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Old April 4th, 2009, 03:11 PM
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Hello Fellowcruisers,

I have never been on the HML and was told by a HML agent that smoking is allowed inside as well as outside the balcony staterooms.

Could someone please tell me if the smoke from the rooms below, side to side and above drift into your room (both my husband and myself are non-smokers).

Thank you for your assistance.


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I've never found that it drifts into the room, but I will say that when we were on the Eurodam last month, we could tell which cabins had smokers in them as we walked down the hall.

We've never smelled smoke when sitting on our balcony, but then our neighbours might not have been smoking.
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Old April 4th, 2009, 09:34 PM
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Hello Dee,

Thank you for your reply.

Well I guess it's basically the luck of the draw then.


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elf, you can ask this on every board and are going to get the same answer..This is part of cruising you will have to adjust to or find another type of vacation..

I will say, HAL is the first ship we sailed that did have a smoking and non smoking casino nights, I will also add their casinos are pretty small, but it was nice to have a night where smoking was not allowed.. Princess has the same policy I may add. Carnival is a little more leniet about smoking but basically this is what you are going to find:

Smoking is allowed in cabins and on the balocnies
cabins are cleaned and diodorized throughly after guest vacate and before the next guest occupy the cabins.

Smoking will be allowed in a couple of bars and one side of the ship outside. This is pretty much the only places there will be any smoking

RCI does have non smoking cabins, but they allow smoking in more public areas than many other lines.

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Most hotels are now entirely smoke-free. I'm glad I quit. Saves me from worrying about it. But, as long as it's legal, I expect that others who do smoke have the right to do it in designated areas. It is a tired subject but people usually feel rather strongly about it. Understandably.
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"Smoking will be allowed in a couple of bars and one side of the ship outside."
On the Eurodam recently the only bar where smoking was allowed was the Sports Bar - no smoking in the Ocean Bar, Atrium Martini Bar, Dolphin Bar (at the midship pool) or the Crow's Nest.

You could smoke at the Sports Bar and the Casino - don't know if they had some night that were non-smoking in the Casino........we only went to the Casino twice and both times it was filled with smoke - that is why we left.

Outside only the Starboard side of the aft pool allowed smoking. No smoking at the mid-ship pool at all.

I wouldn't be surprised to see all the ships go this way.

They use an ionizing machine to get rid of the smoke in the cabins, which does a very good job.

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smoke drifts upwards and towards the stern of the ship - try and get a cabin near the front....
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I have cruised HAL three times and can quite honestly say I have never been bothered by smoke. I have always been a non smoker and smoke has always bothered me so I would be the first to say if it was a problem. The only place I stayed out of was the casino. They do have non smoking nights but since that is an area of noninterest for me it didn't matter. The Ocean Bar one night had a big group of smokers so we just sat at the other end and was fine. I have never been bothered by it around the cabins or out on deck or in any of the bars.
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Happily, HAL is limiting smoking more and more.

We just returned from two weeks on Eurodam and it was a pleasure how few places we encountered smokers.

It is only recently that smoking has been banned in Ocean Bar on all ships fleetwide.

Word has it that cabin verandahs are the next place smoking will be banned.

That being said, we are always pleased with how fresh the cabins smell when we board. We have never had to request additional cleaning in our cabin. The stewards do a wonderful job of getting the smoke out if smokers were in the cabin the cruise prior.
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We just returned from two weeks on the Maasdam (heaven!) you are allowed to smoke in cabins. We are not smokers and we could smell smoke in the hallways on deck 5, forward, esp. in the morning. I don't know how they would be able to get smoke out of rooms from sailing to sailing, but we did not detect any smokey smell in our room.

We all received a special questionnaire at the end of the cruise regarding if we would continue to sail HAL if smoking was not allowed. Our table mates (smokers) were outraged at the implications and said that HAL would cease to exist if it outlawed smoking on board.
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We all received a special questionnaire at the end of the cruise regarding if we would continue to sail HAL if smoking was not allowed. Our table mates (smokers) were outraged at the implications and said that HAL would cease to exist if it outlawed smoking on board.
That is laughable that HAL would cease to exist. That is so ridiculous.

Less than 18% of HAL's guests on average smoke. The percentage drops continuously as society as a whole has fewer and fewer smokers.

HAL just recently started to ban smoking in almost every bar on board and more restrictions are coming very soon.

When 82 + % of the guests want it eliminated, the company will be pleasing their vast majority.
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Our table mates pointed to the fact that they had booked on a cruise line and were informed after their booking that the cruise line had gone smoke free, before they could cancel their booking it went bankrupt and out of business one month after they posted the non-smoking ban. Our table mates felt that their was a definite correlation between the two facts.

Less than 18% of HAL's guests on average smoke. I don't know if you own a business, but I do. A sudden drop of 18% of my business would definitely cut into my profit margin and with the prices currently available in the cruise industry, I believe they are running on a tight margin and wouldn't be able to forgo 20%. I think they are fighting for every customer they have.

I also wonder if they went smokeless what would they do with their crew? When I was in the various ports and would meet up with crew members, they almost all were smoking from the waiter to the boys in the showcast. I wouldn't feel like the ship was smokeless if they allow the crew to continue to smoke.
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No place did I say that No Smoking would be permitted at any location on HAL ships in the foreseeable future. I think there will be a few spots it will be permitted but hopefully verandas will not be among them.

What I said was they are cutting back the spaces where it is permitted.
They have lost HAL customers to other cruise lines which have more stringent smoking policies than they have. HAL has been, so far but not for long, more lenient policy. They, too, are listening to their guests and are tightening it to match what most of the other cruise lines in their approximate category are doing.

They may lose some small percentage of cruisers but they will get back the ones they lost already to ships that are less lenient with smoking.

They also will get people who, until now, have not started cruising because they did not want to be subjected to smoke.

Many of us live in states where we almost never encounter smoke in public and it is unpleasant for us on the ships when we are exposed to it. We've become accustomed to smoke free environments as our states do not allow smoking in any workplace. Almost everywhere you go is a workplace for someone.

All business lose customers and gain others all the time. It is the nature of being in business. No one holds every customer. (Almost) none lose every customer.
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No place did I say that No Smoking would be permitted at any location on HAL ships in the foreseeable future. I think there will be a few spots it will be permitted but hopefully verandas will not be among them.

What I said was they are cutting back the spaces where it is permitted.
They have lost HAL customers to other cruise lines which have more stringent smoking policies than they have. HAL has been, so far but not for long, more lenient policy. They, too, are listening to their guests and are tightening it to match what most of the other cruise lines in their approximate category are doing.

They may lose some small percentage of cruisers but they will get back the ones they lost already to ships that are less lenient with smoking.

They also will get people who, until now, have not started cruising because they did not want to be subjected to smoke.

Many of us live in states where we almost never encounter smoke in public and it is unpleasant for us on the ships when we are exposed to it. We've become accustomed to smoke free environments as our states do not allow smoking in any workplace. Almost everywhere you go is a workplace for someone.

All business lose customers and gain others all the time. It is the nature of being in business. No one holds every customer. (Almost) none lose every customer.

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Just a question, but don't you think it is better for people to smoke on their balconies where the smoke can blow away, than in their rooms, wher the smell would linger and spread to the halls?
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