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Old March 8th, 2008, 03:16 PM
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Are crew members allowed to visit guest cabins or have a drink in a bar with a guest.
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Old March 8th, 2008, 06:53 PM
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"crew" aren't usually allowed in guest areas. Staff and officers are allowed and can have drinks with guest, according to the lines and/or hotel directors guidelines.

Usually anyone who works onboard is strongly prohibited from going into a guests cabin unless that have a business reason - i.e. housekeeping, room service, maintenance. My line, you can be fired - no questions asked - if caught. If its a friend or familly situation - we have a form that's filled out after the guest has boarded and passed by security, dining room mgr, our boss & staff captain thats signed by the guest.

Remember how litigious our society is in regards to ethics, harrasment, and assault.

You might want to visit the "Love Stories" area on cruisecritic if you want to read some interesting stories
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absolutely not.. crew are not allowed anywhere on the ship in guest areas, unless they are on their shift and that is where they are suposed to be working. Once their shift is over- they must go below deck to crew areas and their cabins. In my opinion it is not fair and they deserve more freedom.

In my case however, I am dating a crew member- just went a cruise last week... the guy I am seeing got papers approved and stamped stating I was his fiance and that he could go to my cabin # and certain guest areas.. He said I was his fiance so they would approve it.

Anyway, so one night we were out alone at about 2 in the morning on top deck at the front of the ship looking up at the stars... He said to me- you know in over 8 years of working on these ships, I have never been able to see this. HOW SAD IS THAT!!!!
He is a waiter, so basically he cant leave the dining hall- WHICH MEANS- he can never go outside on the ship!! How sad and unfair. He is either in the dining hall or on Deck 1- crew areas. Thats not right and crew should be allowed more freedom!!
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On the other hand - crew like waiters and others have probably been more ashore in the ports as I as a safety officer have...

I think animal right has an unrealistic view of the life and welfare of the crew considering the contents of her previous posts.
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No, they dont get much time at all- on RCI they have to iether work breakfast or lunch in the Winjammer and be back early enough to prepare for main seating in the dining hall. You cant do too much in 2 hours unless you fly to where you want to get.
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No, they dont get much time at all- on RCI they have to iether work breakfast or lunch in the Winjammer and be back early enough to prepare for main seating in the dining hall. You cant do too much in 2 hours unless you fly to where you want to get.
If you work breakfast you have plenty of time to go ashore. I've seen that with my own eyes.
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Animal Rights, your logic is very flawed. The crew work for the cruiseline. Part of the pay for that work is that they get room and board. They are not allowed to "mingle" with the guest because they are not guest.
I always enjoy the crew, I love to speak with them when possible, and I tip them extra. I am not trying to demean them in any way. BUT, they are working. The rules are understood before they agree to work.
So, it is fair that they follow the rules of employment.
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Amen to you reverendjeff

As I just said in another post - I'm a crewmember and I really don't like being out with the pax because they ask WAY too many personal questions.

If I go to a nice resort or hotel on land, I don't expect to see my housekeeper, waiter, etc sitting next to me at the pool - or a bunch of them taking up all the space at the bar, or putting the make on me to get their green card . . . that's why those types of rules are in place for cruise lines, hotels, resorts, some theme parks, etc, etc. Guests pay for an exclusive experience and I personally have no problem with that and am glad the rules are there.

I don't mind not having a day or weekend off for months at a stretch. I have TWO MONTHS off straight a couple times a year that more than makes up for it!

When I worked for NCL, I did the take out of the Sun. For about 3-4 weeks straight, I worked 18 to 20 hour shifts in the shipyard. Not much a/c, crappy food, strange politics and the job settled into a 10-12 hour a day gig. Very character building and I wouldn't change having that experience for anything -

As MrMate alludes to - some of the marine officers and deck/engine crew almost NEVER get off the ship during the contract - maybe going as far as the dock itself for work purposes or to make a quick phone call, or taking out rescue/lifeboats. Rest of the time - they're working for the welfare of everyone who's living, working or passing time on the ship, wheather it's safety, security, making sure your shower is hot, hair dryer works and getting you to your destinations safely.

We go into ship jobs knowing exactly what we're getting into. So please don't speak for this RCI worker
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If you're a Social Host who is off duty are you permitted in the guest areas? I've seen Social Hosts who have been in the dance clubs etc and they were the life of the party! Is this an assignment for them or their choice to spend their off time there?

Just looking for some insight
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I have seen one eception to all of this and that was on HAL. It was an Alaska cruise and the first cruise of the season. So, the captain gave all crew the okay to go up on deck to see the glaciers. Not surprisingly, that was a happier group of crew members than usual and, while I agree that normally the rules are the rules, I applauded his willingness to see the crew as people, not "worker bees".
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I have seen one eception to all of this and that was on HAL. It was an Alaska cruise and the first cruise of the season. So, the captain gave all crew the okay to go up on deck to see the glaciers. Not surprisingly, that was a happier group of crew members than usual and, while I agree that normally the rules are the rules, I applauded his willingness to see the crew as people, not "worker bees".
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Was that the Noordam? I was on the 1st one last year, as well. Many of the crew were allowed to hang out in the Northern Lights Disco at night. There were always show kids as well as bartenders and waiters as well as officers. It was the ONLY happening place on teh ship after 10pm! There were usually more crew than passengers.
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I have seen one eception to all of this and that was on HAL. It was an Alaska cruise and the first cruise of the season. So, the captain gave all crew the okay to go up on deck to see the glaciers. Not surprisingly, that was a happier group of crew members than usual and, while I agree that normally the rules are the rules, I applauded his willingness to see the crew as people, not "worker bees".
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Same thing happened when we were bringing the Carnival Elation from Fla thru the Panama Canal heading for Calif. Like us Pax most of the crew had never seen the Panama Canal. Since this was a Repo criuse I guess the rules were relaxed somewhat because I have never seen that many crew topside at one time. They got to enjoy the voyage and transit just as we did and that was a good thing. 8)
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If you're a Social Host who is off duty are you permitted in the guest areas? I've seen Social Hosts who have been in the dance clubs etc and they were the life of the party! Is this an assignment for them or their choice to spend their off time there?

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They were most probably assigned there to lead the party. But hosts are allowed in public areas as well. On some ships they need a written permission from their department head.
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Animal Rights, the crew is very familiar with the terms of their contract.
It says clearly inside that they would not be able to mingle with pax or use pax areas of the ship.
Would it surprise you to find out that many indians and pilipinos prefer to eat their favorite food (rice) with fingers instead of forks or spoons?
The places they live in would be shocking to you.

Probably the strongest reason company does not like mixing of pax and crew lays in the fact that pax would find out that their "escape complitely" trip is built on hard working and underpaying crew.
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We have been on three different cruiselines and found that it varies greatly from line to line. On Carnival Liberty the off-duty crew (not just officers and hosts) seemed to mingle with guest quite often, but not as much on NCL, and not at all on Disney. If you find it intriguing to hang out with the crew, find out if they have a day off while in port and meet them there. This has worked out for us more than once.
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Hi,
When working on the cruise ships I'm classed as a Gent (Guest Entertainer) therefore I'm allowed in all the Pax areas. I can even have a drink in the casino's but not allowed to play any of the tables or slots.

As well as the pax areas i'm also allowed in the crew bars, wardies and mess's.

Its very strange to be given the 'run of the ship' but its great to be able to use both areas.
Most of the crew I've chatted to wouldnt want to use any of the pax areas, with the exception of going topside for some of the stunning views.

Most of the time the crew I've met are happy with their lot, and as stated elsewhere in this thread they know the rules before they sign up. Most are there to earn money for their families and to save for a house in their own country tho.

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Now that makes it a lot clearer. Are the spa and bar employees considered "GENTs"? Because these were some of the staff that we drank and danced with till the wee hours of the morning on Carnival.
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