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Old January 25th, 2003, 02:23 PM
Vladimir Drobashevsky
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Default Discounts for desabled cruisers

So far ,every link seems to show all kinds of discounts for non-disabled cruisers.
This Sept 23 will be our cruise number 13, and since my wife is disabled now for four years, we always book a HP cabin, but never with any discount, or God forbid,
any upgrades. Are we missing something, and
why are our Pittsburgh AAA TAs (and other TAs) hasitating to go the extra mile?
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Vladimir and Elfrieda
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Old January 25th, 2003, 08:28 PM
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My husband is wheechair bound and we wil be taking our 4th cruise with Celebrity this May. We always book any cruise we're taking either on board ship or in January. We need to book this early in oder to guarantee having an HP cabin on the sailing we want. I'm always amazed at the number of people who require HP parking and cabins. This is unfortunate for the truly physically disabled people who are squeezed out . Since there is a high demand for HP cabins (whether warranted or not by people requesting them) these cabins are usually sold quickly. The cruise line isn't going to offer a discount on something they sell quickly. Typically the highest and lowest priced cabins sell out first. That's why usually the cruise lines offer guarantees at a lower rate than booking a cabin nbr. Once the lower cabins are sold those passengers holding guarantees are upgraded (usually by one catagorery) and the cruise line will again be able to sell the lowest priced cabins (usually for a bit more than a guarantee price) but this time they sell them as assigned cabins. This is how cruise lines fill their ships. The closer it gets to the ships sailing date if the ship still has a large number of cabins unsold then the cruise line begins discounting. It's at this point that you need to contact either the cruise co or your agent and have your price adjusted to the new discounted rate. Its up to you to keep checking on you cabin catagorey price. Travel agencies or agents that are holding group space on a particular sailing don't have to turn in their unsold cabins until 70 days prior to sailing. This is the time in which all booked cabins must make final payment. Once the unsold group space is given back to the cruise lines they will sell the remaining cabins through internet discounters really CHEAP. It's up to you again to contact either the cruise line or your agent to get an adjustment. This is difficult however because the cruise line has already received your final payment and isn't going to be quick in agreeing to refund money already received. Travel agents and travel companies work on commission so every time your cruise price is lowered that also lowers the amount of commission they'll receive for your booking. This is why its up to you to keep checking on the going rate of the cabin you booked. I feel that it's definitly discriminating for the HP travelers but until there is enough pressure by HP travelers demanding changes in how cruise lines assign cabins, and how they accommodate HP travelers in all areas of cruising including shore excursions and accessible transportation it will unfornuately remain status quo.
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Old January 26th, 2003, 01:55 PM
Vladimir Drobashevsky
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Thank you, Carol, for your comments and certainly - suggestions.
You are so right in re to TA's commisions and this is why, this time I did book directly with Princess, after receiving a fairly good discount as a Platinum Captain's Circle member (our Transatlantic cruise on Grand, from Southampton to NYC, Sept 23.)
I hope it is a discount, that is, but this will be the ONLY discount, in comparison to other passengers that will get further upgrades later closer to departure.
I will try to keep an eye on cabin prices, as you've suggested up to the sailing date,
BUT something tells me, once I mail them my total payment July 13, my chances
for any further communication with Princess (over an 800 number at that!) will produce
only *^/#@**{&#* and more aggravation.
As for your comment for non'HPs requesting a HP cabin, you are so right! My wife,
a blk amputee and I, have noticed a couple on Down Princess, dancing a la Murray Studio type, prior to the main show on the theatre stage and then: wohla! back to their HP cabin in a wheelchair later in the evening!
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Old January 30th, 2003, 02:09 PM
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Hi -

I've certainly heard lots of people abusing the handicapped cabin policy, but I've never actually seen it on Celebrity. I know they require a note from your doctor when you are booking the cabin. Hopefully, this cuts down on people who fake handicaps. (which always stuck me as truly awful karma)

This will be the first time I have ever booked a handicapped cabin. I was diagnosed with RA last spring (quite a yucky 30th birthday present if you ask me). I hope, if I have a good day, I'll be able to get up and about some of the time. I'm not wheelchair bound, but I will have one on board for assistance. On the bad days, (and unfortunately there are a lot of those) I can only walk very short distances. I really debated about the handicapped cabin, but finally decided that NOT having one could really spoil my trip (or even make me need to cancel it).

We got a pretty good price - 14 days with a balcony going to Alaska on the Summit. With insurance, port charges, etc it still cost almost $5000, but that seems fair.

Hope you have fun and get a surprise visit from the upgrade fairy - Karen in Virginia
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Old February 3rd, 2003, 03:54 PM
Vladimir Drobashevsky
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Hi Karen in Virginia,
Sorry to hear about your rheumatoid arthritis. I am sure you did the right thing regarding a HP room. Look at it this way: what if you did not ask for one and in the middle of your cruise, you needed a wheelchair. You know, it would not go through the regular cabin door and for almost $5K you did OK. By the way, would it be, by any chance a
stateroom 1607 on the Penthouse Deck? That is the cabin right next to the elevators and very convenient to most areas. Summit is a fine ship, the onle beef wife and I had
was the cigarette smoke everywhere, not to mantion the Casino! We did Summit,
the "Ultimate Caribbean" 11 days, only last Oct. 28.
We took Alaska cruise twice, each time, however, only a 7 day cruise. First time it was our 25th (Oh my God, next year it will be a "golden" 50!) and then we could not afford the 14 day itinerary, and three years ago, she had already lost her leg and I was afraid she would not do well on all the buses and the train ride up to Fairbanks.
Hope you feel better and don't worry about a thing, you'll have a great cruise!
Vladimir and Elfrieda
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Old February 4th, 2003, 05:45 AM
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We're in the room right next door - 1605, I think. Did you guys stay in 1607? Can you tell me anything about the room, the ship, or Alaska? I'm wondering about the size, the shower, the bathroom etc. Specifically, I'm hoping there are grab bars. Lately, I've had this nasty tendency to get dizzy and lose my balance. I'm finding grab bars are an absolute necessity. I'm hoping that the smoking will be less problematic on an Alaska cruise. Also, does the Fortune Casino on Summit have a non-smoking section? I'm also a little concerned about shore excursions and whether we will have to tender at any of the ports. Any information that you can pass along would be greatly appreciated. Feel free to email it to me at karenanne_71@hotmail.com.

Thanks alot - Karen
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Old February 13th, 2003, 12:20 AM
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Hi Karen,
We were just in 6109, han/cap cabin 2C on Infinity and I understand the cabins/decks are pretty much the same on these ships. Late and I'm tired but will tell you this- bath is great and is the same in all the hp cabins of the different levels- , I know cuz I checked out all the cabins to be ready for our next cruise. Excellent seat and bars in roll in shower plus at toilet. The grab bars are what my husb really needs as he has trouble with legs and getting up and down, also has dizzy problems. That plus all our supplies for in room dialysis require us to need the hp cabin. Very comfortable altho no grab bars in room itself, just in the bath. Wish we could have a regular room w just grab bars but nothings perfect. I realized later some of the cabinets in room and bath have more storage, naturally not needing to accommodate w/chairs. There are so many on ships with walkers, canes that it would be so nice to have that. I donít think youíll have a problem in the room, there is always a bed or chair to head for if you get faint.

We were often in the casino evenings and I never noticed smoke problems, on infinity one side of ships allows smoking, one doesnít, port and starboard. Donít remember re tendering when we were in Alaska, you can ask special services to find out for you. Good luck, must run.
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Old February 21st, 2003, 07:05 AM
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Hi Vladimir -

Just thought I'd let you know. I noticed that the price for our cabin category went down. My travel agent was able to reprice it at the lower price. We saved a little over $450.

Lynn - Thanks for all the helpful hints. I wish the room had grab bars, but its nice to know that at least theres the couch, chair, etc if I lose balance. Anything else you can remember (especially about the ports and the ship in general) would be greatly appreciated.

thanks - Karen
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Old February 21st, 2003, 09:07 AM
Vladimir Drobashevsky
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Hi Karen,
Thanks for your input.
Our booking for Transatlantic is turning out too hard for me to handle on my own.
So, I have requested a transfer of our papers to a TA. It is really all screwed up.
Our original booking on Grand was a total of $4343.- that is for 8 days. Now that they 've switched us to Golden Princess, it is only a seven day cruise, the total amounts to $6902.- ! I give up! May be my TA can help out. If not , I guess, it will be
"Porchville" for this year.
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Old February 21st, 2003, 12:15 PM
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Vladimir -

What the heck happened - that is a HUGE jump!!! If you are still looking, I have a great new travel agent that we're using for our cruise. So far, she has been absolutely terrific. We have a handicapped balcony cabin that is right by the elevators. We're on the 2 week Celebrity Summit Alaska cruise and for two of us including port charges, tax, and trip insurance, we're paying $4676.70.

Of course, its also $550 per person for our airfare (non-stop flights) because we have to fly from Washington to Vancouver and then from San Diego to Washington (repositioning cruise), but I still think we did pretty well.

If you're interested, email me and I'll pass along her information.

Good luck - Karen
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Old March 31st, 2003, 10:35 AM
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We have been able to get discounts for nearly all our cruises, even when in a disabled cabin. This has generally been done through our TA, who looks for groups to add us to or other deals, in fact she looks for the deals before she even calls us with a possible cruise. A couple of cruises we have looked into ourselves and then asked her to get us a group rate. You do have to book handicapped rooms early though. Upgrades are often a problem as so many ships have so few handicapped rooms, and often these are in very limited categories. Did get upgraded from a mid-range cabin to a penthouse on a Transatlantic relocation cruise on Crystal one time though...what luxury!
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Old June 21st, 2003, 04:34 PM
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If you know what you want and are flexible, using a a web or discount agent can result in large savings even if you need an HP cabin. For example, about a month before sailing, we were able to book a 7 day Exotic Caribbean on the Carnival Spirit in March. We had an inside HP cabin, but it cost under $400/pp. And we have an outside cabin on the Splendour of the Seas 7 day Mediterranean next month for $799.
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Old August 5th, 2003, 03:33 PM
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Vladimir,

I have come across your name on a message board and was wondering if you might be able to answer my question.
Have you and your wife ever traveled on the NCL Dawn. My husband I just booked a cruise for next july. He uses a manual wheelchair due to paralysis. We have an accessible suite, but I was wondering about the accessibility of the rest of the cruise. We are leaving from NYC sailing to Port Canaval & Miami FL, then to Nassau and their private Island. Any info you may have would be appreciated.

Thank you,
Adrienne
adrienne@thecore.com
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