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Old May 9th, 2012, 11:44 AM
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Of course NO rational person wants to place their safety into someones hands that is high or drunk.

What I am saying though, is that because I am a State legal MJ patient, I could use MJ one evening, wake up the next morning completely fine, go to work, be tested, and fired because I have THC in my system. The same scenario could happen with alcohol and I would be NOT be fired the next morning.

Now all of us who are MJ patients know that this is ridiculousness. The MJ patient would have slept better and have no side effects the next morning. You could not say that with the alcohol user.

All I want is a rational approach to the whole subject. These days it seems that logic and common sense are in short supply.
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Old June 13th, 2013, 05:19 PM
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Bruce Chafkin1 its completely deluded people like you who are ruining law and what it stands for. How you can sit there and tell people they can't have a trace of thc in their system but then go and have a drink and take the day off work hungover the next day. Look at science and how things really are before talking crap.
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Old February 12th, 2015, 11:11 PM
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If the tests sere not so sensitive, and could not detect recent illegal drug use, you might have other issues.

When the airplane you are flying on is in trouble, would you mind if the pilot had taken LSD the week before and still passed his drug test?

If you were a passenger on Costa Concordia, would it bother you that the waiter assigned to save your life was smoking hashish that evening because he had passed his weekly drug test yesterday, and next week's test would not be sensitive enough to notice that he was stoned the night you were in danger?
The biggest problem with these "drug tests" is that they only test for the least harmful of drugs, I can fail for drinking, eating a damn poppyseed muffin, yet people on PCP, Heroin, mushrooms, and crack cocaine will pass, so get off your ******* high horse and get a clue.
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Old February 13th, 2015, 03:55 AM
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The biggest problem with these "drug tests" is that they only test for the least harmful of drugs, I can fail for drinking, eating a damn poppyseed muffin, yet people on PCP, Heroin, mushrooms, and crack cocaine will pass, so get off your ******* high horse and get a clue.

I dont see any logic in your statement.

The most available drug to cruise ship crew is alcohol, its readily available in port and its readily available and super cheap in the crew bar.

Cannabis is probably second to alcohol but its not made "readily available" like alcohol. Crew will have to try and get it in port and then bring it on board and smoke it on board, other wise they will smoke it in port. Either way its usage will not be as high as alcohol.

Other drugs will be available and there are also things like opiate based pain meds that can be abused and are readily available in ports like Cozumel, but useage and demand among crew will be on a much smaller scale.

The average crew member drinks A LOT, every day or twice a day if they go out in port. Some crew members may try and smoke some cannabis but its use amongst crew wont come anywhere near as close to alcohol.

The highest risk factor onboard by far is intoxication by alcohol, therefore the most logical test to do onboard is random alcohol tests, which is what they do.

The percentage of crew using PCP or mushrooms by comparison is going to be none to tiny. Why would you waste time testing for these, when you could be spending time focusing on the statistically highest risk factor??

The number of crew who go back to their cabins drunk at night is far far higher than intoxication from any other drugs.

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Old April 2nd, 2015, 10:31 AM
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what it really come down to is this,... your personal views don't matter when applying for work... there are rules and regulations in place that a lot of us don't agree with everywhere not just CRUISE companies, if you want to apply for a job on a cruise ship, then by all means follow the guidlines and policies and apply, if you fail a drug or alcohol test, that is your fault PERIOD!!! i worked with Princess Cruise Lines for 8 years been drug tested many many times, had a few drinks on board and in Port, Had a lifetimes worth of fun and never once did I complain about their policies.
In saying that, When you work at sea or any environment where there is a high risk of danger, there must be safety rules and guidlines in place to protect you, your crewmates, and the passengers who are PAYING YOU to have a safe vacation, this forum should not be about your personal views... it's not about just you here... so either follow the rules or go get another f*&%king job elswhere and stop complaining...
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