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Old May 24th, 2006, 05:06 PM
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Hello, just writing to update anyone who is thinking of applying or returning to a Celebrity ship. The "staff" which is Gift shop, spa, casino, ect.. have been taken down to *crew which means we aren't allowed in a LOT of guests areas anymore. Casino department fought and got their statis back and now are considered entertainers but the rest of us are still crew. Falls in for the Managers as well--they've lost a stripe so basically you work and go back down after work. This is currently on the Infinity and soon will be fleet wide on CELEBRITY. So if your going back just to let you know rules might be changing during your contract.

Anyway which ever ship your on--have fun!!!
**There's always the crew bar --right!!!
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I don't like this. Some of the best conversations I've had have been with some of the staff members while I've been at the pool or having a drink at the bar.

I know that all of the crew can't be out amongst the crew but there should be a number who socialize with the passengers.

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I used to work with Celebrity as Youth Staff and even though we had to be in uniform the one perk was going to the clubs and Formal nights going out! Is this too taken away?

Now I work with Carnival Cruise Lines as a Teen Program Director and Carnival treats their employees much better, we have no curphews unlike Celebrity was it 3 am in public areas! Carnival alows us in the as staff member to be free and I don't ever wear a uniform.

On Carnival I have spoke to some interesting guests from all over and have even bought a couple of rounds.

Carnival Cruise Lines is known to care about their staff and I would not go back to Celebrity even if I got paid to!


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Hello, just writing to update anyone who is thinking of applying or returning to a Celebrity ship. The "staff" which is Gift shop, spa, casino, ect.. have been taken down to *crew which means we aren't allowed in a LOT of guests areas anymore. Casino department fought and got their statis back and now are considered entertainers but the rest of us are still crew. Falls in for the Managers as well--they've lost a stripe so basically you work and go back down after work. This is currently on the Infinity and soon will be fleet wide on CELEBRITY. So if your going back just to let you know rules might be changing during your contract.

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This is too bad, but not too surprising. Note he said Spa, Giftshop, Casino and some of the "minor" officers (not sure what that is). On a lot of ships the shoppies and spa have never had a lot of public access. Note that on most ships those jobs (and casino) are usually concessionaires.

I don't know about Carnival staff - but as I recall on Holland America the concessionaires did not have a lot of public access either (but why would I remember, I was usually in my cabin anyway) in any case, I remember the shop & spa girls used to eat in the buffet, but they were only allowed to come in 15 minutes before closing.

The key has always been "crew" vs "staff" as I have said here so many times, ands generally the staff are the people under the aegis of the cruise director which normally means:

Entertainers (the whole department, stage managers, musicians, DJs etc...)
Asst Cruise directors (some ships have 4 or 5 of these)
Hostesses
Kids & teens coordinators
Anyone in "sales" (art auctioneers, cruise sales, shore-ex)

For "officers" that always means the navigational staff, but it also means pursers, front office people, etc.

The "crew" is comprised of waiters, cooks, stewards, deck-hands, etc. They are only allowed in public areas while on duty.

The gray areas (these may or may not be concessionaires. but usually are) photographers, spa, shoppies, casino. If you are getting one of these jobs privileges vary depending on who you work for.
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I can't believe they can do that. It's been a long time since I worked on ships, 10 years now, but I still remember we could at least sit in a lounge and feel human on formal nights.
I worked on HAL. RCCL, NCL and Carnival, Carnival was always the most relaxed as far as rules.

It must be someone who has never worked on a ship who made that rule! How do they expect to keep morale up if they take what little privelages they have, away!

Ship contracts are going to have to be made shorter and raise the wages otherwise, 6-9 months is a long time to be made to feel you are second class citizens and like children, 'sent to your room' (well crew areas)
I guess crew bar must really rock now!! They still have crew bars on all ships right?
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Crew bars!--OH yes!! I just talked to a friend on the Galaxy though and she told me on that ship they are getting warnings if found in the crew bar past 2:30am. For the Casino department and others that work later then 2--that sucks!! But hey is it Shocking?? IT'S CELEBRITY!!
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i just came off the millennium from an 8 month contract, and i'm heading to chile tomorrow to join the infinity, and i've had mixed reactions to the "new rules"

i work as a shoppie, and was in europe when these rules came into effect. the biggest change was no smoking in public areas, which i agree with. celebrity is trying to downsize the smoking areas on the ship, and since most crew and staff smoke, cutting that out in guest areas really reduces the amount of smoke on the ship.

the rules really only affected the casino, shoppies, spa, and photographers (everyone else that is staff is considered entertainers). the rules limited the amount of public lounges the staff could socialize in.

now, if you have cruised on celebrity before, you know that it attracts an older and not a typical party crowd. removing the staff from the bars on most nights really cut back from the revenue. i remember hearing that revenue went down by a considerable amount in the bars after the staff were blocked from drinking there.

but, as weeks went by, the rules became relaxed, and now most of the "new rules" aren't in affect anymore (except for the smoking one). so the martini bar is back (my favorite for an after-work drink on formal nights), as is the disco (great during high season when there is a younger crowd on).


but... if you ask most crew and staff, the bars onboard are much more exciting (and much much cheaper) than the public lounges.
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