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Patticake,

what is the situation with wearing jeans in the dining room on non formal nights? i would not wear them but some fot he younger people in our group wear jeans everywhere. i know on formal nights they will dress appropriately with no problems but may think the other nights are more lax. i personally think jeans are hot during july in the western carribean, but people wear them all the time everywhere. we are sailing on carnival, victory in july with thae whole family, three generations. thanks for help on this one.

Standards vary between cruise lines and sometimes even betwen destinations on the same cruise line. Since you did not say on which line you are cruising or where you are going, we can't give you a definitive answer for your cruise. The best advice is to follow the guidelines in your cruise documents. If in doubt, advise everybody in your party to bring slacks or skirts and dress shoes for the casual evenings.

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I am definitely a NO JEAN person in the dining room. I don't wear them out to dinner at home, much less on my cruises. Don;t get me wrong I love wear jeans at home during the day..I am a big 7 fan...but for dinner and on cruises...no way. I never take one pair while on cruises. 8)
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I am saving my jeans for the club and maybe the shows...I look and feel sexier in jeans than I do in khakis. My legs are too white for skirts and black dress pants get old....I thought sexy jeans WERE the new black pants? ....Jeans are very sexy with some open toe heels and a sexy halter, spaghetti, or dressy type shirt
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i think i might be able to clarify this a bit for a lot of you first -timers.
The main dining rooms on cruise ships are not set up like your local Appleby's, Chili's, The99- those types of restaurants. The dining rooms will always have fine linens, china, crystal and fine flatware, your servers will always be in uniforms which usually consist of a blazer, white shirt, dress pants- like you would find at a nicer restaurant back home. For most folks that type of restaurant means dressing just a bit above jeans
casual. Men trade the jeans for a nice pair of Dockers type pants and a polo type shirt - easy right?? Ladies trade the jeans for a nice pair of linen trousers, a nice pair of cotton trousers with a nice blouse, a nice skirt with a nice top -- better yet I wear sheath/sundresses- how easy is that to throw on a dress and a pair of flat sandals or kitten heels??
Not making any judgements, just looking at it from a different angle.
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Hi LisaK,

I always enjoy your "angle" (common sense!) !
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I have to agree with Fern...

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thanks Fern & Dave, i try - especially when it comes to "hot button" issues.
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anne, you mentioned that each cruise line has a rule that you can't wear jeans after 6. is this true? the bf and i are going on our first cruise on carnival and although we've settled the formal night attire issue and the khakis and a polo for non-formal nights, he did say he will go back to the room and change right after dinner because he's most comfortable in shorts/jean shorts. i know it's carnival and they seem to be the most relaxed in terms of attire but will this be any kind of issue in the evenings for him to hang out in jean shorts after dinner?
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chosen175 - you will find that alot of people change clothes after dinner. We don't bother changing out of our casual dinner clothes unless we are going into the hot tub or pool.
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Your boyfriend will be fine in jean shorts on Carnival everywhere except in the dining room. Jeans are permitted in Carnival's dining rooms, however shorts are not. You will see quite a few others wearing jeans in the evenings, but will likely only see very few wearing shorts. However, I know of no rule prohibiting shorts after 6 (except in the dining room) and I have worn them myself a few times on both Carnival and Princess.
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Hi chosen175,

The only problem I see is that he might be cold in the public areas (lounges, showrooms, casino, etc.) I'm always too hot, but not in these areas!

If he's "hot-blooded" he'll be okay in shorts .
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As far as the no jean policy on the Princess. If you look at the Alaskan Princess Brochure that they have available online on page 119 of 125 under what to bring. it says: Appropiate attire for casual nights include, skirts/dresses, slacks and sweaters or blouses for ladies and pants and open neck shirts for men. In the dining room, items sure as T-shirts, halter tops and TORN jeans are not permitted, and shoes must be worn at all times.
I myself do not wear jeans in the dining room and my wife doesn't either.. But from what the brochure says, as long as they're not torn it seems that they are allowed. So at least on the Alasken Cruises nobody would be breaking any dress codes.

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I cant believe I am reading some of this stuff here. If the dress code on casual nights says "no jeans" then dont wear jeans. I am speaking of the OFFICIAL dress code, not the "busybody guide to all that is dress" If there is no mention of it (which there is NOT on carnival) then they are acceptable to wear on non formal nights. I wear jeans to work every day. I have one pair of khakis and my suit. Do some of you really expect me to go out and but new khakis because you are too busy worrying about what other people wear than your time abord the ship? People who get worked up about wearing non-faded or non-holey jeans seem way too tense to be on a cruise to me
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Or maybe they really, really need a cruise!

"People who get worked up about wearing non-faded or non-holey jeans seem way too tense to be on a cruise to me"
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I don't understand why people wear jeans anywhere, never mind on a cruise ship. It definitely reflects how they were brought up and in what part of the country. I have never owned a pair of jeans and seemed to have lived my entire life to this point free of "jean trauma". My parents would never allow their children to wear clothes that a farmer or auto mechanic would wear. Jeans are touted as haute couture by the manufacturers and they have brainwashed a good majority of the population into investing huge amounts of money in their products. Lisa is right, the cruise lines set the rules for proper attire and they should be enforced. I sailed last month on the Glory and the Maitre D turned away passengers who were not dressed properly and made an announcement over the PA system.
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I don't understand why people wear jeans anywhere, never mind on a cruise ship. It definitely reflects how they were brought up and in what part of the country.
Just because someone prefers jeans doesn't mean that they are trailer trash or was raised on a pig farm. I'm sure my mom would love the "how they were brought up". My mom even owns a pair of jeans. I dress up all week for work so jeans are my preferred outfit when not working. They are comfortable and durable. I was born in Arkansas and now live in Florida where jeans are perferctly exceptable at just about any place you go. Just because we like jeans does not make us third class people. It doesn't make me a farmer or an auto mechanic. And I know where to wear them and where not to on a cruise ship......or anyplace for that matter. WE jean people do have common sense too.
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It is not what you wear that matters. What matters is the person who wears the clothes.

Now I have done gone and showed my low class again. Darn!
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Floridanamaw,

Just because someone prefers jeans doesn't mean that they are trailer trash or was raised on a pig farm.

*biting tongue very hard to refrain from defending the porcine species from such insults....*

[Jeans] are comfortable and durable.

Well, I'll give you the "durable" part -- which is why they are traditinally worn for farming, construction, and other "dirty" work, and as "play clothes" for children.

Personally, I have NEVER found jeans to be comfortable. Every pair of jeans that I have owned was uncomfortably stiff when it was new enough to look decent, and so faded that I did not want to be seen in it by the time it got "broken in" enough to lose its stiffness. When travelling or hanging out, I'll choose slacks (Dockers, Haggar, etc.) over jeans any time. Even for dirty work, I prefer khaki or "chino" work pants.

WE jean people do have common sense too.

Some have more than others. There are people who know where NOT to wear jeans, and unfortunately there are people who don't. It's the latter who create conflict on many cruise lines.

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Paul,

It is not what you wear that matters. What matters is the person who wears the clothes.

On one level, I agree with you.

On another level, the manner in which we present ourselves -- our attire and our grooming -- are the very first statement of who we are that we make not only to people we meet in the normal course of business, but also to people we may never actually meet but who see us in public places. As such, it has a signiicant impact on the manner in which others respond to us.

If you have doubts, try an experiment sometime. Roll out of bed on a Saturday morning, don a ratty "T" shirt, well worn bluejeans, athletic socks, athletic socks, and ratty sneakers, and go down to the local auto dealer, and tell the sales representative that you are interested in buying a car. The following Saturday, shower and shave, comb your hair neatly, don a polo shirt, dress slacks, dress socks, and dress shoes and go to a similar dealership and make a similar inquiry. If you're still not convinced, try it again with a full business suit. You probably will find that the sales representatives will direct you to very different vehicles based solely on the manner in which you present yourself because the manner in which we present ourselves makes that strong of a statement.

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Norm: You are SOoooo right! As a woman...I've experienced the difference in service from both men and WOMEN!

Doesn't matter if I have the attitude..."Hey...to know me is to love me...don't judge me by what I wear...I've got money!" I consistently get better service from fast food to high end dept. stores when I take the time to dress nice".

Yes, there will be some among us who feel who cares? ...People who judge you by what you wear are shallow and don't matter anyway.

Everyone's FIRST impression is by outward appearance. I mean...we've got eyes! We can't help but notice...if a person is nicely dressed, looks like a business man/woman/ rich or poor, sloppy, or has drool dripping down his chin....Come-on!

If a woman comes in to a local coffee shop...her tight shirt just under her butt...high heels, black fish-net stockings, low, low cut blouse...big ear-rings, tons-of make-up, some of it smeared...and her hair ratted out...you don't immediately think, "oh my god, that must be the new Cardiac Surgeon"

To say we don't judge people by outward appearance...sounds nice...it's certainly a crowd pleaser...and it might make some feel more they are more socially generous than others...but really, this type of thinking is totally unrealistic, condescending and mostly rhetoric anyway!
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Floridanamaw....My statements did not indicate in anyway that if a person wears jeans that they are trailer trash or raised on a pig farm. I simply stated that jean wearers were brought up in a household where jeans were acceptable attire and, most definitely, jeans are worn more in certain States than others (Texas, and apparently Arkansas). My parents wouldn't be caught dead in jeans and never allowed their children to wear them, that's how I was brought up. And, I didn't say that everyone who wears jeans are third class people. Your misinterpretation of my comments serve to create even more controversy.
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Norm, if I go into a car dealership dressed in ratty clothes, I might get a better deal based on the salesman's impression of what I might be willing to pay. If I look prosperous, he might try to soak me.

One think about dressing to make a good impression does bother me. Many of the cruisers who dress impeccably in the dining room on formal nights debark the ship at the ports wearing blobby shorts, ugly T shirts and old sneakers. What type of impression are they trying to make on the natives?

For me, dress slacks are much more comfortable than jeans, so I do not own any jeans. I also think that caps are uncomfortable, but I do wear one to protect my head from the sun.

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This subject can be beat into the ground on both sides. I've met some of the nicest most considerate people that are dressed in jeans and tees, and I have met some of the rudist people dressed that way, the same can be said for people that feel like jeans are unexceptable attire. It doesn't matter what people wear, it's how they act, how they treat other people and what they think of themselves that matter. I might prefer jeans over dress slacks, but I know that I was raised to be a good person, by a mother that wore jeans when she was growing up and still wears jeans sometimes. As far as the car dealership and being dressed up, it doesn't matter what you wear. My dad wears some of the gawd awfulest clothes, but he could walk into a dealer and pay cash for a car or truck if he wanted to. Just tell them, this is a cash sale and you get waited on hand and foot. Doesn't matter what you have on. I may be new to this site but I have learned that the word "jeans" is a dirty word and you don't say "jeans" and "cruise" in the same sentence. I enjoy this site and will continue to read it. Happy cruising to all!!
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if I go into a car dealership dressed in ratty clothes, I might get a better deal based on the salesman's impression of what I might be willing to pay. If I look prosperous, he might try to soak me.

If the salesman is going to try to "soak" you, he's going to try to "soak" you either way. The difference is that if you are dressed in ratty clothes, he'll try to "soak" you on either a used clunker or a "low end" ("stripper") model, whereas if you are well dressed, he'll start off with a better model. In either case, though, if he tries to "soak" you, it's because he thinks that you look stupid -- and it's time to move on to another dealership.

One think about dressing to make a good impression does bother me. Many of the cruisers who dress impeccably in the dining room on formal nights debark the ship at the ports wearing blobby shorts, ugly T shirts and old sneakers.

That has not exactly been my experience, but I obviously have not seen what you have seen. Going ashore, the "tourist" look is best avoided....

For me, dress slacks are much more comfortable than jeans, so I do not own any jeans. I also think that caps are uncomfortable, but I do wear one to protect my head from the sun.

Oh-oh. Something must be very wrong because we agree on both points here.... ;-)

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On a lighter note, anyone who tries to sell me a car when I'm on a cruise hasn't got much sense, common or otherwise!
That's out of my sytem, thankfully. :o
I don't wear jeans because they are too hot for me. Purely a comfort issue. And while I do agree (oh my, we're all agreeing...is the sky falling?) that first impressions are sometimes important, other times, they aren't. Knowing when to care and how much is another aspect of common sense. Do I wear my good jewelry in 3rd world ports? No. Do I wear jewelry of any kind when in the water in the Caribbean? No, barracudas LOVE sparklies, think they are shiny little fish, their favorite snack.
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I think that we have just about beaten this topic to death don't you? I will leave this topic with one last thought. Go with what the cruise line publishes as the appropriate attire for the evening, not what you or any other passenger thinks they can get away with.
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I want to say to BLS, you go girl, lol. I m with ya, you go on a cruisem to have fun, who the heck cares what other people think. Too much drama about what people wear. I hate drama.
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Christy,

I want to say to BLS, you go girl, lol. I m with ya, you go on a cruisem to have fun, who the heck cares what other people think.

Well, you just might have a bit more fun if the other passengers on the ship think that you are somebody that they would like to meet than if the other psssengers on ths ship think that they don't want to be near you....

Yes, first imrpessions -- formed before you actually meet them -- do make a difference!

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Unfortunately that is the way of our society these days, and that is called progress. AAAH, to go back to the Little House on the Praire days, or on Walton Mountain, where it didn't matter what you wore. You were treated with respect because you were a person, not because of what you had on. There was a man who wore overalls, and drove a old beat up truck everyday. Care to guess you he was...Sam Walton...yes the Wal-mart guy. I'll save my first impressions for after I have talked to someone, then form my opinion about them. That's the way it should be.
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A lady after my own heart. I go into the dining room to look at my food rather than the clothing of others.

I believe in wearing clothes that are comfortable . For me, a tux is not, and a suit is barely tolerable. It is a lot more fun to be low class and enjoy yourself than snooty and go around judging others.

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