children who have autism.

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I agree with what you say Mike, the problem is that in most States, it's mandatory for children to have these immunizations before they're allowed to go to school. They have good intentions, but in their rush to insure the safety of our kids, they fail to understand that sometimes there can be dire circumstances to their decisions. As with the MMR, once they've made their decision, they don't want to rethink the situation because then they would have to admit they may have made a mistake, which would open them up to litigation. And, as we all know, it's always about the money.

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I agree with what you say Mike, the problem is that in most States, it's mandatory for children to have these immunizations before they're allowed to go to school. They have good intentions, but in their rush to insure the safety of our kids, they fail to understand that sometimes there can be dire circumstances to their decisions. As with the MMR, once they've made their decision, they don't want to rethink the situation because then they would have to admit they may have made a mistake, which would open them up to litigation. And, as we all know, it's always about the money.

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People need to check "the fine print" in their state. In Minnesota most people, even teachers, believe that children MUST be vaccinated with all recommended vaccinations before they can start school. That is not the case. Parents can opt out but the child is tracked for the duration of their time in school by the state health department. If there is an outbreak these children are the first to be checked to see if they are "patient zero".

My granddaughter's school had a small outbreak of pertussis in 20011. It was only four children but all had been vaccinated. The children who had been opted out had no sign of the disease.

My daughter chose to vaccinate for all major diseases but opted out for chicken pox, mumps and some others. She also had separate vaccinations for pertussis and tetanus and did not have the kids vaccinated with the combined DPT.

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It is with some regret that my very first post on CM is with regard to this thread.

Please, people - while no one can feel another's anguish and daily difficulty of raising a child with autism, it is with utmost respect that I say: That link is junk.

The courts do not "do" science or experiments or post theories and results for peer review. They simply determined that there is a greater than 50% likelihood that, in THIS CASE ALONE, that child had his brain harmed in some fashion by a vaccine.

Please read the case. Please. While science continues to dig away at mysteries such as these, the mere posting and circulating of this link will spread the unproven science to the next generation of folks who do more gossiping than researching.

Please don't trounce me here - I am not saying there won't (one day) be a conclusive find. I am saying - this ain't it. Do not spread that stuff, it only gets in the way of actual science.

Please - before you believe that article - read the case, not someone's summary of it. Understand what the court declared, and then understand that it's a court, not a laboratory.

Regarding Stephen Walker's research, mentioned in the same article, Dr. Walker's own words are, "“We haven’t done anything to demonstrate that the measles virus is causing autism or even causing bowel disease.”

Always read the case and the science and the medicine yourself - there is no substitute.
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