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Old June 9th, 2004, 12:41 AM
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I am not a smoker and was wondering if smoking is permitted all through the cruises or if there are selected areas.
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Old June 9th, 2004, 08:23 AM
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There are areas that dont allow smoking such as the dining room, but all outdoor areas will allow people to smoke, so anytime you are on an outside deck people will be able to smoke. There are certainly not "designated smoking areas".
Carnival does have a smoke-free ship, but I believe they are going to change that fairly soon.

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Old June 9th, 2004, 11:17 AM
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there are designated non-smoking areas such as the dining rooms. Pick a newer ship over and older one if smoke bothers you, the new ships have better ventilation systems.
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Old June 10th, 2004, 06:26 PM
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On the ncl Dawn smoking in the three main restaurants were not permitted. Smoking was permited on the port side of the outside decks and I believe the lounges. The problem with that is that some people have not idea which is port side and when they can they just carry ash trays with them and no one says anything.
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Old June 22nd, 2004, 02:09 PM
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On all the ships I have been on Disney, NCL, RCCL, Celebrity and Princess there are designated smoking and non smoking areas to ALL public rooms except the dining rooms which are completely non smoking, usually the smoking is one side of the ship and the non smoking the other including the outdoor areas, this does not apply to cabins where smoking unfortunately is permitted in any cabin.
But there are smoking areas and non everywhere else and they are marked , though could be marked better.
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Old June 22nd, 2004, 11:41 PM
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This is one of my pet peeves. Smoking on the cruise is awful. The only thing that you can do is to go on one of the larger ships. If you go on a small ship you will be stuck onboard with constant cigarette smoke wherever you go. I wish the cruise industry would wise up to the fact that many people cannot stand cigarette smoke. People on cruises (officers, crew and passengers) smoke like chimneys.
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The cruiselines have wised up to the fact that many people cannot stand smoke. Unfortunately it's bad for business to eliminate smoking. The only ship that was non-smoking is now going smoking. The cruiselines are in it for the dollars and smokers contribute a large part of it.

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Old July 9th, 2004, 05:58 PM
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I have to agree smoking is awful and makes me sick to be around it but from talking to Carnival it is a business decision you take a group that has 20 cabins and 19 don't smoke but one does...guess what because of one smoker they go somewhere else. to bad if it were me I would suggest a quit smoking program quick but Carnival is in business to make money
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Carnival is taking the easy way out, and not entirely honest approach, blaming the change on groups. Do you really think 38 people would change ships, because 2 smoke. NOT very likely.

Fact is their onboard revenue on this ship was MUCH less than their ships which allowed smokers.

Seems that non smoking vacationers don't like to drink or gamble either <G>
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Old July 11th, 2004, 01:58 AM
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It would be really interesting to get some demographics on those people that don't smoke. I wonder if a large majority of them represent a certain group, such as a religion? In any case, it is is sad to see the Paradise go away from being a non-smoking ship. I would of liked to cruised on her while the rule was still in place.

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Old July 22nd, 2004, 08:39 AM
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I too am a non smoker and do not like the smell smokers leave behind. I had the good fortune to have sailed on the Paradise about 2 years ago and loved the experience. No stale smoke smell anywhere. No smoke in the lounges, casino or anywhere on deck. It was great. Just about everybody was making positive comments about being in a smoke free environment. I sent a letter to the head of customer sevices exclaiming the fact that they should make more of their ships non smoking. I did get a formal responce stating that my letter was passed on the the powers that make such decisions and I guess we all know how that turned out. I understand that any company's primary goal is to make money, but I find it hard to believe that in this age when smoking is losing popularity among the baby boomers and hence the money that there are significantly more smokers than non smokers. I also find it hard to believe that a cruise company is not be able to offer a product that non smokers would enjoy and still make money. I wish more cruise lines would adapt a smoke free policy like the Paradise once had. It truely was a great experience.

Now I'll get off of my soapbox. I am booked for a 9/5/04 cruise to Alaska on Celebrity Infinity and one of the questions I have posed to these cruise boards has addressed smoking on the ship. So far only one person has responded, stating that smoking is allowed on the port (right) side of the ship (on deck, and in most of the public areas, as well as in the lounges and casino. There is no smoking at all in the dinning areas. So at least Celebrity is offering some sort of a haven from second hand smoke to us non smokers.
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Umm......Port is the LEFT and i repeat LEFT side of the ship! RIGHT is STARBOARD!

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Old July 22nd, 2004, 02:20 PM
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Sorry about the error, just washed my hands and can't do a thing with em. They seem to type whatever dey wan sometimes. The port side IS the LEFT side of the big boat, I mean ship. What do you expect from a land lubber. Port, starboard, left, right, it's all too confusing, why do they call it the Ports and Starboard anyhow, why not just plain left ans right.
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Hello,
What I noticed is the comment that a group may not book on the Paradise if a couple people smoke. The reason I believe this may be true is because I saw litrature that said you can't be in possesion of Tabbaco on the cruise. It does not mean a smoker would be using it on the cruise, but they may want to have it when they are in Ports. So if they are concerned that having it in their possesion is a problem, they may have been able to sway the others in the group into booking another ship.
I know that at this point it does not matter, just a thought I had.
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I just gave up the nasty habit several months ago. Now that my senses have cleared up....I have to say cigarette smoking stinks and I don't want to have to smell it. I am venturing on my first cruise this Sept. on the Oosterdam and after reading these postings I am wondering if my room will smell like cigarette smoke. Did anyone notice that smell in the cabin? Hallways? Do people flinging their cigarette butts over the side (into the water)? Its going to be a real disappointment to not be able to get away from smokers if it's true they are smoking all over the ship--except dinning rooms. My cruise is a reward for quiting smoking.............quess there's a joke on me.
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I'm pretty sensitive to smoke, but never really found it to be a problem, except in the casino.

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Old July 23rd, 2004, 11:45 AM
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I agree with Dorothy, smoke is only a real stinky issue in the casino, unfortunately on some ships you have to walk through the casino to get other places.
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Old August 3rd, 2004, 11:10 AM
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I cruise on the Paradise because my mother who cruises with my family has emphasema. She has difficulty with second hand smoke that most of us do not realize is there. We have supported Carnival and sailed on the Paradise four time. We sail on Aug 22. and this is probably our last cruise together because of Carnival's decision.

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Old June 12th, 2005, 03:36 PM
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Most of the ships allow smoking in designated areas of all bars, unfortunately the smoke does not understand to stay in these areas straying into the non smoking areas.

Perhaps all non smokers should pass wind in the bars and we could see if the smokers complain of the smell.
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It is sad that people can not learn to respect their fellow humans for the choices they make. A smoker has seen many changes to their way of life in order to accomadate the nonsmokers. Smokers have conformed to these changes and yet the nonsmokers are still not satisfied that the smokers have their area and the nonsmokers have theirs.

There are worse things going on in this world that people should be concerned about rather than whether Jane or Joe are smoking on a LEGALLY sold cigarette.

Our energies should be directed toward achieving a world of peace and sharing.
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I understand your right to smoke, but what about my right to breath. I am severely allergic to smoke and it can send me into an asthma attach if it gets to be too much. That is one of the reasons I avoid going to bars, nightclubs and many restaurants. Unless an inside place has a phenomenal air filtration system, having a smoking and non smoking area doesn't work. I plan to avoid those inside smoking areas on the ship and I will not sit near a place if there are a lot of smokers (guess I won't be sitting with much of my family! ). I wouldn't ask someone to move if they were there before me smoking.

I agree (based upon it is still legal to smoke) if you are out in an open space, you should be able to smoke. But what I can't understand is how a person can't go one to three hours without a smoke. That's about how long it would take to have dinner or be on most airplanes.

P.S. Now a days, I find most smokers have been very nice and courteous, especially when they know I'm allergic. Unfortunately a FEW smokers/non-smokers take it to the extreme.

I'm willing to compromise!)
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"That is one of the reasons I avoid going to bars, nightclubs and many restaurants"

Anyone wondering why Carnival is bagging the non-smoking ship and why the "Silver City Casino" in Las Vegas went bankrupt should re-read the above statement that is a direct quote from a reply in this thread.

Any entertainment venue that restricts the person freedoms of anyone is eventually going to feel the effect in the pocketbook. I am a frequent cruiser and visitor to Las Vegas and my average dollars spent on a week long cruise or a trip to Las Vegas average between 2 and 3 thousand dollars. Those figures multiplied by the amount of people that feel as I do, are impossible for a cruise line or casino to ignore.

Needless to say, I've never sailed on the ship in question, nor did I ever set foot in the Silver City Casino in Las Vegas.

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There is no smoking at all in the dinning areas. So at least Celebrity is offering some sort of a haven from second hand smoke to us non smokers.



But the dinning room closes at about 22.30 and has no entertainment and no bar.
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It is sad that people can not learn to respect their fellow humans for the choices they make. A smoker has seen many changes to their way of life in order to accomadate the nonsmokers. Smokers have conformed to these changes and yet the nonsmokers are still not satisfied that the smokers have their area and the nonsmokers have theirs.

There are worse things going on in this world that people should be concerned about rather than whether Jane or Joe are smoking on a LEGALLY sold cigarette.

Our energies should be directed toward achieving a world of peace and sharing.


The problem is that the smoke does not stay in their areas, I am perfectly happy for smokers to have their own enclosed bar areas and non smokers to have their own enclosed bar areas.

smokers would not agree to this because even they cannot abide the smell of each other and of their smoke.
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If you have a balcony can you smoke a cigar without bothering nieghbors?
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If you have a balcony can you smoke a cigar without bothering nieghbors?
the answer is deffinately NO
Yes you can certainly smoke a cigar on your balcony. but you cannot do it without offending your neighbors if they are non smokers and care about smoke. Same thing is true of cigarette smoke.

I always book the very first balcony cabin on the side of the ship so no smoke can be blown back on me at least on sea days.

But I have been chased off my balcony many many times by smokers
that is the sad thing about smoking, smokers have a right to smoke, but that right DOES infringe on others period, If I choose my right NOT to smoke it does not impinge on anyone else in and of itself.
I am just incrediby glad that where I live smoking is not allowed in any public place or any workplace for that matter.
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