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CruzerBoy August 22nd, 2009 07:52 PM

When Crew Disembark
 
Are crew members (specifically Princess) allowed to stay for a few days R&R at their disembarkation port before flying home? Is specific shore leave permission required?

sz August 23rd, 2009 12:01 PM

Depends on the home port rules and your citizenship. And generally if you divert from the travel arrangements the company gives you, you have to pay for your own ticket home

If the home port is in the US and you're a US citizen, no problem. If not US, you have to fly out of the country (as you need a C1-D seamans visa to enter and work on the ship), your C1-D is cancelled and you'd have to re-enter on a tourist visa.

For other countries home port/citizenships, it really depends on the individual countries rules

Kamloops Cruiser August 23rd, 2009 07:08 PM

I think that most of the crew from Asia would be in a hurry to get

home to Indonesia , Phillipaines etc . see and visit family/friends

MrMate September 2nd, 2009 07:29 AM

I don't know if rules have changed, but when I was with NCL, we could transfer to the passenger list a few days before our end of contract and then stay up to three months in the US. I'm a norwegian citizen.

I heard rules are much stricter the later years, so I guess it's the first flight out.

jeana November 24th, 2009 03:29 PM

Shore leave permission is required (in addition to visas and other requirements of the country you are disembarking in). On Princess, you must request shore leave permission at least 45 days in advance of disembarkation. It is not automatically guaranteed that you will receive permission.

Paul Motter December 16th, 2009 05:47 PM

Boy - things have changed. When I worked on ships we could just say "um, please make my air ticket out for a few days later, i want to stay in the port a couple of days.

That was WAY back when, though. I actually understand very little of what these people above are saying.

I know as a US citizen when I disembarked in Germany I was simply on my own - I had a passport and I spent 3 weeks touring Europe. When I was flown to a ship, I happened to be going to Hawaii, so I flew in a few days early and just laid on the beach.

There are a LOT of organizations that work specifcally with "seamen" worldwide, though, and if you work on ships it is worth getting to know them. You can find cheap rooms to sleep in and cheap places to eat in many port cities that way.

Bruce Chafkin1 April 10th, 2010 06:19 AM

The rules change on a daily basis.
I am a US citizen who lives in Asia.
When I signed off a Princess Ship in New York, I was told that I had to exit the USA within 24 hours.
When I politely pointed out to the Immigration Officer that I had a US passport and was born and raised in the USA, his response was, "You don't live here. You must be out within 24 hours."

Welcome to America. I was quite happy to leave.

unfdoug September 23rd, 2010 01:01 AM

I was dating a girl on a Carnival ship out of Jacksonville who was from Canada. When it was time for her to go on leave, they made her fly directly to Canada ( it could have been less than 45 days notice).... that or she had another guy in Canada :)

ming127 November 28th, 2010 01:26 AM

what if i disembark in spain and i m a european passport holder??

when company book our ticket home..do we have choice of which airline we want to fly with??

is company going to arrange the transfer from port to airport for us???

Phil&Liz November 28th, 2010 11:02 AM

Man this stuff can get complicated.....
Short answer..

Can I Apply For Extension of Stay on US Transit Visa?

6. How long can I stay in the U.S. on C-1 visa?

You may stay for a maximum of 29 days in the U.S. on C-1 visa. You are required to leave the U.S. on the proposed flight or ship of departure, or within 29 days, whichever is earlier.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

7. Can I apply for extension of stay on C-1 visa?

No, you may not extend your stay on C-1 visa. If you want to extend your stay you should apply for appropriate
B-1/B-2 visas or can travel on Visa Waiver Program.

Note: If a foreign national seeks layover privileges for purposes other than for transit through the U.S. (for example, to visit friends or engage in sightseeing), he/she will have to qualify for the type of visa required for that purpose.

sissymaryuk November 28th, 2010 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ming127 (Post 1331017)
what if i disembark in spain and i m a european passport holder??

when company book our ticket home..do we have choice of which airline we want to fly with??

is company going to arrange the transfer from port to airport for us???

If you want to stay in Spain you can, but you'll have to pay for your own ticket home.
No you cannot choose the airline.
Yes RCCL will get you from the port to the airport.

radiofreebc January 22nd, 2011 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MrMate (Post 1245345)
I don't know if rules have changed, but when I was with NCL, we could transfer to the passenger list a few days before our end of contract and then stay up to three months in the US. I'm a norwegian citizen.

I heard rules are much stricter the later years, so I guess it's the first flight out.

These days, if you want to stay in the US...it's pretty much impossible. They've become so paranoid and xenophobic that they actually have TSA agents escort you from the ships (they come on the bus), right to your gate (after they molest you). They actually walk with you to your gate. That's in big centres...maybe not everywhere. Last time that happened to me though, I was like "do you really have to do this? don't you have better things to do? i'm from canada...i don't want to live in the states." when i said that, he looked at me and said "i don't blame you...have a nice day" and he walked off. haha...i thought that was pretty funny, and kind of sad.

what happened to the usa? i grew up in hawaii, and it was amazing...over the last 10 years, something's changed.

in other countries, you do have to pretty much go to the airport and go home, but it does depend on where you're from, and where you are. there's no easy answer to this.

sometimes you'll have an overnight, but these days you don't usually get to stay in a country very long afterwards...since the flight schedulers who work for the lines just book you on the cheapest, soonest flight.

Phil&Liz January 22nd, 2011 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by radiofreebc (Post 1344974)
...what happened to the usa? i grew up in hawaii, and it was amazing...over the last 10 years, something's changed.

Read the news lately? !
We've become (read made ourselves) a target for bad guys. This is the response to that threat. Maybe not the best choice of actions but it is what it is.

Canada, and in particular BC, has issues with their Indian/Pak communities, too. The impression a country gives its visitors is far reaching.

Recently on his blog, John Heald talked about how, because he sometimes does not arrive in the US to go directly to the ship, he gets a trip to the "special room" by the border patrol folks. He is English and fairly high on the ranks in CCL.

Many Americans are outraged by the new tactics of our border patrol/TSA but the alternatives are to have a freely open border and the consequences that brings.

radiofreebc January 22nd, 2011 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil&Liz (Post 1345100)
Read the news lately? !
We've become (read made ourselves) a target for bad guys. This is the response to that threat. Maybe not the best choice of actions but it is what it is.

Canada, and in particular BC, has issues with their Indian/Pak communities, too. The impression a country gives its visitors is far reaching.

Recently on his blog, John Heald talked about how, because he sometimes does not arrive in the US to go directly to the ship, he gets a trip to the "special room" by the border patrol folks. He is English and fairly high on the ranks in CCL.

Many Americans are outraged by the new tactics of our border patrol/TSA but the alternatives are to have a freely open border and the consequences that brings.

This is a joke, right? I'm sorry, but you actually think terrorists are after you? Do you know that there are less than 2000 actual "terrorists" in the entire world? Al Qaeda was created by the CIA (mujahadeen), and Osama Bin Laden is actually Tim Osman...a CIA asset, used as a patsy in the 9/11 attack. His father was actually in a meeting with George Bush Sr. during the attack. Usually terrorists claim their crimes...Bin Laden denied ANY involvement...unless you call that faked tape they found proof. Look at it...it's not even him! I know all arabs look alike to some people, but look closer this time.

If you want proof (and this might blow your mind), look at his FBI wanted poster...do you see 9/11 mentioned at all on it? Why not? Because they don't actually think he did it. He's just the person the media uses to push the agenda (against you) these days. Does the TSA security "theatre" really protect us? No. Go ahead...here's the link to his wanted poster. FBI — USAMA BIN LADEN

I'm sorry, I know this is a rant, and it sounds Un-American, but it's not. I love the states, and the people...but terrorists don't want to destroy the USA...unless you're talking about the major banks, corporations and globalists who want a one-world government, global currency, and free-trade. They're the true terrorists and the enemy...not radical islamics (which, honestly, number less than 2000 people globally). The statistics don't lie. More people died from drowning in their sink last year than from terrorism. The bailouts were financial terrorism

I live in BC...that "problem" you're talking about isn't nearly as big as the media claims it is. It's the media's job to keep us scared, docile and buying products...not to be informing us. It's not nearly what you think it is, but you're just watching the news...and the news lies. I was an editor for a television news station for 2 years, and I quit when I was asked to add sound effects to carpet bombing footage to make it seem more than it was.

If you'd like some real news, I can help you find some great sources. If you'd like to continue believing the propaganda the corporate media feeds you, just turn Fox or CNN back up. It's not reality. It's crisis, packaged to keep you glued to your set, and afraid of your neighbours.

I hope you don't think I'm anti-American. I'm not. I love your country, but fear that it's going down a path that leads to ruin...unless you all work to stop it. You're the only ones who can. Look at what's happening in Europe and northern Africa. People are rising up. When will you? Please don't believe what you see on TV. Sure, people have issues with the USA, but they have problems of their own to deal with. Nobody is trying to bomb you guys. All those terror attacks you see on the news...they're actually false-flag events, usually done to push bills and laws. The underwear bomber is a perfect example of that. He was a CIA asset that didn't even need a passport to get on the plane. He was escorted onto the plane by agents...think about that for a bit. I can send you proof of all of this if you're interested, and if you really want to know the truth behind 9/11...listen to the thousands of architects and engineers who have forensic proof that the buildings were brought down by controlled demolition. http://ae911truth.org.

I know it sucks...it really does. But, we've all been lied to, and it's time to get mad about it, and stop believing the hype. Maybe watch "Network" again...because that's the modern media landscape.

krosli January 22nd, 2011 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radiofreebc (Post 1345196)
This is a joke, right? I'm sorry, but you actually think terrorists are after you? Do you know that there are less than 2000 actual "terrorists" in the entire world? Al Qaeda was created by the CIA (mujahadeen), and Osama Bin Laden is actually Tim Osman...a CIA asset, used as a patsy in the 9/11 attack. His father was actually in a meeting with George Bush Sr. during the attack. Usually terrorists claim their crimes...Bin Laden denied ANY involvement...unless you call that faked tape they found proof. Look at it...it's not even him! I know all arabs look alike to some people, but look closer this time.

If you want proof (and this might blow your mind), look at his FBI wanted poster...do you see 9/11 mentioned at all on it? Why not? Because they don't actually think he did it. He's just the person the media uses to push the agenda (against you) these days. Does the TSA security "theatre" really protect us? No. Go ahead...here's the link to his wanted poster. FBI USAMA BIN LADEN

I'm sorry, I know this is a rant, and it sounds Un-American, but it's not. I love the states, and the people...but terrorists don't want to destroy the USA...unless you're talking about the major banks, corporations and globalists who want a one-world government, global currency, and free-trade. They're the true terrorists and the enemy...not radical islamics (which, honestly, number less than 2000 people globally). The statistics don't lie. More people died from drowning in their sink last year than from terrorism. The bailouts were financial terrorism

I live in BC...that "problem" you're talking about isn't nearly as big as the media claims it is. It's the media's job to keep us scared, docile and buying products...not to be informing us. It's not nearly what you think it is, but you're just watching the news...and the news lies. I was an editor for a television news station for 2 years, and I quit when I was asked to add sound effects to carpet bombing footage to make it seem more than it was.

If you'd like some real news, I can help you find some great sources. If you'd like to continue believing the propaganda the corporate media feeds you, just turn Fox or CNN back up. It's not reality. It's crisis, packaged to keep you glued to your set, and afraid of your neighbours.

I hope you don't think I'm anti-American. I'm not. I love your country, but fear that it's going down a path that leads to ruin...unless you all work to stop it. You're the only ones who can. Look at what's happening in Europe and northern Africa. People are rising up. When will you?

That is really a good insight to the whole terrorism tale and what not. I guess it makes sense that all these terrorism thing are blown off proportion ( No pun intended )

Where in BC are you at? I am from the lower mainland.

radiofreebc January 25th, 2011 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krosli (Post 1345212)
That is really a good insight to the whole terrorism tale and what not. I guess it makes sense that all these terrorism thing are blown off proportion ( No pun intended )

Where in BC are you at? I am from the lower mainland.

Thanks...I'm from Vancouver. I've been lucky enough to have travelled around the world on cruise ships for a long time, and I've met some amazing people from all different cultures and backgrounds...including Americans. Hey, if I offended anyone with my previous post, I'm sorry. I have nothing against the states, or Americans I just think it's getting crazy with the whole security thing, and honestly nobody is out to get you (except the banks, and your own gov't). There really aren't that many terrorists, and if you'd just stop blowing up countries for oil (and opium poppies), then I think you'd be able to afford to fix things at home, and we could all get back on track. Times are tough, and you really have bigger things to worry about than terrorism. But, we get it...we've seen that you can bomb people back into the stone age. Please stop...you're just creating more terrorists. This is a self fulfilling prophecy that has to stop. Bring the troops home. They miss you guys, and they're out there sacrificing everything for a system that abandoned them a long time ago. You know it's true. These amazing soldiers are over there, guarding poppy fields. These kids don't know what they're fighting for anymore. It's not freedom. It's just not. They're good kids...bring them home.

As far as security goes, I really think those naked body scanners are creepy (not to mention a HUGE conflict of interest that should be illegal), and the TSA is honestly just sadistic and perverted these days. It's not right...that's not security...that's sexual assault, to be honest. In the least, it's systematic humiliation, intimidation, and security "theatre" that isn't actually making anyone safer. It's only there to keep us in line and submitting to authority. We're good people. The TSA harasses people like my grandma, and my nieces, and it's wrong. Honestly, after working on ships for years, and seeing how lax port security is...they should be focusing on cargo, and SHIP cargo. But, instead they're focusing on 5 year old kids, and that hot girl over there that they'd love to get a naked body scan of. You know, they're saving those files and trading them around. It's sick. You put one of those images in Photoshop, flip the pos/neg, and it's a naked photo...of you. And they're trading them.

Honestly, the security apparatus isn't focused in the right areas at all. People are basically good, but we're all freaked out now, and other countries are starting to following the US paranoia, and now with things like what happened in Russia today, who knows what'll happen out of that. Probably more naked body scanners, I'm guessing. Probably time to buy some stock in that company Michael Chertoff represents...Rapiscan, I think it's called. There...there's a tip. You watch that stock (NASDAQ: OSIS), and it might show you a bit about how this game is actually being played.

Oh, how strange...there was unusually high trading volume on Monday. I wonder why? Hmmm....
http://tinyurl.com/4vrg92n

Follow the money...that's the real way to see through all the fear and hoopla about this. It won't lead you where you think it will though...and that's the bummer that I'm really sorry about.

krosli January 28th, 2011 05:56 PM

It is very interesting to read your post. Always appreciate an honest and unbias opinion.

On a side note, I am from Vancouver too and I will be heading out on my first ship assignment aboard a Princess Cruise as a JAP. Would like to have a chat with you about stuff about the high seas if possible. Email me at khai.rosli@yahoo.ca


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