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Old April 20th, 2014, 07:09 PM
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Exclamation READ, before you purchase your flights

Learn how to avoid common pitfalls when flying with checked luggage.

Decided to fly out the morning on the same day of your cruise because you don’t want to miss an additional day of work or pay for a hotel.
When your suitcase fails to appear on the baggage carousel, you're guaranteed a stressful experience filling out baggage-claim forms and futilely waiting to hear if your bag(s) have been located.

Especially if you’re going on a cruise or catching a land tour. Most likely the bags will need to catch up with you at another location. If you need to check a bag, following these strategies may prevent delays and get your luggage back to you.

Take Photos & Get Insurance.

Use your smart phone to take photo of the outside of your bag and any expensive garments being packed to show the airline if case of loss. It's also wise to take a quick photo of your baggage-claim ticket, in case you lose it.

Electronics are not covered by airlines, unless you get specific coverage, always read the passage contract. Cruise lines and hotels do not cover for lost or stolen electronice either, so if you have a camera, tablet, lap-top, smart phone etc. make sure you add to your home-owners policy (Hazard Coverage) or get renters insurance with specific coverage on the items you will be traveling with. You may purchase travel insurance, but most travel insurance policies are secondary coverage to existing coverage and or airline policies & contain exclusions and or deductibles that render the policy worthless.

Always keep the purchase receipts for proof of cost and take a photo of these items, recently a sting operation at LAX uncovered employees stealing from checked bags.

If it is not covered by insurance you are at risk, so determine cost of coverage and try to carry expensive valubles with you onboard the aircraft!

I personally encountered baggage handlers at the pier during the check-in process for a Caribbean cruise out of Fort Lauderdale, the handlers removed my colognes & i-pod from the zipped pockets, I personally packed the items in an outside pocket for easy access at my hotel 20 minutes before catching a taxi to the pier. when I reported the loss to the cruise line, they simply stated, they are not employees of the cruise lines, SORRY.

Note: I now only travel with Poly carbonate luggage, the heavier style ballistic cordura expandable luggage with outside zippers is to attractive for thieves.


Check in Early & make sure you secure flights with ample lay-over time between connections.


Flyers that check in late, regardless of reason are more likely to get separated from their bags. Baggage handlers will direct your bags to the next flight to your final destination.

Once the Aircraft secures the cargo doors to taxi out on the tarmac. No more bags will be loaded.
Short lay-overs on National flights = USA less than 30-minutes & International flights less than 1-hour on lay-over including change of aircraft may cause your bag to be placed on the next aircraft to your final destination, so you may not find your bag when you disembark at final destination.
All airports contain miles of underground conveyer systems that direct your checked bags to the assigned gate for loading onto aircraft. If you have a connection, the handlers must unload your bag from existing flight, then load to conveyer system, where it is directed of the gate where your connection is located. Airlines will not hold an aircraft for your bag, hence the check-in requirement, nothing you can do when you book a flight with a short lay-over. You may make the flight, but your bag may not.

Understanding the reservation system when booking flights & complying with the check-in requirements will help you in the future when securing airline tickets. Terms used in the industry for change of aircraft, is a “EQUIPMENT CHANGE” This is often the reason your bag does not make it to your final destination.

Handlers must unload your bag and reload on underground conveyers that redirect your bag to connecting gate, each time your bag is loaded and unloaded, it is scanned, if your flight is late landing and your connecting flight has closed the cargo door before your bag is loaded, your bag must be redirected to another aircraft flying to your final destination.

A non-stop flight means, NO-STOPS. A direct flight means you will be landing “STOPPING” at another airport before arriving to your final destination.


Place Your Itinerary inside Your Bag & Remove old tags off luggage!

Luggage tags are scanned and sometimes get torn off during the handling process, but a copy of your itinerary, placed on top of your belongings inside your bag with e-mail, hotel or cruise itinerary with mobile number will allow security to trace the owner.

Your bag/luggage should have a secured tag in the pocket or attached to handle with your frequent flyer account name & number, joining the frequent flyer program will allow you to update a profile with all your emergency contact information and more important allow you to get text update on GATE changes, the most common cause of missed connecting flights. I suggest you write on the back of your frequent flyer card attached to the exterior of your bag: open if Delayed or lost (contact information inside). This will make it easier for airline staff to determine whom the bag belongs to and to contact you for directions.

Use a unique Luggage Strap

Suitcases, unfortunately, sometimes suffer from a case of mistaken identity at the baggage carousel. Samsonnite, American Tourist, Costco, Wal-Mart etc. They all sale slate-gray upright hard side or black ballistic cordura bags, etc.. So give your bag a colorful luggage strap and use a colorful plastic zip tie to secure the colorful strap to your luggage itself through to the handle to prevent removal of colorful strap. You can also use a colorful plastic zip tie to secure the zippers, even if you use an approved lock which will not keep out dishonest people, a zip tie missing will alert you sombody was in your luggage.


Avoid Short Layovers

Tight layovers increase the likelihood that your bags making the connecting flight with you. If your flight is late, the window of time for baggage handlers to transfer your bag from one plane to the next narrows. Pay attention to the length of your layover, especially when booking with an online travel agency (OTA) like Expedia or Orbitz. Or through the cruise lines, whom often sell domestic multi-leg itineraries with layovers of less than an hour, which exposes you to delays.

Remember the cruise line will also start your penalties from the date of your flight, if booked through the cruise line and not the actual date of the cruise, however, if a delay in route causes you to miss the ship, the cruise line will get you to the first port of call at no additional charge.

If you have an international connecting flight, know that you may have to pick up your checked luggage at the baggage claim, clear customs and airport security, and then recheck your bag, all before boarding. This is also the case if you're arriving in the U.S. from an international destination and then taking a domestic connecting flight. For this reason, it's important to allow plenty of time—two or more hours, ideally—on international layovers. Confused? When checking in, ask airline staff if you'll need to recheck your bag at your connection.

Long Layovers

If you’re flying International and you find flights departing to a main hub for a connecting flight that may not be scheduled to depart for 4 or 5 hours. Look for a connecting flight that leaves the next morning and get a room at or near the hotel with shuttle service.

Example: I booked a flight using mileage with United Airlines leaving Rome Italy at 5:30 PM local time on a Lufthansa flight to their main hub in Frankfurt Germany 1-hour 50-min flight, which code shares with United in the STAR ALLIANCE program.
United airlines did not offer any reduced mileage awards from ROME Italy back to LAX when I was searching flights, Anyway the flight operated by Lufthansa from Frankfurt Germany had a 15 hour layover in Frankfurt Germany, I reserved a hotel in the airport not requiring a shuttle and will depart the next afternoon NON-STOP to lax. Point being, I will get 10 hours of sleep before boarding a flight lasting 11-hours & 35-minutes on the new 747-800, worlds longest airliner, even longer than the A380-800. I also look at flying as an experience and with the new aircraft such as the Boeing B787 Dream Liner, B747-800 and Airbus Industries with the A380-800 & A350-XWB, make the best of it. I use (seat guru.com) to look up seating before booking flights.
Point being, Instead of trying to get home the same day, I allowed for an additional half day in Rome with plenty of time to sleep in have lunch and even see a monument such as the Trivi Fountain in Rome and reduce a 16-hour flight into 2-flights of 2-hours & 11.35-hours.



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Very good and in depth info; thanks for posting
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I believe I read on a forum where you can purchase an ID sticker from a company and place them on your luggage, passport, iPad, and if you lose them, you can log on to the website and find out where they may have been left. Have you heard of this?
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Most of the time, I do have to fly in a day early whenever possible, but if not, I will only book direct flights. You just never know and I don't want to have a connecting flight, just for it to be late, which does happen often. Then there is the possibility of lost luggage then too.


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I can get a direct flight to Orlando, but not Miami.
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Timmy,
Where to you have to make a stop before landing in Miami, O'Hare?
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Atlanta. The two main airlines out of Cincy are Delta and US Air(now American), so if I go to Miami, the quickest route is CVG-ATL-MIA on Delta or CVG-CLT-MiA on US Airways
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Post Direct means the plain will land before your final destination

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Most of the time, I do have to fly in a day early whenever possible, but if not, I will only book direct flights. You just never know and I don't want to have a connecting flight, just for it to be late, which does happen often. Then there is the possibility of lost luggage then too.


Thanks for posting all that info.

The airlines have been using the misleading terms for years, now they are designing there web-sites to lead you to believe your not stopping on direct flight by not posting the lay-over on flight that don't require you to change aircraft.

Non stop flights are preferred and often cost more, frequent flyers trying to use reduced mileage rewards often don't have any access to non stop flights in many premium markets.

A "DIRECT" flight stops, you are referring to a "NON-STOP" flight.

Deception is part of the plan to sell out all the seats on every flight.
Understanding how the airlines are now displaying flight information on there web-sites.

I have encountered direct flights with departing & landing information only.
When I noticed a laps in time being posted online, I observed no lay-over destination for the aircraft on direct flights, unless the aircraft required changing to get to your final destination also referred to as EQUIPMENT CHANGE.

Simply put, if you are not on a non stop flight, you are landing before your final destination.
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It is important to take into account when flying.
If you are flying during hurricane season a layover in specific airports within the hurricane belt can be a problem.




A critical issue to take into account are airports that have snow removal equipment often referred to a snow belt airports.
If your flying from Thanksgiving through the end of February, a layover in a snow belt airport can be a mistake.


If you consider de-icing of aircraft and delays caused by cancelled flights, a NON-STOP flight may prevent many hours of frustration.
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