CruiseMates Cruise Community and Forums

CruiseMates Cruise Community and Forums (http://www.cruisemates.com/forum/)
-   Holland America (http://www.cruisemates.com/forum/holland-america/)
-   -   changing after dinner? (http://www.cruisemates.com/forum/holland-america/216344-changing-after-dinner.html)

Majika July 18th, 2005 10:55 AM

changing after dinner?
 
On other message boards it has been a topic of much debate about whether to change into comfy short and tees or polos for the show or to remain dressed to the nines. Im for comfy. Since we have been on many other cruise lines in the past but not HAL we really dont want to look out of place. Will we if we change into shorts for the shows?

DeeDee July 18th, 2005 11:33 AM

Re: changing after dinner?
 
That's strictly your decision and I am sure no one is going to look down their noses at you. I have seen lots of people in more comfortable clothing in the show Lounge. As long as you are dressed properly for dinner, who really cares what you wear in a dark room. (smile)

venice July 18th, 2005 12:18 PM

Re: changing after dinner?
 
DeeDee is right on topic..my experience has been the only time most people stay dressed is on the first formal night. Every man in a tux goes to the casino and we pretend we are James Bond (VBG)..On no formal nights, people change into comfortable clothes to go to the shows etc..don't sweat the small stuff, wear what makes you feel comfortable

Majika July 18th, 2005 01:05 PM

Re: Re: changing after dinner?
 
Well that was simple. On other message boards (and you know who i mean) if you asked that question you were in for a world of hurt. According the 'them' absolutely no one would dare dress down after dinner. And rules are rules and never to be broken. I know the posters are in a small minority and i must keep that in mind when i ask questions. But I've gotten my head chewed off over there before. I now know never ever to ask about wearing shorts and smuggling booze. Unless I want to start World War 3 and Ive asked and posted things just to get them on a roll. Such fun! Thanks for your replies, we leave on July 30th.

DeeDee July 18th, 2005 01:22 PM

Re: changing after dinner?
 
I know which board you are talking about Majika - there is a group that thinks they know everything and really know nothing. (smile) Best to keep away from there if you have any questions.

Have a great cruise. By the way, what ship are you sailing on and to where?

venice July 18th, 2005 03:11 PM

Re: changing after dinner?
 
hey, if you want we CAN make it complicated (BG)..

Majika July 18th, 2005 05:10 PM

Re: Re: changing after dinner?
 
We are leaving July 30th on the Zuiderdam for the western caribbean. And I will be wearing my shorts after dinner. I just dont know how anyone could walk around all night in heels. I need to be comfortable to watch the shows and waste my money in the casino. I just hope there are not a lot of snobs on this ship. One gets that feeling from the other message board. Though Ive posted a roll call and the people that have responded all sound very nice and down to earth. Perhaps I should ask them if they are dressing down as well.

and no venice please dont make it harder...'they' make it hard enough. I just read and sometimes I get hot under the collar about what they are saying. one question asked over there was about mens socks on formal night. another asked if women wore stockings on formal night...i piped up and told them that i didnt wear hosiery on formal night because it hid all my tattoos. They never responded to me. It was a joke of course. :)

Suki July 18th, 2005 05:22 PM

Re: changing after dinner?
 
Hi Majika* - you could always go with the procedure set out in HAL's 'What to Know Before You Go' booklet- it comes with your documents. However, I wonder why you ask the question when you've decided

Quote "... I will be wearing my shorts after dinner. I just dont know how anyone could walk around all night in heels."end Quote

OLD MAN July 18th, 2005 05:47 PM

Re: changing after dinner?
 
Well I think that people should not dress down after dinner.. I like the look of everone dressed up and it does not look good to see someone in shorts mixed in with a crowd of nicely dressed people.. If you do wear your shorts at least leave your tank top in your room..OM

Majika July 18th, 2005 07:15 PM

Re: Re: changing after dinner?
 
Suki: I had not decided until after I received those replies. As for heels, I cant wear them anyway, that was just a general comment.

Im just hoping old man and suki is not escapees of CC..lol. just teasing. I understand everyone has a right to their own opinion.

ssca July 18th, 2005 08:16 PM

Re: changing after dinner?
 
Majika, I wish you were on the 23rd sailing! I agree with you! Last year we were on RCI and changed after dinner which was almost 11pm and did not even think twice about it and then after reading the posts on another board I think I know the one you refer to I feel like we are breaking the law! All I want to do is maybe change into something more comfortable after dinner. My boys who are 18 & 15 will for sure change, they played basketball last year. This is our 1st Hal cruise and it can not be that different that RCI as far as dress "suggestions" go.

Majika July 18th, 2005 08:45 PM

Re: Re: changing after dinner?
 
ssca..

you know what it doesnt even have to be shorts for women really. a nice sun dress with a little light sweater.. who is that killing? ive heard them talking about a ruined dining experience if someone shows up in a sport jacket instead of a dark suit. come on..if you dont like it dont look. if they are clean and of the non-smelling variety whats the big deal? The rules for all the other ships are the same as HAL's..dark suit or tux on formal night, cocktail or evening dress for ladies...to which I adhere to. But after dinner Im on my own time. Vacation time, precious time. And dont tell me to choose another cruise line if i dont want to abide by the rules (the other board has made that comment countless times) My dollars are as green as the guy in the next room (oops that just happens to be my brother and his wife hahah) and i doubt HAL is gonna kick me off the ship for prancing around in a sundress or nice shorts. geez that felt good to rant a little.. i do thank you.. :)

DeeDee July 19th, 2005 08:19 AM

Re: changing after dinner?
 
Good for you Majika. (smile)

ssca July 19th, 2005 09:37 AM

Re: changing after dinner?
 
It is really funny what some people say is'nt it? Ruin their cruise?? Oh come on. If they have that much energy to look for what people are wearing they need a new cruise partner. If someone offered me a million dollars I couldnt tell you what 10 people had on at any 1 given time (except fot the girl with the thong on ,my boys were watching) oh yeah what is the bathing suit dress code???? now there is a new idea!!!!!!!!! Have a great cruise!

Majika July 19th, 2005 06:14 PM

Re: Re: changing after dinner?
 
I agree ssca that there should be a bathing suit dress code. Thongs and teeny tiny bikini's ruin my cruising experience because Im too old and fat to wear one anymore. And all the hubby beating that goes on behind the scenes for them watching those nakedly thonged hineys roaming the lido deck. Should be a law against it. And Im not gonna be prejudice either that goes for men in speedos and thongs as well. What makes an old fat flabby man or woman for that matter, think they look remotely sexy in a speedo or thong?? This will be my 8th cruise so Ive seen a lot of nearly naked bathers in my time. The 70ish grandmother at Orient beach took the cake however. Dressed in thong bottoms, topless, frolicking in the shallow surf while her speedo clad 75ish husband/boyfriend/photographer, snapped about 1000's pictures of her. I give them credit though, they both had a ton of self confidence but of course exhibitionists usually do. Anyhow... i think we should lobby for a one-piece bathing suit code for men and women on HAL. Im all set with looking at some of those man-boobs too.

westie July 25th, 2005 02:17 PM

Re: changing after dinner?
 
Majik,

Yes it is a topic of much debate on another board. I read that board occassionally and as someone mentioned there is a group that thinks they run the board, and heaven forbid anyone disagree with their opinions. I didn't see the one about socks. I will have to take a look when I have time.

Many men loose the jackets after dinner. My husband has changed from the tux to dockers and a knit short once or twice. If I were not comfortable I would change also.

Hope you have a wonderful cruise.

traveljen July 31st, 2005 09:54 PM

Re: changing after dinner?
 
According to the ship's guide, "In order to complement your fellow guests, Holland America asks that you observe the suggested dress code throughout the entire evening". Personally, I like the idea that everyone will be dressed the same so no one will feel uncomfortable, but that is your call. As I never really get the opportunity to dress up, I'm really looking forward to this part of the cruise. BTW, flats are all the rave this season - you don't have even have to wear heels (or stockings, for that matter) to be dressed up anymore. Also, while you should certainly be able to do whatever you want, I wonder why you chose Holland America with its reputation for stricter rules & guidelines - if you really don't like the dresscode, then maybe a different cruiseline would have been a better choice? I think the typical person who chooses Holland America over some of the other cruiselines is looking for a certain kind of cruise experience, which includes the dresscode, high tea, activities, etc. and I can see why someone who wants that type of experience might be offended if someone showed up wearing shorts or a sundress to what is supposed to be a nice, dressy dinner...this is why HAL provides the guidelines in the first place, to make sure everyone is on the same page. Anyway, I hope you enjoy your cruise and I am certainly looking forward to mine at the end of the month!! :-)

OLD MAN August 1st, 2005 06:41 PM

Re: changing after dinner?
 
People should stay dressed up through out the evening. Lets keep some class here.. OM

Candy August 2nd, 2005 10:08 AM

Re: changing after dinner?
 
traveljen, Suki and old man: Right on! I agree 100%...

Majika: HAL requests that the suggested mode of dress be observed for the entire evening. This helps create the elegant atmosphere that is desired by many long-time HAL cruisers. The past passengers on the "other" board (who are in NO WAY the minority) who don't share your obvious intention to enjoy the ship but ignore the dress request, cruise on HAL ships BECAUSE of the upscale atmosphere. I would not recommend asking your Roll Call members about how they are dressing. You have described yourself as "too old and fat...". Perhaps that is your problem - that you don't feel attractive in a dress and would prefer the unrestricted comfort of shorts and a T. There are many stores that offer affordable, comfortable formal wear.

Other lines offer a more casual experience and may be more to your liking.

DeeDee: The cruisers that answer questions on the "other" board are mostly frequent HAL cruisers and have experience on the line, rather than virgins or HAL first-timers who are just speculating.

ssca: In some areas, HAL and RCI are worlds apart. I was on the Majesty OTS in November and many of the pax looked like slobs. If the cruise hadn't been free, I wouldn't have gone.

westie: My husband also changes after dinner, to a nice tropical print shirt and slacks. I prefer to stay dressed appropriately, and I will NEVER be seen in the casino after dinner in shorts!

ssca August 2nd, 2005 10:46 AM

Re: changing after dinner?
 
We just returned from the Zuiderdam and as far as an elegant atmosphere Im sorry but Royal Caribbean smokes Holland America!! We were on the RCI Vista class ship NOS and you are right Candy they are worlds apart ! As far as the dress, I was stressed out before we left after reading everything about changing and my teenage boys attaire,well stress no more because 75% of the pax do their own thing! And the biggest dress code offenders were the older crowd! They wore what they wore 20 years ago, good for them that they can still vacation.Out of all the pax in wheel chairs and canes they were the most fun to talk to. There were a mixture of everything and yes they do let you in the dinning room with out a tie on formal night as I saw several men with out. There were 8 at our table and my husband was the only one in a tux, one sport coat no tie and one sport coat with tie and my boys had just ties no sport coat. As teenagers there were a lot of just shirts and ties no jackets and a lot of short seleve shirts. There were women with capri jeans allowed in. We had the 8:30 dinner so walking to the dinning room through the casino there were a lot of people who had changed.It depends on where you are.We went to the Crows Nest one formal night and 75% were still formal. I had read this post before we left so I did pay attention to it and beleave me what people were wearing did not in any way effect our vacation!!! Just go have a good time and don't worry about what othere people wear. Be prepared for the heat it was almost unbearable at times.

DeeDee August 2nd, 2005 11:07 AM

Re: changing after dinner?
 
DeeDee: The cruisers that answer questions on the "other" board are mostly frequent HAL cruisers and have experience on the line, rather than virgins or HAL first-timers who are just speculating.

Well Candy, I have been cruising with HAL and only HAL for a lot longer than some of those people on that "other" board, in fact I will be celebrating 25 years of cruising with HAL when I am on the Veendam this November.

Times have changed from the days when we first started cruising with HAL - no such thing as "casual" night, jackets required by gentlemen every night after 5 pm, in public areas (and this was enforced) ladies dressed every night for dinner in dresses - no such thing as wearing dressy pants with a smart top, which I do now on Informal nights and casual nights. I find I am more comfortable with the dress nowadays. But that's just me.

I never change after dinner but if people want to change into more comfortable clothing to either go to the show or to the Casino then that's their perogative and it certainly won't spoil my cruise.

westie August 2nd, 2005 11:57 AM

Re: changing after dinner?
 
Dee Dee,

Wow 25 years, that is what I would call an experienced cruiser. You must have more information than anyone on this board and all the other boards on the internet.

Candy August 2nd, 2005 10:06 PM

Re: changing after dinner?
 
westie: Behave yourself or they might make you walk the plank!

westie August 3rd, 2005 07:24 AM

Re: changing after dinner?
 
Candy

?????? I guess I just don't get it. Walk the plank because I think Dee Dee is an experienced cruiser?

Candy August 3rd, 2005 08:59 AM

Re: Re: changing after dinner?
 
No, walk the plank for the sarcastic remark:
"You must have more information than anyone on this board and all the other boards on the internet."

Candy

westie August 3rd, 2005 11:29 AM

Re: changing after dinner?
 
Candy,

And what do you consider "walking the plank" ?

Sorry you took my post as sarcastic.

IT WAS MEANT AS A COMPLIMENT.

DeeDee August 3rd, 2005 12:37 PM

Re: changing after dinner?
 
Westie - I took your post as a COMPLIMENT not as being sarcastic. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

sailgirl August 3rd, 2005 06:04 PM

Re: changing after dinner?
 
westie - I thought your post was a compliment also.

Suki August 3rd, 2005 09:34 PM

Re: changing after dinner?
 
If anyone said something sarcastic I'm afraid I missed it.

Have a feeling I know DeeDee having been cruising HAL since '77 - she must be more knowledgable than most anyone here.

Suki August 3rd, 2005 09:39 PM

Re: changing after dinner?
 
If anyone said something sarcastic I'm afraid I missed it.

Have a feeling I know DeeDee having been cruising HAL since '77 - she must be more knowledgable than most anyone here.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:41 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.1