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Old August 19th, 2000, 02:07 AM
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Default Gaming on ships is not for real gamblers

Casinos on cruise ships can be alot of fun, but it's not a place for serious gamblers to try and make the big score. If you're going to gamble on ships do it for the fun of it, and the social aspects involved.
Personally, I only play blackjack. No one armed bandits or Caribbean Stud for me. However on a cruise ship my approach is much different than if I'm on a gambling junket to Vegas. You have to realize on a ship most people have rarely gambled other than strictly for fun and the wild hope that the'll make a couple of dollars.
Most don't really know the rules of the games, and it shows. I've found on ships most people don't play cards according to "the book". " Really, there's a book ?" This certainly increases the odds for the house (ship), so when I gamble on a ship I prepare myself mentally to see all kinds of strange goings on have learned to just take it all in stride and enjoy the chatter during the game, and make new friends.

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Old August 20th, 2000, 10:18 AM
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Kuki --

I agree, gambling on ships is a diversion to pass a little time and socialize a little - it isn't for serious gamblers, at least not yet. I think we will begin to see much more serious gambling with more attractive ods for serious gamblers in the future, and even high-roller perks like discounted or free cabins, etc.

Why do I say this? Because NCL is now owned by Star Cruises of Malaysia, and their parent company is the largest casino company is Asia (Asians love to gamble, by the way).

The new NCL CEO, Colin Veitch, has said in interviews that gambling is going to be more of a focus in the future and that they will attract serious gamblers.

The cruise lines have been saying for years that Las Vegas is their #1 competition. I think they are serious, and considering how much *some* people gamble they may have the right idea. What'ya think?
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Old August 20th, 2000, 01:22 PM
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Hi Paul,
I think you may be right, this could lead to some changes in the Casino's on
ships. We'll just have to wait and see.

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Old August 22nd, 2000, 12:11 AM
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Default RE: Gaming on ships is not for real gamblers

Is it a coincidence or does Carnival have slots with better odds? On the fun ships, my money lasts much longer than on other vessels, where it's gone in a second. I've heard that they program the slots to give out the most the first and last day, but this never makes a difference when I play.
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Old August 22nd, 2000, 07:03 AM
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I don't think it's a coincidence, because I have noticed it, too. That's why Kuki only plays blackjack, the slots are horrible on most ships. Carnival is probably more of the exception because they appeal to a younger, more savvy and likely more cost-conscious crowd.
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Old August 23rd, 2000, 12:41 PM
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Default RE: Gaming on ships is not for real gamblers

Anne, I found that true too. On Grandeur last year playing the quarter slots, I fed the machine $32 (that's 128 coins) with out a single coin payout. Was considerably better on Fantasy in Feb.
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Old August 23rd, 2000, 01:36 PM
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So we aren't crazy! Ha! I have found the same on Holland America - no payout.

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> Anne, I found that true too. On Grandeur last year playing the
> quarter slots, I fed the machine $32 (that's 128 coins) with
> out a single coin payout. Was considerably better on Fantasy
> in Feb.
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Old August 26th, 2000, 11:44 PM
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Well, let's see. My cabinmate hit for $1200.00 on the Grand in May on a dollar machine...... and I came home with $64.00 extra in my pocket from the Pacific Princess... would've been more, but the weather was lousy!!! I found Red, White & Blue paying out on par with the Strip.
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Old August 27th, 2000, 12:20 AM
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Sure there are winners. BUT, Slot machines aren't called one armed bandits for nothing <G>
I have machines in my bar, and the payout here is controlled by the gov't. They set the machines, and tell us they pay out 86%. However, people tend to spin away their winnings, and the actual cash out as opposed to cash in seems to run a pretty steady 70% rate of actual pay out.

Guess thats why I prefer to take my chances at blackjack. At least my 30% seems to last a bit longer, and is more social..

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Old August 28th, 2000, 10:29 PM
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Does anyone know if you can get credit in casino to avoid the need for more cash and then pay at the end of the cruise (assuming you will be in the negative!). We will be on the Crystal Symphony
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Old August 28th, 2000, 11:40 PM
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CC..
Here's a link to an article I wrote about just this subject, kind of. The quick answer is.. I don't about Crystal for certain, but I would imagine they have a similar program to the cruiselines I mention in the article.

<http://www.cruisemates.com/Articles/cruiseguide/hum-op/freemoney.cfm>

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> Does anyone know if you can get credit in casino to avoid the
> need for more cash and then pay at the end of the cruise
> (assuming you will be in the negative!). We will be on the
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Old February 18th, 2001, 10:48 PM
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Hello,

I am sorry but i have to disagree with you, on the subject of blackjack. That is my favorite game and i have found many qualified players. Most recently on the SOS feb 8th.I love it when someone sits at 3rd base knowing what they are doping along with how to play for the table. I know there are plenty of books out there offering 'basic' to experienced play. I play basic strategy with a pretty good knack for knowing whats coming up.

There are 2 theories here;

1) If playing at a table with people who don't know what they are doing, you can always get up and walk away. I have done this several times when people are continuosly hitting against basic startegy.

2) the other theory is no matter how dumb someone may be playing the cards are still going to come out in the same order if the 'dummy' hits or not.

Again i have found many decent blackjack players, and just get up and leave when they aren't so good.

My last night i walked away 147 ahead..a great 3rd baseman, and good people around the table.

I have been on 6 Carnival ships and the SOS, that i draw my experioence from. and 2 Premiers.
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Old April 10th, 2002, 09:35 PM
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My experience on cruises has been mostly 1st time gamblers or at least neophytes, just doing it for grins. I will walk away when someone continuously plays "stupid". Like a guy that keeps splitting pictures in hopes that he might get an ace, even when the dealer is showing something like a 2 or 3. Everyone might make one or two stupid plays, but if a person obviously doesn't know strategy, that drives me nuts.
On Paradise last winter, 2 guys were playing by themselves against dealer. The were betting the table maximum of $100 per hand and each played either 2 or 3 hands at a time. They were both killing the house and pit boss had to keep bringing out trays. At one point each guy had about $15,000. And guess what? As fast as they won it, they lost every single dollar back. Now that's STUPID!! Everyone was croweded arouond watching them.
While on Legend in 2000, my husband made fun of me because I was the first person to place a bet on that cruise. I was just standing around waiting for casino to open. As you can see, I LOVE to gamble. Thank goodness my husband does also.
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Old July 7th, 2002, 10:56 AM
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Wondering if anyone has any updated info on NCL and it's casino's. My husband is an advanced BlackJack Dealer (plays several times a week). I'm trying to find a good shipboard casino for him to play so that I can cruise and enjoy it too Would appreciate any info that there is out there on what lines or ships may be the best to play Blackjack on. THANKS
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Old September 25th, 2002, 08:13 PM
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I was very lucky on my last cruise I won enough to keep me and my two sons in the casino for the whole cruise and come home with more gambling money then I left with.
I play mostly black jack. This time I hit 4 Jackpots on Dollar Vidio in two days . I agree about Carnival and Slot Machines.

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Old November 28th, 2003, 05:27 AM
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I agree with kuki...i recently played bj in laughlin where one particular table had some really great players...everyone played basic strategy but the atmosphere was that of a craps table...it was much more enjoyable with that kind of atmosphere.

On the note about the book....I actually gave a friend of mine that book before we left to vegas. He didnt play the whole first day and just studied the book and tried memorizing the plays. So on the second day we were at a single deck table and he recieved a 13 vs a dealer 2. As most of you know, you should stand, but he hit....and he ended up taking the bust card for the dealer. The whole table was mad at him the conversation went something like this:

"just so you know....you're not supposed to hit on 13 vs 2" - some drunk guy

"yeah you are ! i just read it in the book!" - my friend

"No, you never hit when the dealer shows a 2 if you have a chance of busting" - another guy

"i just read the book! it says to hit on it!' - my friend

"well whatever you read, you read it wrong!" -another lady

and then i whispered to him...."r, you're not supposed to hit on that man"

and then he stayed quiet.....
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Old November 28th, 2003, 05:33 AM
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Another thing.....technically it shouldn't matter whether the players play strategy or not on the table....but it is a frustrating to see someone hit 16 with dealer showing 5...

A "rookie guy' actually saved me once....it was just me and him on the table,...It was close to the end of the night, so i put up a lot of money....he was spot 4 and I spot 5....dealer showed a 6 or something, and he had a 13 i believe and I, an 18....he swayed back and forth for about 3 minutes trying to decide to hit or not......all i could think in my mind was "for god sake, STAND!" but i refrained from offering advice....he decided to hit, and recieved a 6....dealer turned her hole card over and it was 10....she ended up busting....(she would have got 21, if not for that guy)
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Old November 28th, 2003, 05:34 AM
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correction, he recieved a 5....i dont really remember..i just remember, he got the card that would have given the dealer 21
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