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Old November 28th, 2005, 02:35 AM
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Default 200% single supp on rsvp-ouch!

I didn't expect this on a ship catering to a class of people most likely to be single-sort of a no-brainer if I ever saw one. I guess I won't be taking a gay cruise anytime soon. I know they need to maximize profits from each stateroom, but sheesh! Like most single gay men I have a lot of disposable income to put toward travel but their gonna have to do better than that to get me to spend it.
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Old November 28th, 2005, 01:19 PM
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Default I agree completely...

But most of their trips, about 60-70% of the group is "couples." If not legally yet, still they're there as a couple. They should go more in line with cruise companies and charge maybe 150%.
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Not to defend them....but with the waiting lists RSVP and Atlantis routinely have....they can fill those cabins at basis 2....so why would they take a loss? It's simple economics, nothing more and nothing less.

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Old November 28th, 2005, 10:49 PM
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I know its simple economics, but I still needed to b**ch about it. Single travelers too often get the short end of the stick. I guess I'd pay the high supplement if I wanted to go bad enough (I don't); a ship full of 2,000 screaming friends of Dorothy is a bit over the top for me.
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Trust me I know! I travel as a single now too, and it sucks at times financially at least! I did get a very nice deal (less than 2 weeks to go!) on the MSC Lirica for December 10th....got an outside cabin for 150%, which I thought was great. I figure every cruise I go on is a gay cruise lol!

Actually, I have met some guys from Colorado who are on my sailing so we're going to get together for drinks etc. Should be fun. I don't think the Rsvp/Atlantis thing would be for me, but I definitely like to meet at least some G/L folks on board (and nice straight folks too of course!)

So, there are better alternatives out there....I do think maybe both Rsvp and Atlantis have share programs? Or another alternative is going with a large group booking such as Pied Piper travel does...they might have a share as well or a better single rate. That way you'd get a nice gay group to go with but not necessarily a full ship charter, etc. Might be worth looking into. I keep meaning to look into the Pied Piper thing myself and see what's out there. That could suit me a little better I think.

Anyhow, good luck!

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Old November 29th, 2005, 08:29 AM
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Have a great time Jeff and do tell all about it when you get back. MSC doesn't have much of a presence in the Pacific so any deals would be eaten up by airfare for me. I got a 150% supp on Holland America too. When I book my fall cruise in May, the supplement will be the deciding factor on who I sail with. I'll look into the Pied Piper cruises too. A smaller gay group might be more to my liking.


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Old November 29th, 2005, 09:15 AM
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Default RSVP/Atlantis share

They do both have a "Share Program" based on smoking/non-smoking basis, and I've tried it 3 times on RSVP. First one was great - we got along but rarely ever saw each other. Plus he didn't snore, wasn't a drunk, we both smoked. Second time wasn't good - he was a "just-out" idiot 22-yr-old from the backwoods with no clue on how to act in public and he clung to me like poison ivy.
Third time was also not too good. It was a 2-week cruise - for the first week I had a decent guy who was gone most of the time. The second week I got an "escort" who's "benefactor" had fired him at the end of week one and kicked him out. RSVP put him in with me, and this guy was a totally over-the-top drugged-out party animal. When I first walked into the room, I saw 12 pieces of Louis Vuitton luggage taking all the floor space and he was unpacking. He looked up and just said, "Oh, no - this won't do" until he saw my Rolex and said "Well, maybe we can work something out." Sheesh. RSVP finally kicked him off the ship after 2 days, thankfully. Then I had the cabin to myself for the rest of the cruise and that sold me on solo cruising - unless I go with someone I already know.
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God-what a nightmare! And it reaffirms my belief in goin it solo, cruises cost way too much darn money to take chances. You'd think they'd at least try and match on a few criteria
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RSVP is offering a 150% single......this is a direct quote off of their website its for the 6 day cruise leaving on Feb 26th out of Fort Lauderdale.

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We are offering a specal 150% single supplement for this cruise. Actual cabin is not assigned until documents are issued.
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Oh I don't know, I think the escort boy sounds fun lol.

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I took an RSVP a few years ago and actually found more couples than singles on the cruise... in fact there was only one single guy...although I can't say he was lonely, I think he would have preferred to be on a cruise with more singles.

Perhaps you should check out an Atlantis cruise. I believe they will match you up with a room mate if you need them to.
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If you call RSVP I think you may find some very attractive rates on that 6 day sailing.

As far as 200% goes that is not just an RSVP thing. Most cruise companies charge 200% for singles. There are sometimes certain cabins or slow seasons when you will get better deals.

There is also a website just for single cruisers. The girl that runs it has some great specials. I don't have it in front of me but can find it if anyone is interested.
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I agree with most of the comments:
1) Doubling the price is very steep -- significantly more than could be obtained on some other cruises.

2) RSVP and Atlantis, however, are entitled to make every penny they can from the cabin price. Clearly, the high surcharge is not keeping away passengers. They sail full. Still, when they have trouble filling a ship, as they seem to be on the RSVP 6-day cruise in February, which was to have stopped in New Orleans for Mardi Gras (maybe it still will stop there), RSVP will cut a better deal, as they are with the 150% price.

3) Even paying 200% of the price is worth it to get a single cabin. I'll be on RSVP's this year's 8-day early March cruise and am willingly (though gritting my teeth) paying the supplement. It will be my 6th RSVP cruise. I'm over 60 -- and think that the RSVP formula works extremely well. Though the price is high, I always feel I'm getting fair value for my money. In a single cabin I don't have the problem of a stranger for a roommate. And -- and this has turned out to be a big big bonus -- when I meet some guys who do want to play, the fact that I have a cabin by myself, without us worrying about a roommate being present, has turned out to be an attractive factor. Really.

Bottom LIne: If you want to try RSVP - and I think it's worth trying -- don't let the supplement stop you. It's great traveling on straight ships; I've done so about 2 dozen times and always meet gay guys. And it's great traveling with a group of gay guys on a straight ship -- as I've done a half dozen times with Pied Piper and Above and Beyond. But there is nothing quite like the exhilarating fun of an all gay cruise. And, to repeat, I'm 60 and clearly not a "party bpy."

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Old December 7th, 2005, 06:32 PM
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Frank-I'm with ya on paying the single supps, just not 200%. I got no problem with 150% which I have paid, I also purchase plenty of extras on the ship, so I think the cruiselines get their money's worth out of me.

On RSVP specifically, I really don't think it's my thing and I wouldn't chance it at the prices they are askin for. I'm not into bars or the stuck up crowd that hangs out in them-99% of whom get on my nerves after about 5 minutes anyway.

I prefer to take things in smaller doses, so yeah a gay group would be much more preferable than having the whole ship. And if I meet someone, I'm going to dance with him regardless of what the other heteros on the ship do/say. I don't need to be on a gay ship to express my natural feelings. Unless of course the ship was booked by a large contingent of the NRA.
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