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Old February 17th, 2007, 10:08 PM
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Why are Disney cruises so expensive and why do they keep going up, up, up?

I know Disney is the Family line, but the prices have really kept me from booking with them. Is it supply and demand? Is Disney not building more ships because they want to keep that demand high?

I'm curious.
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My understanding is that DCL has orders for two more ships from Fincanteri, due in 3 or 4 years or so.

My opinion is that Disney charges what they do because they can. I don't mean that in a mean way. It's just that they have a niche product that's not like any other line. You don't get Mickey and the level of trained youth coulselors on other lines.

Also, demand is high. When demand is high, that supports agressive pricing. They have to not price themselves out of the market ... but they can afford to ask more than other lines. Passengers get more ... especially those with children.
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My understanding is that DCL has orders for two more ships from Fincanteri, due in 3 or 4 years or so.

My opinion is that Disney charges what they do because they can. I don't mean that in a mean way. It's just that they have a niche product that's not like any other line. You don't get Mickey and the level of trained youth coulselors on other lines.

Also, demand is high. When demand is high, that supports agressive pricing. They have to not price themselves out of the market ... but they can afford to ask more than other lines. Passengers get more ... especially those with children.
I am afraid I must disagree with you on one point. There are many family cruise lines that do just as good a job with their kids programs. It is true that Disney has put off new builds in an effort to keep demand high. The main reason for building two new ships is the high demand for Med. and European cruises. With only two ships and one of them doing three and four day cruises, Disney has been unable to cash in on the newer markets. With other lines upgrading kids programs the territory formerly held by Disney is eroding and they must expand into other areas.
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Correction: The two new ships are to be built at Myer Werft shipyards.
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If I'm not mistaken, I've also heard that their staterooms are much larger on average so that may be a contribtor the issue...

IMO, it's probably a combonation of the larger rooms and the fact that Disney does tend to charge more because they can.

That said, I'm among those who will end up paying more at some point to take the Disney cruise

We're taking our first cruise on RCI for our 10th anniversary this Sept....main reason we aren't taking Disney is because I felt too guilty taking the Disney cruise without bringing the kids along The fact that we're paying less than to take Disney is just a bonus on this one.
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If I'm not mistaken, I've also heard that their staterooms are much larger on average so that may be a contribtor the issue...

IMO, it's probably a combonation of the larger rooms and the fact that Disney does tend to charge more because they can.

That said, I'm among those who will end up paying more at some point to take the Disney cruise

We're taking our first cruise on RCI for our 10th anniversary this Sept....main reason we aren't taking Disney is because I felt too guilty taking the Disney cruise without bringing the kids along The fact that we're paying less than to take Disney is just a bonus on this one.
the rooms are definitely larger than say RC...the shower/bath is also really nice compared to other cruise lines....still a bit tight w/two adults and a child...
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We went on the Disney Wonder in 99'. We did the 4 days at Disney World and 3 day cruise. Back then it wasn't the much. We have wanted to go back and do it again but the costs have discurage us from doing it.

The staterooms are bigger. We had a inside stateroom and it had a couch in it and a table, and the bathroom had a tub. It was only the 4th week that the ship had been sailing, so it was still spotless. Knowing how Disney is, I'm sure it is still very clean.

The food was the best so far. The way that you change resturants every night but kept your servers was great.

Is it worth the cost? Maybe. If you are thinking of going on HAL or others in that class, you should conside Disney too. Just go off season like we did if you don't want kids around. We went in October and there was hardly any.
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I cant say why the cost but I can say after going on the Carnival Glory a couple weeks ago that Disney has service way above the Glory.
On DCL you may pay more but you also get so much more than what we experienced on the Glory.

We had Rude CM's
a 4 hour debarkation
cm;s smoking in guest areas
cm's in dirty uniforms
cm's in untucke dsloppy dressed uniforms.
out of 4 purchaese s only greeted once and thanked once.
most times the cm never spoke to us, just ookour purchaed, rang it up and asked for our card, handed us our product, that was it. No hello, no thanks etc..


Our drink server only asked one person at our table if we wanted a drink with dinner. he said yes and ordered, she left without asking the other 5 people what they wanted. we could of calle dher back but on the principle of the thing we didnt. We felt ot was rude of her NOT to ask us at least once all week. You must order pop this way too, not just mixed drinks. She missed 5 sales everynight.


we missed dinner the first night, long story, but secodn night it took asking 3 different people in 3 different side of the restaurant to find our table. No help at all, no numbers on the tables either. Nobody took us ot our table until I was mad at the 3rd person who started to walk away and he reluctantly showed us to our table!!!

I have done 15 cruises now and never been treated so rudly as on the Glory. The room host even removed the mints on thursday that the grandkids had been saving all week to bring home to eat on the plane. they were neatly lined upall week and they would add a couple to it each day. so the host had seen them all week, then for some unknown reason he took them all on thursday???

My daughter was too shy to say anything and i didnt know until we got off the ship or I would of been down to the pursers desk getting all their mints back and more!!! even if the host thought they wernt eating them he had NO right ot remove them until they had debarked from their cabin 2 days later. No excuse for this in my opinion and i did write and trell Carnival about this, of course no answer yet.

there was much more, too much to list, but I know this would NEVER of happened on disney. So maybe I'm paying more for the atmosphere on Dsiney but after our experience on carnival I am more than willing to pay the difference. disney pampers you and is always friendly. They make you feel like you are at home on the ship,not just a customer.
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Correction: The two new ships are to be built at Myer Werft shipyards.
the ships will come out - one in 2011 and one in 2012


I hope the are named "Dreams" and "Wishes"


That is my prediction - DO I WIN???? ha ha
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Not all the cruises, times and dates are expensive.

My sister and I are going on the Wonder on Sept. 13th and it is costing us only $425 pp.

Now that isn't a CAT 1 - 2 - or 3 and it isn't a balcony, but that is perfectly all right with us. We will still be on the ship and do everything else that everyone else does.

It was the posted price online also, not a special or CM price.

You just have to do your research and be flexible in your times.

I know it doesn't always for everyone, but it is worth a try to do the research
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The LAST PLACE you want to be for your 10th wedding anniversary is on a DISNEY CRUISE! (July 13, 2006).

My grown daughter and I went on a Disney cruise because they said that had a discount for teachers. SOME DISCOUNT!

This cruise was the Good Lord's way for making me atone for any and all sins that I had committed in this life and past lives!

It was also akin to being paralyed in a mound of fire-ants with no way out!

There was nothing on (Disney Wonder) that children could not do - they were everywhere and I mean everywhere!

I love children, but when you absolutely cannot get away from them, its gets a little much!

The food is just okay - stay away from the seafood!
The ambiance is Disney - that is the only thing great about this ship - the decorations.

Staff and crew cater to small children to the neglect of adults.

Well, I personally recommend Royal Caribbean for a 10th anniversary cruise, but I am partial - I adore Royal Caribbean.

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you must have had an awful cruise????

I have been on 17 Disney cruises and have never, never had a problem with a lot of children around. Never.........

They have a great Kids Club an The Stack for the teenagers.

There are a HUGE amount of kids activities ALL THE TIME....

Where in the world did you encounter the fire ants?? that horrid.

I am so sorry you had an awful time



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The LAST PLACE you want to be for your 10th wedding anniversary is on a DISNEY CRUISE! (July 13, 2006).

My grown daughter and I went on a Disney cruise because they said that had a discount for teachers. SOME DISCOUNT!

This cruise was the Good Lord's way for making me atone for any and all sins that I had committed in this life and past lives!

It was also akin to being paralyed in a mound of fire-ants with no way out!

There was nothing on (Disney Wonder) that children could not do - they were everywhere and I mean everywhere!

I love children, but when you absolutely cannot get away from them, its gets a little much!

The food is just okay - stay away from the seafood!
The ambiance is Disney - that is the only thing great about this ship - the decorations.

Staff and crew cater to small children to the neglect of adults.

Well, I personally recommend Royal Caribbean for a 10th anniversary cruise, but I am partial - I adore Royal Caribbean.

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We have done 3 different Disney cruises in the past<3+4 days> We also have done one on Princess and 2 on RCC. I would cruise on Disney any day. The service is outstanding and everything is perfect. There are lots of kids however Disney provides a section that is off limits to anyone under 18 years old.The section has a pool and 2 hottubs, a cafe shop and a bar. They do enforce the age limit. I have never had to deal with kids and they all have an entire section to themselves. The shows are G rated, there is no gambling and we never saw drunks, females in "skimpy bathing suits etc. When we cruise we always try to get the FL resident rates which drop the price by alot but is still more than a regular cruise. To us it's worth the money because of the service. We don't have any small children but we went by ourselves, one with 14 year old daughter who btw loves the Disney cruise line better than all the other cruises she took. her and I had written a review btw , just look under Disney.

Kathleen I can't believe you took a nin Disney cruise!!! How have you been?
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The LAST PLACE you want to be for your 10th wedding anniversary is on a DISNEY CRUISE! (July 13, 2006).

Eesesh...sorry to hear about your experience. Don't worry though, this will be a totally kid-free cruise and we're taking Royal Caribbean. We'll be on the Mariner of the Seas for the Western Caribbean. As I mentioned in my original post, felt too guilty taking a Disney Cruise without the kids, though I will definetly be taking the Disney one with my kids at some point.



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Well, I personally recommend Royal Caribbean for a 10th anniversary cruise, but I am partial - I adore Royal Caribbean.

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Very cool! That makes me feel better ... we are DVC members and I'm very partial to Disney. It almost makes me nervous to not stay with Disney but RCI looks so good, I'm not worried this time.
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Hi Sue,
yes we took the Glory and we were miserable most of the trip.

We wanted to take the grandkids on a 7 day cruise and the Magic is gone this summer, so we deicded to try carnival because many have bragged on their kids programs.
Both out grandkids say Disney is 100 X better !!!

I am looking forward to November when we can be spoiled by Disney again!!!

How have you been??

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Why are Disney cruises so expensive and why do they keep going up, up, up?

I know Disney is the Family line, but the prices have really kept me from booking with them. Is it supply and demand? Is Disney not building more ships because they want to keep that demand high?

I'm curious.
Because if you want to cruise with Mickey, it's gonna cost you!
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This may have been mentioned...I didn't read very carefully...but

Disney has NO casino (as I understand). A huge cash cow for the other lines.

They gotta make it up somehow...in addition to the premium they get for having the Disney name/characters, etc.
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I'm with Diane, the Disney ships are beautiful, the food is OK , We too had kids taking over the ship. No parents anywhere, and in Disney style they love to create lines any and every where they can. We also experienced late comers at the shows and the crew wanting eveyone to move to the middle. Some of us get there on time to sit where we want.

I much preferred Celebrity and Royal Caribbean and so did our son.
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I have been on both Disney and Carnival, Disney by far has the best customer service. I did not think there was that big of difference in how many kids were on board. My husband and I went kid less on Disney and had a wonderful time!!!
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Diane, you cracked me up with the Lord bit. Never have I seen that before!! Thanks for the chuckle.
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I was on Disney in 2004 and had a back wrap around cabin. we did not pay for this cruise my husbands corperation did. Kids had the cabin next to ours. It wa a very large balcony also.

There were alot of kids but we were rarely overtaken by them. We loved it. If Disney was not so expensive we would cruise them again. They had great shows and great things for every age group. We loved Castaway Cay to. It was awesome. the one think I did not like was the 2 bathroom area. [/b]
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Why are Disney cruises so expensive and why do they keep going up, up, up?

I know Disney is the Family line, but the prices have really kept me from booking with them. Is it supply and demand? Is Disney not building more ships because they want to keep that demand high?

I'm curious.
IMO you can sail economically with Disney, but the trick to getting the good inside rooms is booking very early. And, also sailing during off-season in the fall. We're sailing Wonder Oct 2009 for $499 per person on the 4 night cruise.

The money we saved by booking inside rooms vs balcony allowed us to take our grown sons and their girlfriends. And, allowed us to book 3 rooms. Those inside rooms are some of the best (larger vs other lines) in the industry and considered a good value.


And, Disney is worth the extra cost in comparison to other lines due to their impeccable service. We've known many people that have sailed the Wonder and all have come away extremely pleased...from Honeymooners without kids to grandparents sailing with their entire clan
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Is Disney not building more ships because they want to keep that demand high?

I'm curious.

Actually, Disney is currently building 2 more larger ships that are set to sail in 2012 I believe
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Can anyone please tell me which Disney ship is the better one? Or, is it just a matter of opinion.

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Can anyone please tell me which Disney ship is the better one? Or, is it just a matter of opinion.

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Magic goes on 7 day cruises and has Ocean Quest for the kids which the Wonder doesnt have.

The Wonder does the shorter cruises and has a nice splash area for kids in diapers which is new. Magic has one ear dedicated to them.

Both ships are pretty much liad out the same but they give the clubs and restaurants different names for some of them.

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By far the expierence me and my family had on Disney CL has been the best hands down compared to any other CL. The restraunts the programs. The private Island. All amazing. Some vacations you never forget. This is one of them. Oh yeah and when I talk to my travel agent he just says its Disney
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My first DCL trip was for my 10th anniversary, this was our first cruise and first vacation WITHOUT our 3 kids. We had a great time. If you don't want to be around kids you have to do your homework and plan ahead. We had the late dinner seating and there were very few kids. We also hung out in the adult only pool area and the adult only dance club. we hardly noticed the kids because the staff kept them so busy.

As for the cost, We have only cruised with Disney because what I have learned in my research of other lines from my mom who worked on NCL and RCL, friends and websites is Disney is worth it.

DCL has the largest staterooms in the industry, we are going on the 7 nt double dip with TWO stops at their private island in a cat. 10 inside room that is 214 sq. ft with a split bath. We actually have 2 rooms side by side and it's $4000 for a family of 5, it depends where you book you cruise too. But DCL includes all your non-alcoholic drinks, the other guys charge pretty steep fees for beverages. On DCL all food is included, some of the other lines have extra fees to eat at say Johnny ROckets onboard. With kids I don't want to feel like I am in Vegas, been there done that, DCL is NOT a floating casino, DCL has broadway type shows not Vegas type shows. DCL has character breakfasts....also included!

Disney customer service is second to none!!! DCL is worth every penny!
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I think for the price DCL charges, it's worth it being that it's Disney. Kids love Disney characters and they figure a lot of families would enjoy taking a cruise on DCL and make it worthwhile for them. I'm not saying that DCL is the only cruise for kids though.
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I'm just about to embark on my 5th Disney Cruise--May 25th--and the 6th--November 29th--is already booked and paid for!

Disney is a luxury cruise line, and that is definitley reflected in the price. However, there are ways to make a sailing with Disney more affordable:

1. Find a travel agent who has group space available. While it is true that Disney will not allow agents to discounts their cruises, group space is available and will save you money.

2. Look for an agency offering onboard credits.

3. Book and pay for your cruise with a Disney Visa card; this usually allows for an onboard credit. Using the card also gives you 6 months to pay off your Disney Cruise interest free!

4. Plan your cruise during Disney Magical Rate sailings. Prices for these cruises usually start at under $900.00 p/p inclusive of all taxes and fees.

5. Book early! This can save you a lot of money! Disney doesn't usually offer last minute specials, so book as soon as you are able to commit to a specific set of dates. This advice is especially important if you have your heart set on one of Disney's Special Itinerary sailings.

6. Book your cruise NOW before Disney implements new fuel surcharges later this month.

7. Book with an agency that specializes in Disney--but even more importantly, book with an agent who has cruised with Disney!! Their help in planning will be invaluable to you! This may or may not end up saving you money, but it will definitely protect your investment!
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