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Old August 30th, 2006, 08:47 PM
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Hello Everyone,
Someone from another board who very recently travelled with NCL has stated that people's checked bags were x-rayed at embarkation and those bags that showed a bottle or fluid container of any kind were sent to the library of the ship. The staterooms were notified and the occupants had to go the library to identify their bags. Following I.D they had to open their bags and the booze was confiscated (or held until the cruise termination).
This is the first time after 9 cruises I have come across this.
How dare NCL charge such outrageously high prices for ship's drinks whilst denying a passenger his right to bring onto the ship his own booze. Now don't get me wrong. The cruise lines want to sell booze and to bring onto the ship a week's supply is a no no. But a measly bottle of wine to be confiscated-that's too much. Hand luggage inspection O.K. but checked bags? What's next-Chages for toiletries in your bathroom?
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calm down for heavens sake: yes, this is true and why shouldn't they do this? The policy says: no alcohal can be brought on board, you think breakting rules is ok? RCI and Celebrity has just inplemented the same policy; in fact they have suggested not allowing those who smuggle booze be allowed to sail. Will they go that far? I wouldn't think so, but they could. WE were busted on Celebrity about 3 years ago, trying to bring bottles on; we had to surrender the bottles and claim them at the end of the cruise. You can bring wine on, just not hard liquor. RCI and Celebrity will not allow even wine anymore and Carnival has talked about forbidding soft drinks.

As for the cost of drinks, none of us like the prices all the lines are charging, but they aren't any higher or even as high as a drink in any major city. We were about to order wine in Marin County Calif a couple of years ago; $13 per glass, we suddenly realized we could be just as happy with water.

You can order a bar set up for your cabin prior to embarkation. We have started doing that. It is much less expensive than buyting drinks at the bar and gives you a chance to have a little nip right in your room.

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Hello NMnita,
Thank you for your reply. Frankly I think you have been brainwashed by the cruise lines into agreeing with them to implement and change any rules that will bring in the extra dollar.Don't get me wrong here. I agree with not bringing on board a week's supply of booze . It is the unfair prices NCL charge for bar and dining room drinks. I feel Carnival has fair prices compared to most cruise lines but basically it is the principle of this matter of x-raying checked bags. For sure I will be following other cruise lines policies. Thank you again for your reply and i trust you don't take offence to anything I have said.
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Hello NMnita,
Thank you for your reply. Frankly I think you have been brainwashed by the cruise lines into agreeing with them to implement and change any rules that will bring in the extra dollar.Don't get me wrong here. I agree with not bringing on board a week's supply of booze . It is the unfair prices NCL charge for bar and dining room drinks. I feel Carnival has fair prices compared to most cruise lines but basically it is the principle of this matter of x-raying checked bags. For sure I will be following other cruise lines policies. Thank you again for your reply and i trust you don't take offence to anything I have said.
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And James, you are missing mine: i am not saying I like the prices, nor am I saying I would never try and smuggle a little on to have in my cabin (by the way I have pretty much stopped that, but did unitl recently) waht I am saying, NCL and other lines have all impimented this policy. That is why we do the bar set up prior to embarkation. Princess does not allow that anymore by the way though their drink prices are a little lower.

I am sure those of us who would like to bring a little on to enjoy in our cabins are the biggest drinkers and would still support the bar, anyone who drinks just 1 drink a day could care less, the culprets are those who would bring the entire bar on board. For that reason cruise lines have changed their policy, or that is how I see it.

As I have not cruised Carnival in quite awhile and I rarely sell the product I have no idea what prices they are now charging.

I do understand where you are coming from, and yet I realize the prices on the ship are no different than in hotels in most metropolitan areas or most hotels. The difference, most of us don't drink at these places as much as we do on ships.

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On my second cruise (in 1996) we were sailing Commodore and saw liquor confiscated. One year later we were aboard RCI and saw the same thing. Even then Princess and NCL also clearly stated in their literature that it was not permissable to bring liquor onboard. Do I like it? No, but that's the way it is. Booze smuggling is just like dress codes - it's the rules! If you don't like it, maybe you should re-evaluate your vacation choice.
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On my second cruise (in 1996) we were sailing Commodore and saw liquor confiscated. One year later we were aboard RCI and saw the same thing. Even then Princess and NCL also clearly stated in their literature that it was not permissable to bring liquor onboard. Do I like it? No, but that's the way it is. Booze smuggling is just like dress codes - it's the rules! If you don't like it, maybe you should re-evaluate your vacation choice.
Oh Magnolia, I miss commodore; how bout you? We always had so much fun, interacting with the crew, the food was as good as any line we have cruised and the ports were about the same. Ok, the ships left a lot to be desired, but I still miss them.

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Old August 31st, 2006, 11:33 AM
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When you purchase a cruise you basically agree to honor the policies and rules of the cruise line. Those rules state that you are prohibited from bringing alcohol on board, and if you elect to bring your own wine then you are obliged to pay a corkage fee. No passenger has the right to bring his own booze onto the ship, this seems to be a misconception on the part of many.
You are welcome to try to smuggle on board but the cruise line is fully with in its rights to confiscate the liquor or charge a corkage fee for wine that is smuggled or carried on.
While I realise that most folks are responsible and try not to over indulge in alcohol to the point of being a nuisance, but I wonder how many of the "drunken trouble makers" are paying the ship's prices for their cocktails or have cheap access to a plentiful supply of smuggled booze and therefore are more likely to drink excessively and create issues for the rest of us on board and present a safety hazard for themselves and everyone else on board.
I see this policy may serve a multitude of purposes, forcing people to pay ship's prices for their drinks, may result in them drinking less which may have the effect of allowing everyone to enjoy their cruise without having to babysit or tolerate those who cannot hold their liquor and be a little safer without as many drunken sailors running amock. It also allows the cruiseline to make a substantial profit margin on a non-essential element of the cruise experience. Therefore keeping the cost lower for all of us than if cruisers were permitted to B.Y.O.B.
If you simply want a "measly bottle of wine or two" you may bring that aboard any cruise line that I am aware of, with the payment of a corkage fee. While NCL may have higher prices on mixed drinks, I found their wine prices to be very reasonable, especially when you take advantage of some of their packages. We cruised on the Spirit in March and had wine with dinner every night and we spent less than $110 for wine on our 7 day cruise. We felt the wine prices were reasonable enough that there was no need to risk bringing our own. They had a nice selection and stored any unfinished bottles so we could enjoy them the next evening at any of their restaurants. I am not a huge fan of NCL with regard to several issues, but honestly have few complaints about their alcohol policies.
I think that one really needs to look at how important alcohol is to their cruising experience. I find that moderation is the key on land and sea. I want to remember my cruise and wake up without a hangover so I don't miss out on anything.
I would like to applaud NCL for Xraying all luggage, carry-on and checked baggage. In this day and age it gives me peace of mind to know that it has been thoroughly screened. I guess if they can detect vodka in a mouthwash bottle they could also detect something more dangerous being brought on board. Good for them!
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Hello NMnita,
Thank you for your reply. Frankly I think you have been brainwashed by the cruise lines into agreeing with them to implement and change any rules that will bring in the extra dollar.Don't get me wrong here. I agree with not bringing on board a week's supply of booze . It is the unfair prices NCL charge for bar and dining room drinks. I feel Carnival has fair prices compared to most cruise lines but basically it is the principle of this matter of x-raying checked bags. For sure I will be following other cruise lines policies. Thank you again for your reply and i trust you don't take offence to anything I have said.
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Hi again,

I know it sounds like I am defending NCL and I probably am, but I just got off the Carnival board: drink prices: Dof the Day, $8.50; beer $4.25 and wine starting at about $20 per bottle. I guess it has been a little while since you have cruised them. Again, I know how you feel: our shock when we got on the Jewel last Sept was unbeleivable as was everyone elses. They had just raised their prices. Then we did Celebrity last Dec, same thing: $9.50 for a glass of wine (including gratuity) I have cliants that just returned from RCI, same story; they are still in shock. You can't get around this, no line is allowing smuggling anymore (yes, it may work, but don't be surprised if you are asked to report to the naughty room) and I can bet bringing soft drinks on board is the next thing to go. As I mentioned earlier, Carnival has toyed with the idea.

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You know the rules, you know the policies. If you are going to whine about bringing booze on a ship - do us a favor & don't cruise. You know its going to be expensive - get over it.

You want to drink? Go on an all-inclusive trip someplace.

I'd rather them confiscate the bottles than have some psycho Al Queida terrorist come aboard with a bunch of his cronies & blow up & sink a ship. Use your head - this ISN'T about you - its about the safety of over 2,000+ passengers!!!!! If you had witnessed Ground Zero like I did (my office building was in front of the Towers), you'd have an entirely different attitude. When you see dead bodies & watch people jump out of windows & see them smash into the ground causing a 10 foot wide perimeter of a blood bath, you'd have a different attitude. Anything the cruise lines to protect people now is fine with me & I don't care who gets mad over their policies. Don't kid yourself, the next target once they get over their obsession with the planes are the cruise lines.

The cruise lines are smart - they don't announce their policies to the media & their security loopholes on the TV, radio, newspapers, etc. They keep their mouths shut. How do you think the terrorists thought up the idea to do the liquid thing about a plane? Because the freaking media leaks everything!
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Can you bring your own booze to a sports stadium or a concert? The policy is clearly stated before you book. One of the good things about cruising now is that even though mroe things are extra, prices have gone down and the passenger can buy what they wish instead. The drink prices are the same or less as most major cities.
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I'd rather them confiscate the bottles than have some psycho Al Queida terrorist come aboard with a bunch of his cronies & blow up & sink a ship. Use your head - this ISN'T about you - its about the safety of over 2,000+ passengers!!!!!!
... What are the "terrorist going to do? Throw booze on everyone and light it? This is booze not a bag full of AK 47s.

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If you had witnessed Ground Zero like I did (my office building was in front of the Towers), you'd have an entirely different attitude. When you see dead bodies & watch people jump out of windows & see them smash into the ground causing a 10 foot wide perimeter of a blood bath, you'd have a different attitude. !
I had a better "view" than you. I was in WTC 1 on the 44th floor. So tell me about it.
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Amen irish shark....I too will attempt to smuggle a bottle of my choise onto the Dawn. Only because myself and my gf are poor college students and are trying to save a little here and a little there. Rules are rules and we all know that rules are meant to be broken. I have a family friend who works for NCL and he said that I should have no problem bringing a bottle on board with me as long as I take care of the crewmember checking the bags. You know what I'm saying. Now don't get me wrong, we're not going to be drinking our cruise away...but a drink here and there in the confines of our room doesn't hurt anyone. Cassandra seems like she is the type of person who would tell the teacher that you're passing notes in class....lol To compare booze smuggling to 911 is just an insult to everyone who lost loved ones in that horrible tragedy.
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Im curious. I live in the chicago area and we have the cheapest booze prices in the country . What does a bottle of , lets say ABSOLUTE vodka go for in other parts of the US ? I'M guessing around $30.?? So if NCL is charging $40-$45 AND its in your room when you get there , Whats the point? It cant be the $15. difference can it ? And for the record Im a huge Wild turkey fan ( thats bourbon ) . Ive smugled onto every cruise .
But know with all this checking and hoping you dont get caught , it just isnt worth the $15....OH and as many bottles as you like ..
Maybe we should keep this our little seceret. Or you no what they will be getting rid of next .....OK Im done ....

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NMNita:

Can you bring water and/or soda? I've never tried but I've heard you can. Please advise. And thanks!
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yes, you can bring all the water and soda you want to on the ship. We are not soda drinkers but we do like to carry around a bottle of water. The ship water is just fine to drink: quite good actually so we just bring on, maybe 4-6 bottles of water and keep refilling them in the cabin. This way we do have it by the pool, the casino, on tours etc, but we don't have to pay a month's salary for a bottle nor do we have to lug a case on. NMNita
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I also tend to agree with the poster that this is a way of limiting alcohol consumption among passengers. Nothing is worse then a bunch of drunks ruining the vacation. Also there is the issue of underage kids bringing tehir own liquor on board. Plus you get to port on most cruises in a day or two anyway, where there are oceans of cheap booze.
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I believe Steve has a point. Sure, the number one reason may be to sell more booze, but it also will control to some degree how much passengers drink and who drings. I can assure you, we drink less since we no longer bring it on board. We will order 1 bottle for the cabin, maybe bring on a couple of bottles of wine but order from the bar a drink or so a day. One before dinner and a glass or bottle of wine with dinner. That's pretty much it. I think I have ordered once or twice while gambling. At $6.00 to $9.00 per drink including tip I has to think a long time about how much I want that drink. NMNita :o
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I think it sucks! BUT, then again, I still think it sucks!

You be da buyer of their rules!

Ain't no way to go that I've been able to find.

I think it REALLY sucks that they confiscate rum (or other) purchases from Caribbean port!

Good luck with your pantleg flask!
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I for one will never sail on NCL because of these heavy handed stories.

When I stay in a Hotel no one stops me from bringing a bottle or whatever into my room. At a hotel you can go and drink and eat anywhere you want and are not confined to the hotel. When your on a cruise you are a completely captive audience and at the mercy of them and their prices.

This is completely about revenue enhancment and nothing else. Ive yet to hear any other theory that will hold water. Years ago they never cared. Now they are squeezing every last pennie out of you.

When the day comes where I can no longer bring on my own and enjoy it at my leisure in my cabin I will take my money else where.

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I for one will never sail on NCL because of these heavy handed stories.

When I stay in a Hotel no one stops me from bringing a bottle or whatever into my room. At a hotel you can go and drink and eat anywhere you want and are not confined to the hotel. When your on a cruise you are a completely captive audience and at the mercy of them and their prices.

This is completely about revenue enhancment and nothing else. Ive yet to hear any other theory that will hold water. Years ago they never cared. Now they are squeezing every last pennie out of you.

When the day comes where I can no longer bring on my own and enjoy it at my leisure in my cabin I will take my money else where.

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then you better start thinking of where you would like to go next that isn't on many cruise lines. RCI just starting enforcing the no alcohal being allowed unless purchased from their own bars (wine also apparently) and yes, they will bust you. Of course some will get away with it, but sooner or later all the lines will have the same policies. No one is jumping with joy over this, but we are learning to live with it. If you reason is, you don't want to spend the money say so, if it is you want to have a drink in your cabin, buy the bar set up package prior to sailing and have it in your cabin when you board the ship. Oh, Princess won't even allow this anymore. NMnita :o
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What does a bottle of , lets say ABSOLUTE vodka go for in other parts of the US ? I'M guessing around $30.??
1.75 liter $26 in LV on sale.
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