For the self-proclaimed blackjack "experts"........I can't believe that someone would label themselves an expert at the game and then berate someone for playing in a waythat they say affects their hand......jeez!!! Have they not read the statistics???? What I do at the table will not be relavant to your winning or losing in the over-all scheme of things.
I just got back from a cruise and both times that I went to the blackjack table I started with $50 and left with $100 each time....not big wins but I played for over 2 1/2 hours on that money. The last night of the cruise a young fellow and his wife sat down at the table. He kept making super dumb plays (like splitting 3's against a 5 or hitting on a 16 against the dealer's 6 showing). Even the dealer tried to help him but he kept playing the way he wanted to and lost what little money he had. They went away from the table quite unhappy. Hate seeing young folks who can't afford it lose money that way......from the way they were talking to each other, you could tell that they were hoping for a big win to pay some upcoming bills....
For splitting
Always split A's and 8's (super easy to remember)
Never 4's 5's and 10's (as above and makes common sense as one more card could give you a very strong hand or why give up a good one)
9 vs 9 or less except 7
7 vs 7 or less
6 vs 6 or less except 2
and 2,3 vs 4567 (hint: just remeber the four #'s sequentuialy above 3)
Soft doubling can bend you brain a little but it mostly concentrates on having A and (2,3,4,5,6,or 7) vs 2-6. The rules cover your hand in pairs of two starting with A 2/3 and then step up to A 6/7 ie. same rule for A2 and A3 etc. A chart to visialize is a great help here
Hitting 16 vs 6 isnt a good play.
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Well, the table had turned and the dealer was doin better than the players and when he split the 3's he lost both hands so it wasn't a good move for him...
after dealing on carnival ship for the last year ive seen the worst posible bj players win so often because of the amount of decks the house use.
when i first went on the ships they were use 8 decks in a shoe, major house oods. they cut at least 3 decks therefore imposible to count cards. now all carinval owned ships are getting shuffle machines, which continuasly shuffle the cards, even worse oods for the player.
i will say this, with the machines you'll never gat a good or bad shoe, but you will accasionally gett long streaks. i.e dealer win 8 hands play wins 8 hands, use this to your advantage.
Re: pet peeve: giving advice at the blackjack table
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Originally Posted by Robert6260
Bad play by other players can affect how your hands end up.
True. And blackjack experts will tell you that another player making the "wrong" play is equally as likely to have a positive effect on your hand as to have a negative effect. So, as far as your expected wins/losses, statistically speaking other people's play really doesn't matter.
OTOH, if being with "ploppies" interferes with your own enjoyment, you're right: play at a different table! Much better for everyone than staying and getting angry.
One more perspective to pick up this point. While there is no statistical worry about bad play impacting your outcome, in any given hand naturally it changes who gets what cards. While it may be annoying to get unwelcome advice, players will surely be found more annoying if they play wildly off-strategy. Other players will give no credit to losses converted into wins, but they will be angry when wins are turned into losses. Just human nature, I guess! 8)
Re: pet peeve: giving advice at the blackjack table
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Ok I've got a pet peeve. Its people who feel its necessary to offer up advice to others playing blackjack. Should you hit, stay, double down??? the guy to your left has an opinion and he's going to let you know whether you want his advice or not.
Anybody else get annoyed at this?
I've actually welcomed the advice but hey I'm just an amateur and even if I wasn't my skin is a little thicker that!
For the self-proclaimed blackjack "experts"........I can't believe that someone would label themselves an expert at the game and then berate someone for playing in a waythat they say affects their hand......jeez!!! Have they not read the statistics???? What I do at the table will not be relavant to your winning or losing in the over-all scheme of things.
A very small % of players play by BS and very few dealers know BS. At best they usually know about 80-90% BS. If you are counting on the dealer to play your hand for you, you are in trouble. Many will tell you the right play but I agree with other posters in that you should know how to play yourself.
I for one hate players who think everyone should play the way they do and get irate when somebodys play causes them to lose. Each card has an equal chance of being dealt next. This is especially true with the CSM.
I could care less if somebody else wants to waste their money by playing poorly. I they ask my advice I will tell them the correct play but otherwise it is not my problem. I think it is common courtesy to ask if the other players at the table mind if you come in mid shoe. Some tables you are not allowed to come in mid shoe. There are methods of card counting that take no skill or effort whatsoever just a decent bankroll. The A-5 method will lower the house advantage to 0% depending on the rules at the table.
I have seen many bizarre things on cruise ships. People splitting tens against 10's but not against anything else. People playing red and black at the same time at roulette. If you are looking to play with experienced players you may be better off staying out of the casino on the cruise ship.
I like having the bad players around. It means the casino can offer good rules to all of us, good and bad, and still make money.
The A-5 count sounds good in theory, but with an eight deck shoe and only five deck penetration, it's not worth the trouble. To make the count work would require an extreme betting range, and a huge bankroll.
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Re: pet peeve: giving advice at the blackjack table
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I usually only play at the $25.00 or higher tables to avoid beginners. Cruise ships haver a lot of first time blackjack players. Bad play by other players can affect how your hands end up.
yep like the idots who split 10's, Hit when the dealer is showing a 6, etc etc ... I'll keep my mouth shut for marginally dumb moves but will open it if someone is doing something idotic. BTW, beginners usually appreciate the advice when given tactfully :evil:
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