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rorry July 15th, 2010 03:18 PM

formal nights
 
For a formal dinner night,Is it really necessary for the men to wear a suit jacket and tie or can they get by with nice pants and shirt?

Lakers Fan July 15th, 2010 03:25 PM

I was on a HAL cruise in 2008 and wore a black suit and tie . I would say about 20% of the men were dressed in polo shirts and khakis .A cousin of mine was on a HAL cruise earlier this year and said he was not formerely dressed and it was fine .

I am taking an HAL cruise this year and I plan to wear a suit ,however ,if I owned a tux I would wear one .

Trip July 15th, 2010 03:33 PM

Since this is a HAL cruise, I do think you will find yourself a bit under dressed. This line I found, has a more traditional vibe, so, I would pack that tie, and jacket for the dinner, and if you want, later remove them.

johnthed0g July 15th, 2010 03:38 PM

Not being funny, but if people dont dress up on a formal night what part of the night is formal then??
PS...AND if people just wear ''pants & shirts'' on a formal night what on earth do they wear on a casual night?

Trackypup July 15th, 2010 03:41 PM

based on my 1 Holland America cruise, not it wouldn't be necessary. There were lots of pants and shirts only.

rorry July 15th, 2010 03:52 PM

I hear you :), I'm trying to convince my husband and sons that it's worth the effort for one night. My daughter has NO problem being convinced to dress up! I was hoping if I could sell the guys on the fact that they could wear nice shirts/slacks, they would be fine. We also are trying to watch how much we pack into luggage, packing dress shoes would add weight.
Thanks for the input :)

earl July 15th, 2010 04:48 PM

On a 7 day cruise there are 2 formal nights.I always wear a suit and tie. I like the idea of dressing up to have dinner and go to the show after . you can go with a nice shirt and pants. A suit does not take up much place and is not heavy in your suit case.

Skipper's Mom July 15th, 2010 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rorry (Post 1303601)
I hear you :), I'm trying to convince my husband and sons that it's worth the effort for one night. My daughter has NO problem being convinced to dress up! I was hoping if I could sell the guys on the fact that they could wear nice shirts/slacks, they would be fine. We also are trying to watch how much we pack into luggage, packing dress shoes would add weight.
Thanks for the input :)

Rorry:

A suit and tie would be appropriate if a tux is not an option. Dress shoes could be worn while travelling, with a nice pair of khaki slacks. It won't kill them to dress up for 2 evenings. Otherwise, you have the option to dine in the Lido or Canneletto. I would think the Pinnacle would be a more formal venue. My husband has no problem in formal attire, in fact, I think he likes it!:D

DeeDee July 15th, 2010 07:54 PM

Rorry - may I ask how old your boys are?

Girls always like to dress up but boys for some reason don't. :rolleyes:

I couldn't believe how smart my grandson looked when he had to wear a suit for his graduation a few years ago...he actually looked like an adult LOL. He even got a hair cut. :)

Kamloops Cruiser July 15th, 2010 08:33 PM

One of the reason we cruise is for the formal nights.

rorry July 16th, 2010 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DeeDee (Post 1303642)
Rorry - may I ask how old your boys are?

Girls always like to dress up but boys for some reason don't. :rolleyes:

I couldn't believe how smart my grandson looked when he had to wear a suit for his graduation a few years ago...he actually looked like an adult LOL. He even got a hair cut. :)

My sons are 23 and 25 and they typically wear suits to weddings/funerals. :)
My daughter is 16. :-D

Mike M July 16th, 2010 10:45 AM

Pack the suits.

I'm not a "formal night guy" but on HAL the standard is at least a sport jacket, tie and slacks (suit is better) for formal night. No need to go with the tuxedo. You see less and less tuxedos on formal night.

If you're paying for the kids then tell them they that they "will" wear a suit. ;)

Take care and have a fun cruise.
Mike

DeeDee July 16th, 2010 01:57 PM

Rorry - I see you are going to Alaska. The 3 or 4 times I have been there I have found that Formal nights are less formal than say in the Caribbean. I'll leave it up to you to decide if the "boys" should wear suits. I know at that age you can't tell them what to do or wear. ;)

My granddaughter just turned 15 and she loves to dress up. :-D

Have a SUPER time and let us know how you enjoyed your cruise.

DeeDee

profln71 July 21st, 2010 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rorry (Post 1303586)
For a formal dinner night,Is it really necessary for the men to wear a suit jacket and tie or can they get by with nice pants and shirt?

Hi Rorry , I have been on several HAL cruises and I always wear a black suit & tie for the formal dinners in the dining room . However I have seen many men wearing a jacket with co-ordinated slacks & tie . It is certainly not necessary to wear a tux ! And you can always go to the Lido for dinner if you want to dress " smart casual " ( no tie ) . You will find that the Lido menu is rather similar to the one in the dining room . In any case , I'm sure you will enjoy the experience no matter which venue you choose . Lane

Peterwilsonn March 11th, 2013 07:53 AM

When you goes in the party where formal dress is necessary, then you have to wear formal dress for man jacket and with it simple pants because it is the demand of party.

Mike L March 13th, 2013 04:14 PM

After spending 15 days on the Queen Elizabeth last year (3 formal nights (TUX) and 6 semi formal nights (suit) I am leaving the formal wear at home on my March 30 sailing on the Eurodam. I will eat in the Lido on formal nights with other like minded people.

sail7seas March 18th, 2013 05:33 PM

HAL's definition of formal for gentlemen, at a minimum, is tie and jacket. (obviously they expect shirt and trousers...... one smart guy on another pointed that out when some of us referred to only tie and jacket).

The ships are inconsistent about enforcement.
We have seen men seated without the tie and we have seen men turned away without the tie.

A blazer, shirt, tie, trousers and shoes guarantees you will be seated in MDR. Easy.

For many years and a great many cruises, DH always brought his tuxedo. No more. He now wears a dark suit..... and on a rare occassion has even worn just a blazer/tie.

shycruiser June 14th, 2013 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by johnthed0g (Post 1303597)
Not being funny, but if people dont dress up on a formal night what part of the night is formal then??
PS...AND if people just wear ''pants & shirts'' on a formal night what on earth do they wear on a casual night?

i know you weren't trying to be funny but that 2nd question made me laugh. :)

but i agree with this sentiment. part of cruising with the more traditional cruise lines, at least, is well... keeping up with some traditions! and formal nights are a big part of the whole experience.

cruzzz1000 June 19th, 2013 11:14 PM

Formal Night is not just about wearing something nice. It generates a good feeling and transforming into a refined and elegant individual. It also offers the family, or couple, a chance to have professional portraits taken for FREE. You only pay for them if you really like them, later in the cruise, and it could be a memory and keepsake of your vacation.
People tend to act more sophisticated and use better manners around everyone. It does add to the bulk in a suitcase but you could always cut back on some outfits or wear mix and match to lighten the load.

Mike L July 10th, 2013 09:27 AM

Formal Nights
 
I am old school...if the line designates a formal night that request should be honored...there are other dining options for those that choose not to dress up.

Queen of Oakville July 10th, 2013 01:34 PM

Every night is formal night for us. My son just turned 6 and the first request for his birthday gift was a new 3 piece suit (because he had outgrown the one he got for his 5th birthday). He's only 6 and it won't last forever, so I'm enjoying it while I can. It's amazing to me that a such a young age he has a concept of dress codes. Even if we are at home and just going out for dinner, he'll enquire about the dress code before he goes to get dressed.

suse July 26th, 2013 08:39 PM

Well, my old man drug out the farmer's jeans with the suspenders, and the wife beater tshirt and the ole cow dung boots. Me? For the night, I drug out the clean undies from the line and an ole burlap sack I done made and called it a day. Put some newspaper in my shoes that was stretched out and we went dancing. That's it from my corner of the world.;)

edrosado1 August 20th, 2013 11:35 AM

A formal night, is just that, a night set aside for you to wear that which has been published in the cruise line regulation which requires ladies to wear a particular set standard and gentlemen set standard as Formal wear. Some cruise lines have semi-formal and casual standards set up during the week. If you decide to bend the rules then we might as well throw the book overboard! " Remember the saying, Let them eat cake".

medontelord September 23rd, 2014 12:53 PM

Nieuw Amsterdam - 14 day
 
Does anyone know for sure on the Nieuw Amsterdam when they run their 14-day cruise (which is really two 7-day cruises) do they have 4 formal nights?


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