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Old December 20th, 2007, 07:46 PM
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Im sailing on RCCL and im 17, but people have told me i could pass for 20. I want to play some blackjack with my dad, how strict are they on the age? He's taught me basic strategy and made it clear that if i slow down the table i wont gamble with him again.
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If they suspect you're young you'll be asked to produce ID.
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used to work in the casino for carnival and there you would be id'd if they think you are under 18 or close. More likely at a table with the supervisors and dealers as well. AND if you did hit big you have to provide ID for the money so you'd be SOL.
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My 190 pound at six foot five, aged 16 son played cards on the ship casino, they only caught him because he is a card counter..never asked his age.

But he is now costing me a fortune to try and undo his casino addiction and he's so screwed up, just wants to play cards
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Every ship board casino I've played blackjack at had a minimum of 5 decks.

A computer can barely count that.

He was removed for some other reason, huh?

Or is there a ship with single deck?
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Every ship board casino I've played blackjack at had a minimum of 5 decks - True

A computer can barely count that.....mmm, dont think so.

You are a wee bit confused, card counters do not count one deck. Most of us could do that
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I agree with Rinker250, I would really like to see a card player card count a 5+ deck blackjack table. I do not like the large deck tables but that is all they will offer on the ship. Luckily for me most ships are offering a poker room which gives me another choice of gaming! Good luck everyone. Rinker, I just sold a Rinker230 FYI.
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I wish all the underage players would just wait.
You may fool the dealers, but you don't fool us.
Plus, the room wants as many players as possible.
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I can speak from experience on this one. They most certainly will card you in the casino, they are usually very strict about this policy. Fake ID anyone?

On a side note it is very possible to count 5 decks, and even up to 8 decks. There are many different counting systems where this is more than possible. And if I had a computer with me at the table I could count any number of decks the casino wanted to throw at me.

DayvidB...how was he caught? Unfortunately on CCL they use continous shuffling machines so it is impossible to count.
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I started playing Blackjack in Reno and Tahoe when I was just 15. My sister and I would go up for a weekend 3 or 4 times a year when she was 18 and I was 15. We would play sometimes for 8 or 9 hours straight on just $100 each (this was back when $1 tables and single deck blackjack could still be found). We often became friendly with the dealers and, sometimes, even the pit bosses. Never had a problem with being asked for ID. We even were served the free alcohol at the tables, although we ordered it more to look "grown up" than to really drink since neither of us like the taste of alcohol. I think the trick is to act confident and not give away by your attitude that you are doing anything wrong.

My nephew was able to successfully play on a Princess ship last year at age 17. He doesn't look particularly old for his age, so I don't think he would have gotten away with it in a land-based casino where they have tighter regulations and enforcement spies to worry about.
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You are asking for trouble. If they found someone gambling underage you would likely be kicked off the ship along with the person responsible for you. Bottom line, until you are 18, you would be committing a crime and no casino will tolerate the breaking of the law.
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You are asking for trouble. If they found someone gambling underage you would likely be kicked off the ship along with the person responsible for you. Bottom line, until you are 18, you would be committing a crime and no casino will tolerate the breaking of the law.
underage gambling on a cruise is not breaking the "law." The ship is in international waters and the only thing i broke when i tried to play on my trip was a RCCL rule, and all that happened was that i was asked to leave the table. The pit boss was nice about it, and gave my dad a t-shirt to give to me as a nice try gift.
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You are asking for trouble. If they found someone gambling underage you would likely be kicked off the ship along with the person responsible for you. Bottom line, until you are 18, you would be committing a crime and no casino will tolerate the breaking of the law.
underage gambling on a cruise is not breaking the "law." The ship is in international waters and the only thing i broke when i tried to play on my trip was a RCCL rule, and all that happened was that i was asked to leave the table. The pit boss was nice about it, and gave my dad a t-shirt to give to me as a nice try gift.
The "law" is the law from the country of embarcation...pretty sure you were underage regardless.

More importantly, there is nothing more irritating than an inexperienced black jack player... and one who is under 18 is definitely inexperienced.

After all, the only tables they have played are the ones they snuck onto on a ship, right? How much experience could they have?
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Also, there is the fact that for those who are of age who wish to learn, the best time to go is during the day hours while at sea, when the casinos are relatively slow, compared to how they will be during the evening hours. The downside is even when underage gamblers get away with it, and I am by no means condoning it, there winds up being problems for the rest of us if they win. Because they would lose money on illegal gamblers, a casino may decide to change the odds further in the house's favor to compensate. Another issue with underage gambling is they do not know when to stop because they are too young to have discipline, and this can lead to a gambling addiction, and there is a good chance this kid's father is a gambling addict teaching his son basic strategy. A sure sign that someone has spent too much time in a casino to begin with.
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and there is a good chance this kid's father is a gambling addict teaching his son basic strategy. A sure sign that someone has spent too much time in a casino to begin with.
WOW! how big of an assumption can you make? My father rarely gambles, in fact he goes once a year to vegas with his buddies (not lately though because he would rather watch me play soccer) and gambles on our once a year cruises.
He taught me basic strategy because i was reading the book 21 (before the movie came out) and i asked him about black jack. He said for me to understand the book, i should understand basic strategy. So, yes he taught me but that does not make him an "addict"
And really, you have no right to call my dad an addict without even having a clue what your talking about
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Relax kid, in the adult world that's an easy assumption to make.
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I actually do know what I am talking about(having been an observer in casinos since I was 13), and I was simply going on evidence presented. Most often the case is that kids learn strategy from addict parents. You just happen to be an exception to the rule. That is the main difference. When most kids learn 21 all they learn is hit and stand, not when to do what. I hope you can understand how I drew this conclusion. My apologies though for the offense.
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yes, brad. you do not know what you are talking about, as on most all of your posts. i suspect you have very little real world experience at anything -- from gambling to putting together at group cruise. you sound to me like a college grad, maybe with an advanced degree in, say, social psychology, who has it all figured out. well, live a little bit and your social idealism my be tempered. i've been where you are, buddy, and i have seen a lot. hombre
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Shakes head. I do not open my mouth without knowledge. I have no degree yet, but I prefer to keep a positive outlook on things. I have in fact been researching regulations on cruiselines and also know how easy it is for the human animal(and that is what human beings are......a herd of animals who go along with anything they are told.....herd mentality and all). I have no interest in psychology beyond how it applies to my acting. I do not appreciate being called naive when I keep an open mind and often have foresight where others will not. Wisdom is knowledge tempered through experience, and I have had some experiences I learned alot from that were terrible to go through. Nobody is right all the time and everyone sees things differently. If I am ignorant of something, it is simply because I have not been given the information to make the correct judgement yet. In any case "Hombre", either be positive towards me or do not post anything about me, if you please.
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It is amazing how many clueless people have posted on this thread. If someone wants to speak with authority instead of out their ass, back it up with the source.

For starters, this link will show you inexperienced card players that card counting can be done easily for up to 8 decks, but is more commonly used in a six deck shoe (standard size shoe at most multi deck tables).

Here is the source:
Card counting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Although it doesn't hurt to mention I'm a professional poker player...

Also, a 17 year old may or may not pass for the casino, just depends on how old the person truly looks and who is working the pit. If the pit asks for ID, J-Unit or anyone else for that matter would simply say they forgot it in their room or "don't have it" and they would be kindly asked to leave. That simple. No getting "kicked off the ship" or any other crazy crap some of you posters pull out your rectum.

Good Lord. Had to settle that nonsense!
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